This is exactly why I tend to veer away from any pro-life/pro-choice website. They are not usually based on factual statistics. Yes, there are some women out there who would have another abortion in a heartbeat if they were to get pregnant, but most of those women are women who never intend to get pregnant or are on birth control, or they are women who cannot be on birth control and do not want a hysterectomy or tubal ligation, both of which CAN alter your reproductive system (I have had a tubal and since then, my periods are heavier, more painful, and they have become irregular. This is part of a real syndrome, rare but still occurring, called Post-Tubal Ligation Syndrome), or have too many mouths to feed at home already. Yes, there are extremists out there, but there are not PLENTY. Abortion is a very personal decision, so for you to say there are PLENTY of women (which, to me implies that there are just as many of these women who go out, get knocked up just to abort as there are pro-lifers picketing abortion clinics)who would do it again in a heartbeat would be something that cannot be proven. Because abortion is a personal, private decision, we can only get a small percentage of reasons, etc. No woman has to share her story. Therefore, we are only seeing a small percentage of women telling their stories to the public, therefore we do not actually know how many really WILL abort in a heartbeat, etc. Plus, because most stories are shared via the internet, there is no close, personal interaction, and for all I know, or you know, it could be some crazy nutjob posting untrue stories, etc, all for attention or whatever other reason. Trolls do exist, which is another reason why I tend to disregard any story of a woman supposedly getting pregnant just to abort. I'm sure women out there exist, but I do not think that very many of them do, and if a story like that is on the internet, then unless it is from a reputable news source or an unbiased website, then I tend to disregard such stories. I am not saying radical pro-choicers don't exist. But stories shared via the internet are not reliable in providing statistics. Especially when you go so far as to say that many women would have another abortion in a heartbeat or many women get pregnant just to abort. Unless you know the entire reason a woman would abort again in a heartbeat and you PROVIDE their reason, then you are not providing the entire story and that actually taints the truth. Because the majority of women out there who would abort in a heartbeat are women who cannot be on birth control, women who ARE on birth control and do not want any(more) children, women who cannot have children for various medical reasons (and most of these women use birth control as insurance that they do not have any children), women who DO NOT or CANNOT have tubal ligations or hysterectomies (and, yes, there are VALID medical reasons why some women cannot have either procedure done, such as reproductive malformations, allergies to general anesthesia, allergies to local anesthetics, etc) or who have been advised by their doctors that they are too young, don't have children yet, etc, and are not eligible for such procedures, etc. There are probably women out there who do abort because they are too lazy to get on birth control, etc, but I am pretty sure that the majority of women who are relieved to have the option of abortion available, who have had abortions and would do it again in a heartbeat are women with one of the conditions/scenarios I provided.

How do you know this? What makes you so sure that there aren't many radical pro choicers or just as many radical prochoicers as there are radical pro-lifers?

Because abortion is so private what makes you so sure you knwo why or what the circumstances are concerning her getting an abortion? Many women are not going to be truthful about why because they'd rather give a sympathetic answer over one where people may respect it but not sympathize or agree with the reasoning behind it. You never can tell.

I NEVER said that there WEREN'T any radical pro-choicers. I actually STATED that, if you had bothered to read. And I could turn your question "what makes you so sure you knwo why or what the circumstances are concerning her getting an abortion?" and ask you the SAME thing. You stated that MANY women out there have abortions for the sake of having abortions and would do it again in a heartbeat. How do you KNOW that they are not lying? To garner ATTENTION? It's a two way street.

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Again you lie to make your point. Where did I say MANY women would abort again in a heartbeat just to abort? I said there are women on pro-choice websites who said they would do it again in a heartbeat, hell there are women on THIS website who have said they would get an abortion in a heartbeat and one said she "only use one form of BC" and if she get pregnant? abort. No question, no considering. This isn't uncommon, this is actually the norm, most women are NOT using a contraceptive that would protect them from STDs and pregnancy, they are using a form of BC that only protects from pregnancy and when it fails, abort ASAP. No gripe with that, its their fetus not mine-their body not mine. But why does the reality that the vast majority of abortions are social pure and simple have to be blurred?

No woman who doesn't have a mental illness would get pregnant JUST TO ABORT. Being pregnant is full of vomiting and exhaustion. No one vomits for fun. Having an abortion is a medical procedure. No one has a medical procedure for fun.

No one? Alright here is the link to the article

http://www.nerve.com/personalessays/b/roe- vs-wade-vs-my-boyfriend-my-abortion-was-no -big-deal-except-to-the-men-in-my-life/

That is just ONE article by one very real person.

You seem to have provided a link to some other article. There is absolutely nothing in that one which suggests the author got pregnant specifically to abort. She got pregnant while using birth control, and got an abortion as quickly as possible. If you read it any other way, it suggests that you are yet another one of those people who cannot understand that RELIEF is the main thing you can feel after an abortion.

Now a question for YOU. Did you ever think that these women who "would do it again in a heartbeat" are not saying that they would abort again under different circumstances, but are reflecting upon their current circumstances and the reasons for their abortion THIS time? That if they had the chance to NOT have an abortion THIS time, that they would anyway? Not that they would have an abortion again in a heartbeat if circumstances were different, just that THIS time it was the right decision and if given the chance to decide again they would do it again. (The only exceptions to this line of thinking that I can think of are women who want to remain childless or women who simply CANNOT have children due to medical/mental illness, because of course, they would abort again in a heartbeat...but then again, MOST of these women ARE on SOME type of birth control, as you have already stated)
P.S. Don't call me a liar again please. I had to edit my post and in doing so I accidentally cut out some words, it should have said, "You stated that MANY women out there have abortions and would do it again in a heartbeat and some women apparently would have abortions just for the sake of aborting. How do you know some of them are not lying? Especially the ones that would abort just to abort. To garner ATTENTION? It's a two way street" Again, I ask you not to call me (or anyone else on here, unless they have actually tried to present lies as fact or are saying things that are untrue about anyone or anything)a liar. It is rude and unnecessary. Before you accuse someone of lying, please consider that some of us type faster than our brains can process the words, therefore things may get jumbled. And some people on here may have reading/writing disabilities, or cognitive impairments (I am not one of them) and would probably get frustrated and be offended if you called them a liar, especially if they knew what they meant and tried their hardest to put it into words. If, in fact, I may correct YOU, YOU were the one who skims through posts and stated that I never said there were such things as radical pro-choicers. When anyone and EVERYONE (who wishes to) can easily reference my post and see that I actually wrote that.

Um, yeah, nothing there that says she got pregnant JUST to abort. It's her story about getting pregnant while on birth control and how telling men (friends, coworkers, boyfriends, etc) can complicate things. Nowhere in that article does it say, "I got pregnant just so I could abort because it is SO fun" or anything on that line.

Actually, there are women who intentionally get pregnant, but abort when the fetus doesn't have the right gender, no matter HOW healthy the fetus or the woman is.

SO you skipped the paragraph where she recalls meeting a protester at a clinic and wishing she had her "digits" so she could call her and brag about getting pregnant and getting an abortion?

You forget where she says she was happy that she was pregnant because now she can have an abortion. And was excited about it after her initial OMG I'm pregnant reaction?

Yeah I thought you'd miss it, I'll give you a chance to re-read before I copy and paste it in here.

She used pills they didn't fail SHE failed to take some (not just a one day miss here) got pregnant and is upset her current boyfriend wears condoms with each sexual act as if he isn't allowed to keep his sperm to himself just because they're having sex.

It's called SARCASM. The author was being sarcastic, anyone could see that. And she didnt call to brag about getting pregnant and getting an abortion. She wanted to call to brag about how she didn't bond, like Teresa claimed she would, she wanted to brag about the RELIEF that her abortion brought her. Quoted from that link: Lo and behold, when I looked down at the two plus signs, there was no instant connection. The invasion in my abdomen felt more like a cruel joke than a loving creature who would paw at my breasts and call me "Mommy." Afterwards, I considered calling Teresa to brag about my angst-less procedure and the sweet aftertaste of relief. But I didn't have her digits, let alone her last name.

Also quoted from the site: Sure, I wasn't too happy about dropping an unexpected $400, and my vagina was still sore like it had been repeatedly pounded. But this was like getting a Purple Heart for a masturbation-related wrist sprain....
doesn't sound like she was too happy about abortion there, does it?

Another quote: Besides, I knew friendlier ears. I honed my improbable pregnancy and ensuing abortion into a kvetching monologue about life's little inequities — I get pregnant on birth control, while teenagers in Utah practicing the pray-to-God-and-please-come-on-my-ass method remain distinctly un-knocked-up? It's not like I broadcasted my uterine news to co-workers, distant cousins, or Facebook cronies. It was simply something that happened to me, and I shared it with my friends like I would've shared any other story. It would have felt wrong not to. My female friends laughed when I laughed, commiserated when I needed it and treated the procedure as lightheartedly as I did. That's all I wanted. To be able to define my own experience, not the other way around.

Still, after reading and rereading (4 times total, WITHOUT SKIMMING THROUGH it like some people seem to do) that "article", which is more of a personal reflection of one woman's abortion experience, and how men in her life have responded to her telling them, I have yet to find where she has said "Omg, yay, I am pregnant, now I can get an abortion"

not many women would purposely get pregnant just to have an abortion unless we were mentally unstable.

Personally if I got pregnant after knowing I was taking birth control or at least making an effort to be preventative, I would seek an abortion. If I get pregnant again, which won't happen but if that failure rate of being fixed fails, then I will seek an abortion.

I think it stronger to recognize your current sitiuation, analyse it and ask yourself if you are physically,emotionally or even finanacially capable of caring for a kid. By accepting the fact that you can or cannot parents is what makes someone strong, not parenting on its own.

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why would any person in their rightful mind want a surgical/life altering procedure for the hell of it?

I would like to meet them!

I think women who are faced with early/unexpected motherhood are put in a difficult position. On one hand, they probably aren't ready, and likely don't even want a child in a situation like this. On the other hand, they should have to take responsibility for their actions (having sex) because while we are free to make our own decisions, we don't get the option of choosing the consequences. It's not fair to the unborn baby to have its life taken away by the poor choices of its mother/father. So I would say that a woman who chooses abortion is weak, she picks the option that rids her of the responsibility of her action by killing the baby.

embarrassed40 failed to mention a third option, one that is strongest, and best for most people faced with this dilema: adoption. The baby's life is spared and can be placed in a loving, secure home with 2 parents; AND the early/unexpected mother doesn't have to raise a baby in a poor situation and also doesn't have to harbor the regret of an abortion.

My opinion is this:

Women who continue their unwanted pregnancy have the brawn, but women who abort have the brains.

Adoption is a solution to not wanting to parent. Abortion is a solution to not wanting to be pregnant.

You know that there are some (ok, plenty) of women who don't regret having an abortion right?

And plenty who do regret giving up a child for adoption.

I wonder if the regret is based on changing their minds about not wanting to parent or wishing they'd have had an abortion so the child wouldn't exist and parenting wouldn't come into play?

"Regret" is a cost-free emotion. You get to be sorry you made a particular decision, without actually considering the consequences or drawbacks of having taken a different path. From the vantage point of the present, the past looks a particular way. However, if you had not done what you had done, you would not be looking at the past from the same point.

So if your life is rosy, you can say "I wish I hadn't had the abortion/given up the baby!" and assume it would still have turned out rosy. Or if it is crap, you can say "If I hadn't had the abortion/given up the baby, my life would have been better."