Sadie, I am just curious about something. I have been interested in the way those types of pictures effect different people. If these aren't too personal, I wonder if you could answer a few questions?

1. What did you think abortion entailed before you saw those pictures, back when you would have wanted your daughter to have one?
2. what do you think abortion entails now, after you saw those pictures?
3. what is your education level?
4. if you finished college, did you take any science courses there?

Thanks!!!

im against abortion i think in many cases i dont care but if you get raped you shouldnt have an abortion give it up for adoption

Are you male or female, Bautistan? If you're male, you're allowed an opinion of course and you're very welcome in this debate. Just keep in mind that men do not have a right to control a woman's body, since men do not own women.

You know, I'm prochoice, and I'm REALLY tired of people on both sides SLAMMING single moms. I am a single mom of 2, and my kids are just fine.

Stop slamming single parents. The majority of them work their BUTTS off to take care of their kids.

Yes, I got my GED and went to college. I did take plenty of science courses but they never showed me anything about abortion. I thought that when they did an abortion that the baby didn't have a heart beat and you couldn't tell what it was. So, when I saw those pictures where the baby was cut into pieces and it showed their little hands and feet, it freaked me out. I never thought you would be able to tell what it was. I don't down anyone for their choices.. I believe each person should be able to do what they want with their bodies, but I am so glad I didn't make that choice not knowing what really happens. About my daughter, I told her over and over please listen to me and not make the same choices I did. Before, I saw those pictures... I probably would have made her get an abortion if she got pregnant before she was 18, because I wouldn't have wanted her to struggle like I had to. Now, I will let her make her own choices, but I would show her what I saw and let her take it from there. I am thankful for this forum... It has given me a change of heart about this. Thanks all

Be aware some pictures you see on the net are fake like Eiri said.. but there are ones that are real. The older the fetus gets the more you can see the hands and feet! After all they are developing human beings..

claps hand to you!!!! that is hard to do and I bet you are great mother!

Sadie, why would you automatically believe those pictures without a second thought?

Sadie.. look at birth places they will show you the size of a child developing in a non-bias picture..
here is a site that shows the developing of a embryo.. week by week. And you will see little feet at 7 weeks..

http://www.pregnancy.org
click on fetal development on the left side..

Sadie,
Please take a look at the picture in this link. Please note the tiny embryo in the upper left hand side of the picture.

LINK

This is what gets aborted in the MAJORITY of abortions. The pictures you saw were fake.

Last night I looked at alot of different websites about abortion and the different ways they do it. Don't you have to be atleast 8 weeks pregnant before they will do one? I looked at the picture of an embryo at 8 weeks and it looks like it is a human to me... That was all I needed to see to change my mind about it... I was misimformed about it before. Like I said, I thought it didn't even have a human form yet... Believe me.... What other people do is their own business and I would not tell someone that they were wrong in their choices when it come down to something like this.. but it is just not something I would want to do after the information I have read and the pics that I saw. I told my husband before I came to this forum that there would be no questions about it if my daughter got pregnant. I would take her and have one done... This morning I talked to him about it and told him I had changed my mind . He said that would be a huge mistake not to.. He said you would probably be raising it. I said, oh well. I would do what I had to do. If she didn't want to keep it, we could give it to someone that would love it... He would want nothing to do with it. I guess it would be bad around my house if something like that ever happened. Hopefully, it will never come down to that... I keep her on a tight leash...but my mom did me to and I still got around it.. I guess that is what worries me the most. Thanks for replying

Good for you.. sounds like you did some home work. I posted the pregnancy site.. It is a non- bias site and shows you stage by stage the development of a child..

If I were to go by just this one part of Cambion's entire post, I would agree with you, xphile.

However, that is taken out of context and not what she meant at all. Here is the entire quote, which I agree with:

No, in fact the majority of abortions are done by this time.

No, you are misinformed now.


Somehow I don't find you to be genuine, here. Nobody gets fooled as easily as you seem to be.

I hope you let your daughter decide for herself, before you force her to endure a pregnancy and the horror and agony of giving birth against her will.

I have a daughter, and it will be over my dead body that anybody forces that kind of torture on her.

Look at the difference between the pictures of embryos at week 5 and at week 6.

Even an amateur can see the inaccuracy. Also, they are blown up.

If you really want to see the stages of development, at their actual size, with no distortion, the preeminent and most accurate pictures and descriptions are at my LINK.

[quote="futureshock"]

Look at the difference between the pictures of embryos at week 5 and at week 6.

Even an amateur can see the inaccuracy. Also, they are blown up.

If you really want to see the stages of development, at their actual size, with no distortion, the preeminent and most accurate pictures and descriptions are at my LINK.[/quot

I don't think www.pregnancy.org pictures would be fake.. I can't see where it says the weeks of the site you show.,.

There are at least two foetal development guides on pregnancy.org, and they can't seem to agree on when certain things happen. Reliable!

Ok... i have my human growth and developement book right in front of me... I am looking at it right now..... at 6 and 7 weeks... they have a human shape... not fully developed yet.... but you can see what it is... are you saying this book is misinforming me to? It has fetal stages...... also pulled out the Human A&P book..... I am looking at it.... it says in weeks 5 through 7 the embroyonic body and face develop a more human like appearance.... I am looking at pictures...... I am not easily fooled....... that is your opinion.. I was just looking for the facts.... it is what i found. These books do not talk about abortion.... so I was saying I was misinformed about the way they did it... how many weeks they were when they did it... and if it already had a heart beat at the time of it.... I was told that you had to be atleast 8 weeks before they would give an abortion...to make sure they got all of it out..... Im not saying that is fact.... just what I was told. Again..... it will be my daughters choice... but I will let her see the site and read many books on it before she makes a dicision... She will not be mislead like I was..... That is all I am saying... She will be the one who would have to live with her dicision... not me.

well if if happend there it probably happend on other sites to don't ya think? I guess the bottom line is nobody know what it looks like.. they are all just guessing..

It doesn't matter what it looks like, people are aware of what a z/e/f looks like at various stages of development


Whoever told you this was wrong (and there is never a guarentee they will "get all of it" regardless of gestation, although incomplete abortions are not common)