I think women who abort are stronger. I feel it takes a lot sometimes to stand in the face of retarded protesting pro-lifers, to do something their families, friends and partners may object to, and to think more about whether or not they can afford or properly support the child even if it is very wanted and realize, in some cases, that they cannot afford a baby at that time or are just plain not ready for one. Some women can abort without a second thought, but for others it's an agonizing decision.

Women who keep unplanned babies when they know they can't afford them or can't care for them properly or find people to help care for them properly are just plain stupid and I pity no one in that type of situation but the child. Some women tend to think that babies make everything perfect, fix broken relationships/marriages, that God will provide for them and that everything will overall be okay. These are usually the children who grow up in poverty or with only one parent or in the system.

I don't think you can say either one is stronger, it all depends on the situation of the expecting mother/couple.

I agree with Cambion on this one. Women who make their choice out of knowlege and intellect are stronger then a woman who allows herself to be bullied by pro-fetal-life thugs or doesn't have enough spine to stand up to the world and do it her own way.
Each woman has a choice in what goes on in her own body and whether she will allow it to happen; to let others take that choice away isn't being strong; its showing she can be controlled.

most women who get abortions do know themselves really well and i think are more honest with themselves because they know what they can and cannot do. I agree with Cambion, most of the kids that grow up to be poor and most likely will be a delinquent/ end up in jail when they grow older are the ones mostly raised by those women who decided to keep their kids and just throw everything to God and hpe everything will be ok. im not saying this happens to all of them, but it happens too often. im also not saying that everyone should just go on aborting. i think the stronger woman is the one who knows the consequence of either choices, chooses a path on her own, and goes with it because she knows its the best for her and her future

[quote="Cambion"]I think women who abort are stronger. I feel it takes a lot sometimes to stand in the face of retarded protesting pro-lifers,
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Please watch your language "Retarded" is both an inappropriate & insensitive word to use, it also shows a lack of intellect.
Thank you for your consideration.

Ok genuine question here: 'retarded' is a word that just isn't used in the UK, it's considered offensive. Other UK girls feel free to correct me but it's just not a word that is used commonly. However, I notice a lot of US people use it and it doesn't cause a stir so I never know whether it should be edited or not.

Is 'retarded' considered offensive in the US?

From a U.S. perspecitive it is descriptive; a word meaning someone deliberately is not getting the idea; stunted maybe is better.
I think its legitimate. She is pointing out that the protesters are deliberately ignoring facts to protest. I am not sure why Embarrassed is taking this personally since she was not calling him retarded.

"Retarded" is not as offensive in the US, it really isn't. Some politically correct people get offended by it, but in a strange twist, I'd personally be more offended to be called an idiot or stupid than retarded. It's used in almost a humerous sense. "Don't be retarded" and "don't be ridiculous" are pretty close in tone and meaning. If you're calling someone retarded, you don't necessarily mean it. You call them an idiot though, and you mean it. "Stupid" is a fairly light word too, along with "dumb". Heck, I invented a word with some friends for describing really crazy/dumb situations: retardicated.

As for the original topic:

I really think it depends on the situation, but "strong" versus "stupid" comes to mind in a lot of these situations.

I think any woman who makes her own decision despite what others are forcing her to do is "strong". However, her decision may not be the smartest choice. If you have no home, no income and no spouse, yes it may be "strong" to keep an unwanted pregnancy but it's really not smart.

I also think it is strong of a woman to abort despite the pressures of people around her. I'm trying to think of when this could be a stupid decision... Well, if she was say, 8 months along I'd consider that a pretty stupid decision but that's a little subjective so it doesn't really work.

I think a "weak" abortion would be a woman who aborts because the child is the wrong gender or something like that. O.o

I think it is simply an inappropriate & insensitive word to use. Similiar to calling gay folks "people". It has no place in this debate. Thank you for the interest and inquiry.

I find the usage of the word "retarded" shows a lack of understanding for the etiology of the word, except for those who use it in reference to prolifers because their development is delayed and thus, 'retarded'.

In all seriousness, I go out of my way to prohibit this word from being used to insult someone in my presence.

As for the original post, what is "stronger" exactly? What does that mean? How can you say that one decision makes a person stronger or weaker?

I think a person who faces challenges and overcomes them to be a better person is a strong person. I don't think that a decision about abortion/gestating makes or breaks it.

okay but this same scenario applies to women who have children. its hard to face the world when they think you arent ready or prepared for it
its hard to make either the decition to abort or go through with it

i agree with terra on this
neither is stronger than another

I say if you took a random sample of 100 ladies who have had frivolous abortions and compare them to 100 ladies who chose to give birth, I think the ladies that have given birth would be stonger people, on the whole!

I tend to disagree. I believe it is not the easy and good things in life that make us stronger.....but the difficult ones. Abortion is not an easy decision....and often the repercussions of that choice are life long. My belief would be that out of those 100 who chose abortion....about 25% would never admit to feeling anything but relief and would do it again in a heartbeat, 25% would be angry at themselves for doing it and never do it again but still hold on to their prochoice stance, 25% would both never do it again and feel a greater understanding for why pl think the way they do, and finally.....25% would realize that abortion can't be taken back, that it was neither the right choice for them or their unborn fetus and thus change from being pc to pl and fight like crazy the rest of their lives to respect and protect all human life from conception to natural death. Now "that" is real strength.

Trina, what about women who have done both: had abortions, AND have given birth?

What about them? As I took it....the comparison was the strength of women who had had abortions vs. women who had given birth. If you are asking what level of strength I think these women who have had an abortion and then give birth are....I would say extra-ordinary. I mean having an abortion and knowing the outcome of the human life inside you would be very difficult to say the least. Then....giving birth to a child after that and falling in love with that child the moment you see him/her....that would be life changing. You would indeed have to become very strong because the child you gave birth to would always be a reminder of the child you didn't. That would take a strenghth I don't think I have.

I think it is perfectly legitimate particularly in view of the fact you posted a direct insult to all pro-choice posters. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Either an implied lack of intelligence bothers you or not.
Please remove your highly offensive post directly calling pro-choicers dumber the rubber dolls.

You didn't explain what stronger means to you.

What is your intent here?

Birch, you have labeled me a troll on numorous occassions. Normally I would decline to answer your question since you have been so impolite to me BUT I will give you this one-time courtesy since you seem like a nice old bird. I feel that women who have decided to bear their child are more willing to SACRIFICE and I think that makes them STRONGER people on the whole than the females who have chosen to frivolously abort.

I think it goes without saying that in a marriage partner, being willing to sacrifice is a critical element. Therefore ladies who are willing to partake in frivolous abortions are not good marriage material.

Thank you for your interest.