Mri Results - What Can I Expect? Posted: 10-06-07 13:37pm
Sorry for asking so many questions but I
would appreciate input on one more. MRI
says I don't havae either articular disc
and this was caused from trauma. I guess
when my jaw locked - one side and then the
other--this was the trauma? Anyway, the
doctor said that I had
degenerativearthritis caused by the trauma
and now there is nothing that can be done.
Is this pretty much right, do you think?
Thank you .
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catswold
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Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 404 Location: Flint, Michigan
Posted: 10-07-07 16:19pm
Becky,
There are never too many questions you can
ask about TMJ. I'm personally not
impressed with your doctor's advice to you
and that's why I'm going to suggest that
you see another (or even more) TMJ
"Specialists" for their opinion(s). I've
had so many different opinions over the
past 28 years that it could make your head
spin. I also highly recommend that you do
as much research as you can on your own
with the Internet, asking questions at TMJ
support sites (like here) and there are a
few good books out on the market. Go to
Amazon.com and type in TMJ and see what
you get.
You asked me in another post about DJD.
I'm slow at answering for a variety of
reasons but mainly, I looked some stuff up
and then I'm just slow at typing right
now. Poor excuse, I know. Sorry.
Anyway, DJD (degenerative joint disease)
is just another way of saying I have
arthritis. There are different forms of
arthritis. Did the doc tell you what kind
of arthritis? The most common form is
osteoarthritis (OA) or DJD and it usually
occurs following “trauma” to a joint,
then infection/inflammation, or, simple
wear and tear, the dreaded aging process,
or even genetics. There is also an idea
that abnormal anatomy may contribute to
early development OA/DJD. The
“trauma” can be as stupid as a dentist
keeping your mouth open too long and too
wide, or as silly as yawning too big or
chewing gum non-stop.
When the meniscus or disc (made up of a
“super” type of cartilage) is
displaced, damaged or destroyed, we have
the nightmare of TMJ. The disc is
necessary for cushioning between bones and
provides stable movement of the jaw. If
the smooth cartilage (disc) between the
bones becomes rough from wear and tear, is
stretched too thinly or is displaced, it
causes friction to occur, which can lead
to joint pain. The condyle (bone) can also
be worn down or bone spurs can form.
This is a very simple, basic “lesson”
on arthritis/DJD/OA. Rheumatoid arthritis
is a whole other disease just about that I
know almost nothing about, so I wouldn’t
be able to advise anything except to see a
rheumatologist, but I would be surprised
if it is RA.
Now, I do disagree that "nothing" can be
done and that is why you should see other
specialists. You might not ever be
"cured" but there is such a thing as
managing or taking care of a physical
problem when we develop one. For example,
take diabetes. It's not curable, but you
also don't do "nothing" about it. I
sometimes get angry at TMJ docs who think
that because they can't permanently "fix"
the problem, they can just throw their
hands up in the air and say they can't do
anything. Meanwhile, we patients are
suffering. You might have to learn how to
best treat your various symptoms yourself
with hopefully the help of others, such as
your primary doctor, and/or a pain
management doctor, and/or physical
therapist, and/or bite splint maker, etc.
You also might NOT have arthritis.
That’s why you need to see other TMJ
specialists. Seek out Functional Joint
Orthotic dentists and Neuromuscular
dentists or just a simple dentist who
makes very good bite splints and is
usually quite knowledgeable. You do need
to try and get your family physician on
board to help with referral to PT or write
prescriptions for various medications like
narcotics, muscle relaxants, anti-d's,
etc. There is a wide range of
"treatments" that can help manage TMJ.
But first please get another opinion. I
hope you find the help you need. And
sorry for the length and lateness.
God bless...
Carol
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 10-07-07 16:21pm
remember that an mri is only 20% accurate.
did you have any accidents? i dont think
that simply locking would do that much
damage.
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Becky50
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Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 8
Thank You Both Posted: 10-08-07 10:54am
I want to thank you both for your replies.
I have made (after breaking) an
appointment with another tmj oral surgeon.
I also made another appointment with the
one who said nothing canbe done. He
should have told me a lot of things after
the MRI--he didn't.
The MRI said the arthritis was caused by
trauma--
I cannot believe this "TMJ world". I am
just now finding out things that many of
you have been going through for years. It
all started when my regular dentist said I
was stressed out over the death of my
horse and that things would be ok after a
period of time--what hogwash. I told him
how scared I was but he wanted to save me
the expense of an MRI--oh, well, I am sure
if you have dealt with this for a long
time, you have heard it all.
I fully intend to follow your advice. I
am certainly not going to listen to
someone who says "nothing can be done" and
gives me absolutely no direction.
I have read every post on these forums and
appreciate so much your replies.
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 10-08-07 13:26pm
oh i say bull honkey to the doctor that
said nothing can be done. that is a lot of
well you said it HOGWASH! Oh gee im having
a bad day and now im really ticked off.
pm me I think i can
help.
Im glad that you find this place helpful.
thats what we are here for to help --just
pm or email me at anytime.
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messicamouse
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Joined: 12 Sep 2007 Posts: 18
Re: Thank You Both Posted: 10-11-07 11:10am
Becky50
wrote:
I cannot believe this "TMJ world". I am
just now finding out things that many of
you have been going through for years.
I agree with you there.
It was like... here I am going through
life with no problems and then suddenly...
WHACKKKKKK!
I feel awful, but greatful that I am new
to this because so many people have been
suffering for years... It has only been
about a month for me.
As for MRI results, I got mine today:
Anterior dislocation of the disc without
reduction on the right side and anterior
subluxation of the disc with reduction on
the left side.
Don't really know what that all means,
except that "she can't open her mouth the
way she should"!