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Q: Views Expressed On This Board Back Up Recent Study

asked by: Verizon-y on October 2nd, 2007

Extremely eHealthy

It is interesting that right here on this board one can find evidence backing the findings of the study done on the differences in brain functions of liberals and conservatives.

For example, time after time, conservatives/pro-lifers on this board are shown evidence illustrating why their position is wrong. Time after time they disregard the evidence in favor of persisting in their incorrect beliefs.

This is exactly what the study showed!

"Across dozens of behavioral studies, conservatives
have been found to be more structured and persistent in their
judgments and approaches to decision-making, as indicated by higher
average scores on psychological measures of personal needs for order,
structure and closure1.

Liberals, by contrast, report higher tolerance of
ambiguity and complexity, and greater openness to new experiences on
psychological measures."

"This association suggests that a more conservative orientation is related
to greater persistence in a habitual response pattern, "
i.e. they will continue to believe their ingrained, incorrect view...

"despite signals that
this response pattern should change"

i.e. despite being shown evidence which clearly shows their view is incorrect.

futureshock wrote:

But I do have a question for you:

Why do you persist in believing homosexuality is a choice, after all you've learned and experienced first hand about it?

nightangel wrote:

Like the other poster actually said correctly homosexuality is unexplained disorder. Your choice lies in how you act on it. You are the one who make the choice of having the sex with either gender. You decide whether you go have heterosuxal sex or you go have homosexual sex. So it's a CHOICE.

jincks wrote:

Your facts are a bit outdated there Nightangel.. the actual facts on the disorder arguement:

Originally thought by the American Psychological Association (hereafter referred to as APA) to be a mental disorder, research into its causes, origins, and development have consequently led to its removal by the APA from its list of diagnoses and disorders

Karen Hooker executed the first psychological test done to test for biological determinism in 1957, on a grant from the National Institute of Mental Health [2]. The study was meant to explore the relationship between homosexuality and psychological development and illness. Hooker studied both homosexuals and heterosexuals. Both groups were matched for age, intelligence quotient (IQ) and education level, and were then subjected to three psychological tests. These three tests, the Rorschach, Thematic Apperception Test (TAT) and the Make-A-Picture-Story Test (MAPS), were then analyzed by psychologists, and the results were tabulated. The results of Hooker's experiment yielded no significant differences in answers on any of the three tests. Because both groups' answers scored very similarly, she concluded a zero correlation between social determinism of sexuality.

As a result of Hooker's finding, the APA removed homosexuality from its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Psychological Disorders in 1973. In 1975 it then released a public statement that homosexuality was not a mental disorder. In 1994, two decades later, the APA finally stated, "...homosexuality is neither a mental illness nor a moral depravity. It is the way a portion of the population expresses human love and sexuality" [2].

No homosexuals don't decide which sex to sleep with. They frankly don't get turned on by the opposite sex. To my daughter sleeping with a man is so unappealing she thinks it is gross.

Although the APA currently states that sexual orientation is not a choice, rather that "...it emerges from most people in early adolescence with no prior sexual experience"

Please take a little while to learn the facts surrounding your agrument before you post what has long since been thrown out and disregarded.
You have a bias against homosexuals but don't let that blind you to the facts of the situation.
to assist you with gathering relevant facts of the situation I'll post for you the link to the exact study.

nightangel wrote:

jincks thanks for sharing what the phsycologists have said..I just don't agree with the psychologists.

Replies(3)

Tylanas

replied on October 2nd, 2007

Especially eHealthy

Hey NightAngel... the sky is blue you know...

"No! God says the sky is orange. I believe God, not you or some dumb scientist."

But... you can go look, it's right out--

"No! Don't try to prove it to me! As long as I don't look and see for myself, I can still believe it is orange. You should believe it is orange too!! You'll go to hell if you don't."

I... what?

Verizon-y

replied on October 2nd, 2007

Extremely eHealthy

But even if she does look and sees that it is blue, she will persist in her belief that it is orange.
That is why the conservatives in the study could not differentiate between the "M" and the "W" in the task they were doing.

Both groups were supposed to press a button every time M appeared on a screen. They were NOT supposed to press the button when W appeared. The M appeared more frequently, representing a habit or long held belief, like "The sky is orange."

The W represented new information, like, "The sky is blue."

The conservatives just pressed the button no matter what showed up, M or W. Meaning, they could not take in new information and change their behavior or belief.

They believe the sky is orange.
They are given evidence that clearly shows the sky is blue.
They persist in their belief that the sky is orange.

Jules

replied on October 3rd, 2007

Extremely eHealthy

Please continue the debate on the 'conservative/liberal mind' thread. I know the thread that these quotes come from was locked but that was only because people seemed to dislike the fact the discussion had gone off topic. I can't allow a new thread that is also completely off topic, especially when there is already a thread open dealing with the subject.

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