My 2 Yr. Old Son - Shivers And Possible Absence Posted: 03-26-04 03:04am
Hi
i'm worried about my son. We have noticed
for at least 3 months now that he
ocassionally has momentary shivering
episodes like one has when one has a
sudden chill. We mentioned it to our
pediatrician, who mentioned the
possibility of epilepsy and told us to
keep our eye on him. Recently both I and
a friend of my wife have witnessed
momentary lapses of attention in him,
where he does a stare off into space for
several seconds (i saw him do it for
around 10, my wife's friend said around
20), and now i'm worried about absence.
He had been coming off a 7 day run with a
temperature, but not a severe one. I
haven't noticed the long stare again, but
I am constantly looking for it, and second
guessing everytime he ponders life's
mysteries even for a few seconds... We
have an appt. With a neurologist, but not
for another month. Any info anyone might
have is appreciated. Thanks!
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katiedee
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Shivers Posted: 03-26-04 06:10am
I know how hard it is to wait for the
neuro appt, but i'm glad you have it.
What you really need to do is keep a diary
of events you are seeing and include the
date, time and what you saw during the
event. If you noticed staring for a few
seconds, then just put that down. You
don't have to necessarily time it, unless
it goes longer than a couple of minutes.
It would also be helpful to the neuro to
know if your son is responsive during the
episodes. If you happen to see him do
more staring or shivering, try to call his
name in your usual tone and see if he
responds. If he does not respond, then
put that down as part of the event in the
diary you're keeping. This is helpful
to the neuro as it helps to identify the
types of seizures your son may be having,
if that is what they are. Also, try to
set up a video camera to capture one of
these. I know it's hard to know when
they will happen, but if you notice your
son is on the couch watching tv and
shivering, then would be a good time to
have the video rolling - inconspicuously
of course. I was able to capture
several episodes of my son and it really
seemed to help the neuro to have not only
the video, but also the diary. I will
say that the eeg he had was very abnormal,
which correlated with the seizures we were
witnessing. Please keep me posted on
how he's doing.
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cjd60
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Thanks Posted: 03-26-04 06:27am
Thank you for your comments. We'll see if
we can get some video. I'll let you know
how the appointment goes, though it seems
like an eternity away... I hope your son
is ok.
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katiedee
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He's Okay Posted: 03-26-04 07:20am
My son is 11 and started having seizures
when he was 5. He is in the process of
being weaned off his medications, so we've
come a long way! My son also has
tourettes and at first it was difficult
for the neuro to distinguish what was a
tic and what was a jerking moving related
to the epilepsy. Over time we've come to
easily identify each. He has complex
partial seizures and his tics have changed
over the years. The thought did cross my
mind that your son could be having a tic
(shivers), but not necessarily tourettes,
which takes a year to diagnose. Either
way, just keep note of what he's doing for
the neuro. Be sure to write down your
questions before you get there because
it's so easy to forget them during the
visit. I'm sure your son will be okay.
It's just a matter of finding out what it
is and if he needs treatment. The
waiting is always the worst part!
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MickeyFan
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Posted: 03-31-04 21:06pm
Cjd60,
during my seizures I do shiver but its
more that my teeth chatter. Like i'm
freezing cold. Most people that see this
happen want to cover me with a blanket.
It usually last for few minutes.
Also, when your son is doing these
things.... Staring, shivering etc. Ask
him how he's feeling. If he has any funny
taste in his mouth. Sometimes during
seizures you get a metal taste in your
mouth.
Not only do I have seizures but my
daughter has them and keeping a log of how
you feel, and your senses,and having the
kids describe things the best as they can
really helps the doctors.
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cjd60
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Metal Taste ? Posted: 04-01-04 01:30am
Still amonth before the appt. I've gone
through days of complete obsession over
this, doing nothing at work even but
reading up. And then days of being ok,
thinking he is alright... The shivers are
so inconspicuous that people don't notice
them. We have visitors now and they are
spending significant play time with him,
but do not pick up on them. Nor does my
wife, who is choosing to be the unpanicked
one in all of this. When I read your
response though, i'm again getting
nervous. While I have noticed no new
staring episodes, and no "streaks" of the
shivering / shuddering, I have noticed the
past few days that he has been fussing
oddly with his tongue, as if something
tastes bad or it itches. He still does
not speak, so I can't get specific
answers. But when I ask him if he wants
to brush it off or rinse it, he accepts.
Perhaps the metalic taste you are
referring to. But i'm not connecting this
behavior (yet) with any identifiable
shivering or absence. Thanks for your
input!