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Re: Your Spirituality And Abortion Posted: 09-27-07 12:51pm
Jincks013
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Ok.. I am a bit tired of
being preached at on each and every
thread, I'm not xtian so stop trying to
'god' me to death, other then upsetting my
digestion you are accomplishing nothing.
However it does bring up some interesting
insights into spirituality and how it
relates to the abortion topic.
I'd like to see some of these listed
clearly, no attacks on someone's beliefs
please, just a clear definition of why
your spirituality may affect your
pro-choice, pro-life or fence riding
stance on the issue.
I'll start..
I am wiccan.
I follow my Rede which does not actually
say anything about abortion so it really
influences my position not at all. It
does say what I do is ok as long as it
harms no one else. I do not view an unborn
or recent conception as a 'person' until
the brain kicks in and it is self aware.
any others?
I am somewhat wiccan- I kind've pull from
many things. My spirituality tells me to
revere life. I don't think I would have an
abortion, I don't know that I would be
comfortable with that. However, I am in a
place in life where if I had a baby, it
would be ok.
BUT I don't believe in forcing that on
others, so I am pro-choice. And I
completeley understand that different
people have different views, and I respect
that.
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Re: Your Spirituality And Abortion Posted: 10-07-07 15:18pm
Jincks013
wrote:
Ok.. I am a bit tired of
being preached at on each and every
thread, I'm not xtian so stop trying to
'god' me to death, other then upsetting my
digestion you are accomplishing nothing.
However it does bring up some interesting
insights into spirituality and how it
relates to the abortion topic.
I'd like to see some of these listed
clearly, no attacks on someone's beliefs
please, just a clear definition of why
your spirituality may affect your
pro-choice, pro-life or fence riding
stance on the issue.
I'll start..
I am wiccan.
I follow my Rede which does not actually
say anything about abortion so it really
influences my position not at all. It
does say what I do is ok as long as it
harms no one else. I do not view an unborn
or recent conception as a 'person' until
the brain kicks in and it is self aware.
any others?
Here is my take on abortion and religion:
Abortion is not about religion...it is
about humanity. After all....if you are
able to stop one abortion you are not
saving a religion....you are saving a
human life.
And that folks...is how I feel on the
subject. Thank you for asking.
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Posted: 10-11-07 23:05pm
meblonde01
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I am Non- denomination
Christian. I believe that abortion is
wrong because I believe in God and I
don’t think God would want unborn babies
aborted. I don’t parade in front of an
abortion clinic but I will speak what I
feel about
abortion.
You don't think GOD would want that, but
would you?
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Posted: 10-12-07 07:23am
kaiteo
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
I am Non- denomination
Christian. I believe that abortion is
wrong because I believe in God and I
don’t think God would want unborn babies
aborted. I don’t parade in front of an
abortion clinic but I will speak what I
feel about
abortion.
You don't think GOD would want that, but
would you?
No, I think abortion is wrong. It is
taking a developing human being life.
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Posted: 10-12-07 07:35am
My memory may be a bit faulty but didn't
you once state you'd had an abortion
meblonde? Sort of like shooting yourself
in the foot.. it was ok for me but I don't
want you to have that option..
If I am wrong I apologize but since I am
about to head to work I can't take the
time to research the thread..
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Posted: 10-12-07 07:57am
Jincks013
wrote:
My memory may be a bit
faulty but didn't you once state you'd had
an abortion meblonde? Sort of like
shooting yourself in the foot.. it was ok
for me but I don't want you to have that
option..
If I am wrong I apologize but since I am
about to head to work I can't take the
time to research the
thread..
Yep I sure did.. It was when I was very
very young and very very STUIP. I was
easily persuaded. It was the worse thing I
ever did and I would not wish anyone to go
through it. It is the reason I never had
children. I thought/knew it was wrong when
I did it and I still do, even more so!!
Call me a hypocrite if you want to, But
people do things that that changes their
lives and this did mine. I don’t protest
outside of an abortion clinic, but I
voice my feelings and experience on
abortions. My abortion was done for a man!
I grew into a very strong woman and I am
no longer easily persuaded. And to tell
you the truth it makes me sick when I
think of it. So there you go. Now you know
why I am so against abortions!!
Now let me ask you. Have you ever done
something you would never do again or want
your child to do? That is not shooting
yourself in the foot, Is it?
I stayed in an abusive marriage for 16
years. Now I speak at women shelters and
talked about abusive marriage and how not
to stay in one. Is that shooting myself in
the foot because I stayed in one, and now
talk about how not to?
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Posted: 10-12-07 13:03pm
meblonde01
wrote:
Jincks013
wrote:
My memory may be a bit
faulty but didn't you once state you'd had
an abortion meblonde? Sort of like
shooting yourself in the foot.. it was ok
for me but I don't want you to have that
option..
If I am wrong I apologize but since I am
about to head to work I can't take the
time to research the
thread..
Yep I sure did.. It was when I was very
very young and very very STUIP. I was
easily persuaded. It was the worse thing I
ever did and I would not wish anyone to go
through it. It is the reason I never had
children. I thought/knew it was wrong when
I did it and I still do, even more so!!
Call me a hypocrite if you want to, But
people do things that that changes their
lives and this did mine. I don’t protest
outside of an abortion clinic, but I
voice my feelings and experience on
abortions. My abortion was done for a man!
I grew into a very strong woman and I am
no longer easily persuaded. And to tell
you the truth it makes me sick when I
think of it. So there you go. Now you know
why I am so against abortions!!
Now let me ask you. Have you ever done
something you would never do again or want
your child to do? That is not shooting
yourself in the foot, Is it?
I stayed in an abusive marriage for 16
years. Now I speak at women shelters and
talked about abusive marriage and how not
to stay in one. Is that shooting myself in
the foot because I stayed in one, and now
talk about how not
to?
Sorry about your experiences meblonde.
But isn't this the real point of pro
choice?? I feel sorry that you had to make
a decision against your choice- so you
regretted it. Some women do choose that
abortion in the best thing for them- and
if they were forced to make a decision
against their choice, don't you think they
might feel equal regret?
Glad to hear that your abusive experience
was channeled into something so positive-
I think that's a really great, courageous
thing for you to do.
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Posted: 10-12-07 13:33pm
Georgia59
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
Jincks013
wrote:
My memory may be a bit
faulty but didn't you once state you'd had
an abortion meblonde? Sort of like
shooting yourself in the foot.. it was ok
for me but I don't want you to have that
option..
If I am wrong I apologize but since I am
about to head to work I can't take the
time to research the
thread..
Yep I sure did.. It was when I was very
very young and very very STUIP. I was
easily persuaded. It was the worse thing I
ever did and I would not wish anyone to go
through it. It is the reason I never had
children. I thought/knew it was wrong when
I did it and I still do, even more so!!
Call me a hypocrite if you want to, But
people do things that that changes their
lives and this did mine. I don’t protest
outside of an abortion clinic, but I
voice my feelings and experience on
abortions. My abortion was done for a man!
I grew into a very strong woman and I am
no longer easily persuaded. And to tell
you the truth it makes me sick when I
think of it. So there you go. Now you know
why I am so against abortions!!
Now let me ask you. Have you ever done
something you would never do again or want
your child to do? That is not shooting
yourself in the foot, Is it?
I stayed in an abusive marriage for 16
years. Now I speak at women shelters and
talked about abusive marriage and how not
to stay in one. Is that shooting myself in
the foot because I stayed in one, and now
talk about how not
to?
Sorry about your experiences meblonde.
But isn't this the real point of pro
choice?? I feel sorry that you had to make
a decision against your choice- so you
regretted it. Some women do choose that
abortion in the best thing for them- and
if they were forced to make a decision
against their choice, don't you think they
might feel equal regret?
Glad to hear that your abusive experience
was channeled into something so positive-
I think that's a really great, courageous
thing for you to do.
You have a good point, I still feel for
the one with no choice.. and thank you!
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Posted: 10-12-07 14:49pm
meblonde01
wrote:
Yep I sure did.. It was when I was very
very young and very very STUIP. I was
easily persuaded. It was the worse thing I
ever did and I would not wish anyone to go
through it. It is the reason I never had
children. I thought/knew it was wrong when
I did it and I still do, even more so!!
Call me a hypocrite if you want to, But
people do things that that changes their
lives and this did mine. I don’t protest
outside of an abortion clinic, but I
voice my feelings and experience on
abortions. My abortion was done for a man!
I grew into a very strong woman and I am
no longer easily persuaded. And to tell
you the truth it makes me sick when I
think of it. So there you go. Now you know
why I am so against abortions!!
Now let me ask you. Have you ever done
something you would never do again or want
your child to do? That is not shooting
yourself in the foot, Is it?
I stayed in an abusive marriage for 16
years. Now I speak at women shelters and
talked about abusive marriage and how not
to stay in one. Is that shooting myself in
the foot because I stayed in one, and now
talk about how not
to?
I thought you'd never tell.
I'm sorry that the abortion you chose was
not the right choice for you.
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Posted: 10-12-07 14:50pm
Birch
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
Yep I sure did.. It was when I was very
very young and very very STUIP. I was
easily persuaded. It was the worse thing I
ever did and I would not wish anyone to go
through it. It is the reason I never had
children. I thought/knew it was wrong when
I did it and I still do, even more so!!
Call me a hypocrite if you want to, But
people do things that that changes their
lives and this did mine. I don’t protest
outside of an abortion clinic, but I
voice my feelings and experience on
abortions. My abortion was done for a man!
I grew into a very strong woman and I am
no longer easily persuaded. And to tell
you the truth it makes me sick when I
think of it. So there you go. Now you know
why I am so against abortions!!
Now let me ask you. Have you ever done
something you would never do again or want
your child to do? That is not shooting
yourself in the foot, Is it?
I stayed in an abusive marriage for 16
years. Now I speak at women shelters and
talked about abusive marriage and how not
to stay in one. Is that shooting myself in
the foot because I stayed in one, and now
talk about how not
to?
I thought you'd never tell.
I'm sorry that the abortion you chose was
not the right choice for
you.
never say never!
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Posted: 10-12-07 19:53pm
I am sorry that the abortion was not the
right choice for meblond too, and I am
also sorry that the abortions of other
women was not the right choice for the
child.
Sorry meblond, I dont mean to cause you
any grief in saying you choice was not
right for you or your child but that is
the reality of the situation, I am not
critisizing you or chastizing you, you
know that though, I realise I am not
saying anything new to me or you, you have
realised this and come out the otherside
stronger, more your own person, you have
found the light amid your darkness. But i
hope you understand that what I said was
more to counteract the notion that is
wezzeling its way in that sorry Abortion
was wrong for you but its not for others,
well yes it is always wrong for the child.
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Posted: 10-12-07 20:08pm
meblonde01
wrote:
Jincks013
wrote:
My memory may be a bit
faulty but didn't you once state you'd had
an abortion meblonde? Sort of like
shooting yourself in the foot.. it was ok
for me but I don't want you to have that
option..
If I am wrong I apologize but since I am
about to head to work I can't take the
time to research the
thread..
Yep I sure did.. It was when I was very
very young and very very STUIP. I was
easily persuaded. It was the worse thing I
ever did and I would not wish anyone to go
through it. It is the reason I never had
children. I thought/knew it was wrong when
I did it and I still do, even more so!!
Call me a hypocrite if you want to, But
people do things that that changes their
lives and this did mine. I don’t protest
outside of an abortion clinic, but I
voice my feelings and experience on
abortions. My abortion was done for a man!
I grew into a very strong woman and I am
no longer easily persuaded. And to tell
you the truth it makes me sick when I
think of it. So there you go. Now you know
why I am so against abortions!!
Now let me ask you. Have you ever done
something you would never do again or want
your child to do? That is not shooting
yourself in the foot, Is it?
I stayed in an abusive marriage for 16
years. Now I speak at women shelters and
talked about abusive marriage and how not
to stay in one. Is that shooting myself in
the foot because I stayed in one, and now
talk about how not
to?
Why did it cause you to never have
children? I'm sorry that happened to you,
all of it.
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Posted: 10-13-07 11:19am
futureshock
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
Jincks013
wrote:
My memory may be a bit
faulty but didn't you once state you'd had
an abortion meblonde? Sort of like
shooting yourself in the foot.. it was ok
for me but I don't want you to have that
option..
If I am wrong I apologize but since I am
about to head to work I can't take the
time to research the
thread..
Yep I sure did.. It was when I was very
very young and very very STUIP. I was
easily persuaded. It was the worse thing I
ever did and I would not wish anyone to go
through it. It is the reason I never had
children. I thought/knew it was wrong when
I did it and I still do, even more so!!
Call me a hypocrite if you want to, But
people do things that that changes their
lives and this did mine. I don’t protest
outside of an abortion clinic, but I
voice my feelings and experience on
abortions. My abortion was done for a man!
I grew into a very strong woman and I am
no longer easily persuaded. And to tell
you the truth it makes me sick when I
think of it. So there you go. Now you know
why I am so against abortions!!
Now let me ask you. Have you ever done
something you would never do again or want
your child to do? That is not shooting
yourself in the foot, Is it?
I stayed in an abusive marriage for 16
years. Now I speak at women shelters and
talked about abusive marriage and how not
to stay in one. Is that shooting myself in
the foot because I stayed in one, and now
talk about how not
to?
Why did it cause you to never have
children? I'm sorry that happened to you,
all of it.
It wasn't anything medical. I felt like I
had my chance and I blew it, (so to
speak). I just couldn't bring myself to be
carry a child after once being pregnant
and aborting it.. Just my personal
feelings.. And Thank You. It was a long
time ago. I don’t sit around a dwell on
my past, but it still makes me sad at
times for the choice I made.