THIS HAPPENED AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA
YESTERDAY 9/18. SHOW THIS TO EVERYONE,
IT'S TIME FOR US TO WAKE THE HELL UP AND
SEE HOW OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES HAVE BEEN
SYSTEMATICALLY RIPPED AWAY FROM US.
INFORMATION IS YOUR WEAPON IN THIS WAR.
ARM YOURSELF, TAKE A STAND AND GET MAD!
and what do you think? this made me mad
just watching it!
[edited by moderator: the embedded object
wasn't working, so I pulled the link out
of it. Hope it works.]
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young Girl
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Posted: 09-22-07 13:28pm
link is all funky and messed up
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HcoBrunette06
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and it's al ittle hard to understand him
since he's on a mic. it just makes me so
mad.
whatever happened to "freedom of
speech"
You only have freedom of speech if people
like what you're saying.
(Alex Jones, etc.)
Ladies and gentleman of America, your
civil liberties are sliding through your
fingers. They had what, six cops on this
kid and then they tased him. Kerry even
said, "That's all right, let me answer his
question".
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Posted: 09-22-07 23:03pm
thanks for fixing my video!
i think he went over the line a bit, but i
dont think he should have been tazed at
all, i thik that was wrong of them and i
hope to god they get in huge trouble!!!
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Posted: 09-23-07 05:43am
HcoBrunette06
wrote:
thanks for fixing my video!
i think he went over the line a bit, but i
dont think he should have been tazed at
all, i thik that was wrong of them and i
hope to god they get in huge
trouble!!!
How did he go over the line?
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Posted: 09-23-07 09:48am
I was talking to my boyfriend about it,
and he made a good point. It wasn't
necessarily by what he said, but how he
said it. If he would have approached it in
a different mannor, it probably wouldn't
have been such a big deal, and when he
said what he did about "clinton getting a
blowjob"
I don't think he should have been tazed at
all, and I think he had a right to ask his
questions, that's why I posted this thread
not
because I'm against him. I just think he
could have done things a little
differently, but since it's already
happened, there won't be any of that. I
don't think he deserved to be tazed or
arrested though.
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Georgia59
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Posted: 09-23-07 10:49am
I think he was doing it just to get on tv.
I've seen it on the news and I think he
was just being sensationalist. If you're
really worried about the issues there are
far better things to do than putting
yourself on YouTube.
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Gu£st
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Posted: 09-23-07 19:22pm
if the man was right or wrong, if he could
have said things differently or not, that
is not the point.
The real point is that he was not allowed
to speak, not allowed to air his concerns
as an american citizen. That he was
forcably and violently prevented from
speaking. The same happend in the Uk not
so long back a man of 70 was physically
and very handedly ejected from and
arrested at a labour confrence because he
heckled something said by Jack Straw, this
70 year old man was a paid up member of
the labour party and had been all his life
and because he simply "booed" what Jack
straw said he was arrested. Our
governments are not working, they are not
looking out for the interests of the
people, they are lieing and decieving the
people, they are manipulating people,
putting fear into the people, taking away
your rights, they believe it is their
right to do so, it is their choice to do
so. For the sake of your country, for the
sake of your civil liberties and for the
sake of your rights trun away from your
governments and to the only establishment
that can counter this evil that has
infiltraited world politics... Even if you
can not be reconciled to belief in a
supreeme being, embrace the truth of
Christ, do not put your faith in these
tyrants put them in Christ and the truth
shall set you free.
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Posted: 09-23-07 19:39pm
Gu£st
wrote:
if the man was right or
wrong, if he could have said things
differently or not, that is not the
point.
The real point is that he was not allowed
to speak, not allowed to air his concerns
as an american citizen. That he was
forcably and violently prevented from
speaking. The same happend in the Uk not
so long back a man of 70 was physically
and very handedly ejected from and
arrested at a labour confrence because he
heckled something said by Jack Straw, this
70 year old man was a paid up member of
the labour party and had been all his life
and because he simply "booed" what Jack
straw said he was arrested. Our
governments are not working, they are not
looking out for the interests of the
people, they are lieing and decieving the
people, they are manipulating people,
putting fear into the people, taking away
your rights, they believe it is their
right to do so, it is their choice to do
so. For the sake of your country, for the
sake of your civil liberties and for the
sake of your rights trun away from your
governments and to the only establishment
that can counter this evil that has
infiltraited world politics... Even if you
can not be reconciled to belief in a
supreeme being, embrace the truth of
Christ, do not put your faith in these
tyrants put them in Christ and the truth
shall set you
free.
I was really encouraged by your post until
the last four lines. Dangit!
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Posted: 09-23-07 19:49pm
"The truth shall set you free!"
I remember that line from the movie Liar
Liar with Jim Carrey
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Posted: 09-23-07 19:59pm
I completely agree and I am a huge
supporter of free speech, all that crap.
But it just seemed too staged to me, or
something. I don't know.
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Freedom of Speech Posted: 09-23-07 20:20pm
Birch
wrote:
You only have freedom of speech if people
like what you're saying.
(Alex Jones, etc.)
Ladies and gentleman of America, your
civil liberties are sliding through your
fingers. They had what, six cops on this
kid and then they tased him. Kerry even
said, "That's all right, let me answer his
question".
I watched the clip of the incident and I
have to agree that the cops acted like the
gestapo. I do think anyone has the freedom
of speech to address a crowd, but they
must be prepared to answer questions about
their words. And many times, politicians
don't allow questions, which is absurd.
So, people in the crowd have the right to
ask questions and not be wrestled to the
ground and tasered. If there is a
disturbance caused by the person, then
they should be led to the exits, not
beaten down by six cops. There should be
no offensive words or obscentities, but
anyone should be allowed to address the
speaker.
As Birch said, even Kerry offered to
answer the guy's question. Who knows what
the kid's motive was? He still is entitled
to freedom of speech.
And Georgia59, what was this statement:
"I completely agree and I am a huge
supporter of free speech, all that crap."
Surely, you wouldn't call one of our most
important freedoms, "all that crap", if
you had fought in a war for those
freedoms. Right?
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Georgia59
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Posted: 09-23-07 21:05pm
It's just a figure of speech. I'm sorry if
it was disrespectful.
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Re: Freedom of Speech Posted: 09-23-07 22:51pm
lonestarguy
wrote:
I watched the clip of the incident and I
have to agree that the cops acted like the
gestapo. I do think anyone has the freedom
of speech to address a crowd, but they
must be prepared to answer questions about
their words. And many times, politicians
don't allow questions, which is absurd.
So, people in the crowd have the right to
ask questions and not be wrestled to the
ground and tasered. If there is a
disturbance caused by the person, then
they should be led to the exits, not
beaten down by six cops. There should be
no offensive words or obscentities, but
anyone should be allowed to address the
speaker.
As Birch said, even Kerry offered to
answer the guy's question. Who knows what
the kid's motive was? He still is entitled
to freedom of speech.
And Georgia59, what was this statement:
"I completely agree and I am a huge
supporter of free speech, all that crap."
Surely, you wouldn't call one of our most
important freedoms, "all that crap", if
you had fought in a war for those
freedoms.
Right?
This is tangential, but I don't understand
why cops aren't taught martial arts. Five
or six cops couldn't restrain one kid?
He was down, on the ground. I think they
just wanted him to shut up and play with
their toys.
Edit to add: I sure would like Kerry to
release a statement of his answers to the
questions this kid asked. It's too bad
that he'll have time to prepare answers
instead of on the fly like this.