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everyday_struggle
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Alex Jones Arrest In Nyc
Posted: 09-12-07 19:41pm
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So let me get this straight, in order for
you to use a bullhorn, you need a permit.
Yet, NYC is not giving out permits. Does
anyone see anything wrong with this? Is
this just a preview of things to come?
This reminds me of the 1937 Marihuana
stamp act. Pretty soon are we going to
outlaw free speech? Everyday, i just want
to move out of this country. I mean rich
celebs are doing it. I hope once bush
leaves office everything would be ok
again.
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Posted: 09-12-07 20:28pm
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i certainly don't mind.
who the hell wants a bunch of fools
running around town disturbing the peace
while screaming insults and acting like
complete idiots?
No one other than riot control has the
need to be loud and obnoxious. Nobody
needs to get a point across THAT badly.
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Posted: 09-12-07 22:46pm
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What is it that Alex Jones wants to talk
about? *bats eyes innocently*
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Posted: 09-12-07 23:10pm
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let me know if you need help finding your
way out of th U.S 
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everyday_struggle
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Posted: 09-13-07 14:00pm
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| rainfire1424
wrote: | i certainly don't mind.
who the hell wants a bunch of fools
running around town disturbing the peace
while screaming insults and acting like
complete idiots?
No one other than riot control has the
need to be loud and obnoxious. Nobody
needs to get a point across THAT
badly. |
Alex Jones wasnt around acting like a
complete fool. Plus, this is new york
city, you have idiots running around being
worse than loud and obnoxious. But thats
not my question. My question is WHY. WHY
did New York City ban bullhorns unless you
have a permit and then not hand them out.
Whether you like the message or not is
irrelevant.
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Posted: 09-13-07 14:47pm
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Where do you have to go to get the permit?
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everyday_struggle
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Posted: 09-13-07 14:48pm
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| Eiri
wrote: | | Where do you have to go to
get the
permit? |
City hall.
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Posted: 09-13-07 15:07pm
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| everyday_struggle
wrote: | | Eiri
wrote: | | Where do you have to go to
get the
permit? |
City hall. |
Did this person go there?
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everyday_struggle
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Posted: 09-13-07 15:35pm
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| Eiri
wrote: | | everyday_struggle
wrote: | | Eiri
wrote: | | Where do you have to go to
get the
permit? |
City hall. |
Did this person go
there? |
The demonstrators had tried to obtain a
"permit" for the protest but were refused
by authorities. Officers later ticketed
Jones for "using a sound device without a
permit".
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Posted: 09-13-07 15:54pm
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maybe its because theres a lot of
unnecessary protesting going on and the
city wants to control it because the other
residents don't deserve to have to listen
to it.
and perhaps they thought his argument was
superfluous.
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Posted: 09-13-07 15:57pm
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Yes, we aren't getting the whole story
here.
You failed to post a link.
You failed to mention there were other
protesters! I'd gotten the view that there
was one man wandering the streets of NYC
screaming through a megaphone.
What was this man AND his supporters
protesting?
WHY were they refused a permit?
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everyday_struggle
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Posted: 09-13-07 16:02pm
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| rainfire1424
wrote: | maybe its because theres a
lot of unnecessary protesting going on and
the city wants to control it because the
other residents don't deserve to have to
listen to it.
and perhaps they thought his argument was
superfluous. |
the prostest was amist a FOX News
coverage. Fox news has cameras reporters
and they also are making their fair amount
of noise. A lot of unnecessary protesting?
Are you a communist? Who deems whats
necessary and whats not? Maybe we should
start banning piercings on body parts and
you better not protest because its not
necessary.
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Posted: 09-13-07 16:05pm
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| everyday_struggle
wrote: | | rainfire1424
wrote: | maybe its because theres a
lot of unnecessary protesting going on and
the city wants to control it because the
other residents don't deserve to have to
listen to it.
and perhaps they thought his argument was
superfluous. |
the prostest was amist a FOX News
coverage. Fox news has cameras reporters
and they also are making their fair amount
of noise. A lot of unnecessary protesting?
Are you a communist? Who deems whats
necessary and whats not? Maybe we should
start banning piercings on body parts and
you better not protest because its not
necessary. |
Please pardon EverydayStruggle. He gets
angry and jumps down people's throats very
easily.
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Posted: 09-13-07 16:10pm
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Here, at least we will all know what the
OP is referring to.
http://infowars.com/articles/alex/ale
x_jones_arrested_nyc_update.htm
NEW YORK - Media activist Alex Jones was
arrested by New York Police Department
officers while filming a documentary about
the sixth anniversary of September 11th
and joining the protest against the
official version of what happened on 9/11.
According to Infowars sources Jones was
singled out by police from the head of a
crowd of about 400 9/11 Truth Activists
and protesters. He was verbally accosted
and forced by the police officers to
present identification which he was not
carrying at the time.
NYPD officers arrested Jones for
"unspecified charges" and removed him from
the protest crowd to be taken to the
nearest police precinct where he was later
released following a protest outside the
jail by other 9/11 truthers who chanted
"let him go".
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everyday_struggle
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Posted: 09-13-07 16:21pm
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| Eiri
wrote: | | everyday_struggle
wrote: | | rainfire1424
wrote: | maybe its because theres a
lot of unnecessary protesting going on and
the city wants to control it because the
other residents don't deserve to have to
listen to it.
and perhaps they thought his argument was
superfluous. |
the prostest was amist a FOX News
coverage. Fox news has cameras reporters
and they also are making their fair amount
of noise. A lot of unnecessary protesting?
Are you a communist? Who deems whats
necessary and whats not? Maybe we should
start banning piercings on body parts and
you better not protest because its not
necessary. |
Please pardon EverydayStruggle. He gets
angry and jumps down people's throats very
easily. |
nah dont pardon me. I dont get mad, im
just passionate about what i say. You want
to call it getting mad? go ahead, ill
still sleep good at night. thank you
sillyakchick, i was going to post that. Im
trying to look for a conservative spin on
it but cant seem to find it. What i dont
like is that our American troops are dying
in iraq for our "freedom" and yet this guy
gets arrested for protesting.
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Posted: 09-13-07 16:25pm
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| Eiri
wrote: | | everyday_struggle
wrote: | | rainfire1424
wrote: | maybe its because theres a
lot of unnecessary protesting going on and
the city wants to control it because the
other residents don't deserve to have to
listen to it.
and perhaps they thought his argument was
superfluous. |
the prostest was amist a FOX News
coverage. Fox news has cameras reporters
and they also are making their fair amount
of noise. A lot of unnecessary protesting?
Are you a communist? Who deems whats
necessary and whats not? Maybe we should
start banning piercings on body parts and
you better not protest because its not
necessary. |
Please pardon EverydayStruggle. He gets
angry and jumps down people's throats very
easily. |
lmfao.
yes, im a communist. 
grow up and stop using words you don't
understand. Stick to the 4-letter type you
are used to.
Its OK Eiri.. no offense taken. I'm pretty
unaffected by ignorant opinions.
Somebody is just getting extremely
offended that some random guy couldnt go
about screaming his head off to a bunch of
people that more than likely didnt want to
hear him.
don't go spouting off about freedom of
speech either. Because although it IS
freedom of speech, its not freedom of
*unnecessary pandemonium. *
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everyday_struggle
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Posted: 09-13-07 17:02pm
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| rainfire1424
wrote: | | Eiri
wrote: | | everyday_struggle
wrote: | | rainfire1424
wrote: | maybe its because theres a
lot of unnecessary protesting going on and
the city wants to control it because the
other residents don't deserve to have to
listen to it.
and perhaps they thought his argument was
superfluous. |
the prostest was amist a FOX News
coverage. Fox news has cameras reporters
and they also are making their fair amount
of noise. A lot of unnecessary protesting?
Are you a communist? Who deems whats
necessary and whats not? Maybe we should
start banning piercings on body parts and
you better not protest because its not
necessary. |
Please pardon EverydayStruggle. He gets
angry and jumps down people's throats very
easily. |
lmfao.
yes, im a communist.
grow up and stop using words you don't
understand. Stick to the 4-letter type you
are used to.
Its OK Eiri.. no offense taken. I'm pretty
unaffected by ignorant opinions.
Somebody is just getting extremely
offended that some random guy couldnt go
about screaming his head off to a bunch of
people that more than likely didnt want to
hear him.
don't go spouting off about freedom of
speech either. Because although it IS
freedom of speech, its not freedom of
*unnecessary pandemonium.
* |
I love the fact that you deflect the right
to protest by simply saying "its
pandemonium". It is freedom of free speech
maybe you are not familiar with the bill
of rights, let me explain it to you
better.
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an
establishment of religion, or prohibiting
the free exercise thereof; or abridging
the freedom of speech, or of the press;
or the
right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the
government for a redress of grievances.
and your arguement is "its too loud and
obnoxious" that is what i find laughable.
as you can see this is not the first time
him being arrested by just asking
questions and protesting.
http://www.youtube.co
m/watch?v=aoyn_doplUM
the actual protest. AGAIN, you are allowed
to protest in peace, not you are allowed
to protest if everybody agrees with you
and there is a not as much noise. My 4
letter words make a lot more sense than
your ignorant, close minded, "big letter"
words. your a joke.
http://www.youtube.co
m/watch?v=eVzY1FPhdDU
p.s.
I AM A NEW YORKER and I find it digusting
that this happens in my city.
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Posted: 09-13-07 17:25pm
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I want everyone to be sure to know that he
was arrested on "unspecified charges". He
was removed from the protest and later
released.
Here is more of the article:
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wrote: | The demonstrators had tried
to obtain a "permit" for the protest but
were refused by authorities. Officers
later ticketed Jones for "using a sound
device without a permit".
However, other people who were simply
filming the arrest were also arrested
themselves.
Alex said the arresting officer was
overbearing and that having the cuffs
slapped on him hurt more than when he cut
his finger off in a boating accident.
The officer physically charged and
assaulted individuals who were not even
involved in the protest, such as Discovery
Channel cameramen.
Alex Jones' cameraman Rob Jacobson was
also pushed by cops and then punched in
the shoulder for "obstructing police
business" despite the fact that he was
stood well away from the area on the
sidewalk.
Two British cameramen who were part of the
We Are Change UK group were also arrested
for "blocking traffic".
Eyewitnesses described a chaotic scene
where police simply waded in, assaulting
and arresting people on a whim, but noted
that Alex Jones was singled out
immediately after cops arrived.
Geraldo Rivera and Fox News chiefs were
responsible for calling the police and
having protesters arrested.
The group were told that they didn't have
a permit to protest. A permit is
government permission to do something that
would otherwise be illegal - meaning the
right to peaceably assemble and free
speech as defined in the Constitution have
been officially outlawed.
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Posted: 09-13-07 17:27pm
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Thought I'd never say this....
I'm with you everyday struggle!! Take me
with you when you leave the country!!
The policing of protests is always
ridiculous. People are protesting, so the
police run out and try to stop them. I
never get it, and it happens EVERY time.
Protests are supposed to be loud, they are
supposed to get people's attention. If you
don't want to hear the message, yes it's
annoying. But it's the point of
protesting.
Police arrested people in protests against
Vietnam too.
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