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Q: What Is This Little Guy?
asked by: hopefulmjz on September 3rd, 2007
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So....I got home from my parents today and happened to look down and here is this blob with pin feathers. At first I thought it was dead, but then I noticed it breathing. So I unloaded the car and got Adriana down for her nap then went out to get it. I thought it was a sea gull when I first picked it up. It has a kinda fat beak and weird feet. Also the fuzz on it is a whitish yellow color, despite the black pin feathers. So I looked online quick and I couldn't find any pics of any this young. I didn't look long since I don't have much time. But I couldn't just leave him out there. There are lots of cats around and I am just not the kind of person that can leave a needy animal behind. If it were bigger/older I would have left it, but I felt the chances of the parents finding him were slim. I've never cared for a sea gull before...but I have a little experience with baby birds (I used to volunteer at SWWRC, a wildlife rehab center) But I'm going to give them a call and see if they can take him tomorrow. I *think* it's a sea gull, but if anyone knows what it is let me know!! Razz

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young Girl
replied on September 3rd, 2007
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it looks like a baby crow or morning dove even
but im not sure?
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Sandbox Party
replied on September 3rd, 2007
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have you tried looking up in the walnut tree for a nest, maybe seeing what adult birds are frequenting the tree?
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hopefulmjz
replied on September 3rd, 2007
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I am pretty sure it's not a mourning dove. The black pin feathers give it the black appearance of a crow, but I think the the white fuzz is the color the feathers will be. But I don't know Confused

Just the other day I saw a sea gull run across the road, and I couldn't stop right there and get it, so I thought if it were still there on my way back I would stop. Well I had 2 babies with me, and I couldn't get close enough to park and get it...so I thought I'd go back later. Well I went to go see later on that day and someone had hit it Crying or Very sad I felt like 2 cents. It was terrible. And now this little guy shows up in my yard. Earlier this summer we had a baby robin in my daughters pool Shocked
But that one was old enough to almost be on it's own, and mom came down to feed it when we put it in the crotch of the tree.
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Sandbox Party
replied on September 3rd, 2007
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arent seagulls typically white tho? I dunno. Maybe they're different up there.

Only thing i can think of is look up in the tree for a nest it may have fallen out of.
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AyaMiyaki
replied on September 3rd, 2007
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Poor thing! Shocked I'm glad you found it before a cat did! I have no idea what it could be though Sad but I hope that center can take it soon!
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young Girl
replied on September 3rd, 2007
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i looked up some baby seagulls fo you

here is what they look like

im not really sure what it is but its cute Smile
http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/det ail/45/64/23386445.jpg
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Chillout2
replied on September 3rd, 2007
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You should look outside in the area you found it see if thiers a nest close around its not close to being a fledgeling so my guess is one of thier other babies probably kicked it out by accident. I worked at the bird rescue center for quite a while you mentioned you worked at animal rescue place rite? So you probably know quite a bit, but if you have question feel free to ask me. My only advice at this point is keep it worm and away from your baby. Very Happy

Oh to me its looks like a pigeon. That would explain the darker feather quils.
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amethyst eyes
replied on September 3rd, 2007
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Looks like a crow or a Raven to me. You should take it to a local shelter or bird rescue so they can properly care for it. Once a bird has the scent of a human the mother will not take it back into the nest (most of the time)
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Chillout2
replied on September 3rd, 2007
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iridescent_opal wrote:
Looks like a crow or a Raven to me. You should take it to a local shelter or bird rescue so they can properly care for it. Once a bird has the scent of a human the mother will not take it back into the nest (most of the time)


Thats actually a myth. Very Happy When I was working at the bird rescue center they told us to tell anyone who thought this otherwise.
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Sandbox Party
replied on September 3rd, 2007
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lol actually they just covered that very thing on dirty jobs tonight.. thats actually an old wives tale told by mothers to their children to keep them from touching wild animals. ^_^
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amethyst eyes
replied on September 3rd, 2007
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I am not basing this off a 'tale' I am basing it from experience. I tried to help a bird as a child and afterwards the mother refused to go near it even though she was trying to help before hand. I watched for hours because I felt bad for the baby bird and we had to call animal control. I have also been told this by multple vets with experience in this area.
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Chillout2
replied on September 3rd, 2007
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iridescent_opal wrote:
I am not basing this off a 'tale' I am basing it from experience. I tried to help a bird as a child and afterwards the mother refused to go near it even though she was trying to help before hand. I watched for hours because I felt bad for the baby bird and we had to call animal control. I have also been told this by multple vets with experience in this area.


I wasnt trying to be rude or anything. I was just saying that it isnt true.
Im just guessing the BIRD rescue center have ALOT of expierence with well BIRDS. Forgive me if I came off as a no-it-all.
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young Girl
replied on September 3rd, 2007
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it is infact not true

birds even with the human scent have the chace of their mother takeing them back.
people started that myth a looong time ago

even if baby birds have human scent the mother will take it back into the nest
sometimes it takes a while but it happens

hope this helps Smile
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hopefulmjz
replied on September 3rd, 2007
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The baby robin we took out of the kiddie pool was cared for by the parents afterwards. I also hand fed some of my baby parakeets and the parents didn't reject them. So, it's not always true that the parents won't take them back.

I've already mentioned I will be calling SWWRC tomorrow, for those wondering. Wink
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AyaMiyaki
replied on September 3rd, 2007
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Where are you keeping the little guy in the meantime? I hope Cynder doesn't find it... Shocked

(tell me I spelled kitty's name right Sad)
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hopefulmjz
replied on September 3rd, 2007
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Yup, I do have the bird in the meantime. I have the bird shut in the bathroom in a dog bowl lined with paper towel. He seems to look comfy. Also the bathroom is the warmest place in the house with no drafts.

I don't think it's a crow or raven, those are both black birds. This one looks like it will be white/cream once he's got all his feathers. Also the beak is long and pointed, but it gets fat in the middle. I don't know how to explain. And he has a weird looking tongue...which is long too Shocked
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hopefulmjz
replied on September 3rd, 2007
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AyaMiyaki wrote:
Where are you keeping the little guy in the meantime? I hope Cynder doesn't find it... Shocked

(tell me I spelled kitty's name right Sad)

And yes, you spelled his name right. Razz
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sick_mama17
replied on September 4th, 2007
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Im glad you rescued it Smile I would guess its a Pigeon, I dont know much about birds though.
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hopefulmjz
replied on September 4th, 2007
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Now that I've read more, I highly doubt it's a seagull. They nest in April and May and you almost never see a baby because they're really protective of their young. Also I found this one under a tree, and seagulls don't nest in trees. There is a nest above where I found him, but it looks abandoned. It looks like the nest is torn apart.
The beak is what throws me off...because it looks exactly like a gulls beak. And a dove has a long roundish beak, and so does this one, but it's not smooth like a doves beak. I would guess a pigeon has the same beak as a dove, but maybe not. And doves/pigeons only lay 1 or 2 eggs in a clutch...so that would make sense too. I don't know Sad
I guess I'll find out later. I really hope they can come and get him because I'm homebound during the week :S
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