If she only had sex the day before her death she isn't even pregnant yet. 10 weeks pregnancy is a whole different ballpark.

until the sperm and the ovum meet there is only one human being to consider the woman and her crimes. However if we were able to by some as yet uninvented means be 100% certain the sperm will meet the ovum then I believe we must grant a stay of execution.

In my scenario we know 100% the sperm will meet the egg. Thanks for your thorough answer. You get my point exactly.

Why? Assuming the sperm and egg have a 100% chance of meeting if left alone.

if they had sex the day before she was scheduled to die.. then the proposed embryo wouldnt survive long enough to become anything. Hell, it takes longer than 24 hours for even the two cells to meet and form anything.

Where did you get 10 weeks from? Do you honestly think there are 10 weeks between day to day?

"if they had sex the day before she was scheduled to die.. then the proposed embryo wouldnt survive long enough to become anything. Hell, it takes longer than 24 hours for even the two cells to meet and form anything."

what do you mean by "anything" it is a biological fact that once a sperm and an ovum unite a new, unique and idividual human being comes into existance. If you mean anything that resembles a born human being or even a fetus your quite correct but there is no doubt that the zygote is a something and that is a living growing unique and idividual human being.

The real question here posed is regarding contraception and birth control. The reproductive act has been engaged the sperm is on its way to the ovum and will unite 100%. in futureshocks scenario to execute the woman at this point would equate to a contraceptive act and my posistion on this issue is that nature should be allowed to take its course.

what compelled me even more was the possiblity of the sperm uniting with the ovum after the execution of the woman meaning a unique and idividual human being would come into existance and would die as a result of the punishment that the state imposed on the mother for her crime and an innocent life would end up dying for her crimes.

So in all I sided with allowing nature to take its course, let the woman have the child and then the state would enact its so called but inhumane "justice" upon the mother.

You are calling a single cell a unique individual?? Did I miss something here???

ACTUALLY...Conception does not always create a human..

Conception CAN create a "Molar pregnancy"...Which is NOT a person.

A molar pregnancy refers to a pregnancy that is a type of gestational trophoblastic disease. It can refer to either a complete or a partial mole. Throughout the United States and Europe the incidence is about 1/1000 and 1/2000 pregnancies.

This occurs when the nucleus of an egg is either lost or inactivated. The sperm then duplicates itself because the egg was lacking genetic information. Usually there is no fetus, no placenta, no fluid and no amniotic membranes.




Partial Mole

This most frequently occurs when two sperm fertilize the same egg. There may be partial placentas, membranes or even a fetus present in a partial mole. However, there are usually genetic problems with the baby. Rarely, a partial mole will exist with twin pregnancy, however, the other twin rarely survives


SO OBVIOUSLY, A sperm and egg meeting does not always creat a FETUS, specifically in a MOLAR PREGNANCY.

Yes but there is no ebryo and therefore no pregnancy so they should go ahead with the execution.

"You are calling a single cell a unique individual?? Did I miss something here??? "

That is exactly what I am calling the zygote a unique living individual human being.... you probably missed biology 101.

"ACTUALLY...Conception does not always create a human.. "

it does if everything is the way things "should be" regarding the nature of the gemites.

"Yes but there is no ebryo and therefore no pregnancy so they should go ahead with the execution. "

Hmm I would agree that the execution at this point would be a million times better than execution while the mother is pregnant obviously but I would rather if knowing 100% that she had had sex and 100% a child would come into existance I would say who am I to prevent life let nature take its course....but that is just me.

No, it does not. There are many situations where the woman miscarries due to genetic defects or dies during childborth due to lack of oxygen from a cord wrapped around its neck. That must have been some Biology course. Was it by chance offered at a Catholic university?

The way it "SHOULD BE"??

Sperm meets egg, that is the way it SHOULD BE...

Something bad happens AFTER this fact.

Again, I say kill her. The 10 week old fetus and this not-yet-implanted zygote are the same thing to me.

It was a reference to his/her's other topic.

Guest is a Male. If you go to his profile and try to pm them it says "send HIM a message"

It kinda of comes together though. Of course a man would be this beligerent and ignorant of a woman's rights to her own body.

"No, it does not. There are many situations where the woman miscarries due to genetic defects or dies during childborth due to lack of oxygen from a cord wrapped around its neck. That must have been some Biology course. Was it by chance offered at a Catholic university? "

either youve turned into a blithering fool or that simply has been wrote a bit to fast as I find it hard to understand. but i think your still on about the status of the unborn human being

Genetic defects do not make us less than a human being, either we are human being or we are not. Obviously in the 1st case that Carifairy points to a mole is not a human being "because the egg was lacking genetic information"

now in the second it is clear that we are dealing with a human being with a serious genetic defect that usually causes a miscarrige however "Rarely, a partial mole will exist with twin pregnancy, however, the other twin rarely survives"

"SO OBVIOUSLY, A sperm and egg meeting does not always creat a FETUS, specifically in a MOLAR PREGNANCY."

but I never mentioned FETUS I said a unique individual living human being... all being well regarding the gemites.

"Of course a man would be this beligerent and ignorant of a woman's rights to her own body. "

how very sexist of you

If she had sex the day before her execution, she should still be executed and the guard should be punished according to the rules of conduct for workers in the penal system. Just because she has sperm swimming up her reproductive track and an egg heading down doesn't mean she gets special treatment.

I could look up a host of genetic deformities that make a fetus not only inviable (as in it would die no matter what) but clearly inhuman as well.

As I write that I think to myself... clearly, some of these things are not human, such as fetus-infitu (sp). Yet, it has human DNA. But it's definitely NOT a human. Hm. For my own personal entertainment, this may personally mean that just because a normal fetus has human DNA, it doesn't necessarily mean it is human either.