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embarrassed40
on October 6th, 2007
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Re: Hi
Birch wrote:
embarrassed40 wrote:


I'd rather not talk of my specific health issue but thank you for the kind words.
Boy. Eiri sure does take everything so personal. It is difficult to state an opposing point of view without people getting their panties in a knot! I just don't understand some of the people here, that think they have an open mind! Rolling Eyes


Uh, it's one thing to state your opinion, but you're a broken record dude. Laughing

Having an open mind means agreeing with everything I say, of course. Wink

Troll on, my friend.



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I AGREE! Razz

I am happy to disagree with certain folks here, and they are allowed to have their opinion but I still think the arguments are all about justification! In reading through the threads, it is amazing the lengths some people take justifying what they have done. I read one poster write "I did not give the embryo permission to use my body!" Boy what a "Strange Cookie". Laughing
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Birch
replied on October 6th, 2007
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Okay, now it's just blatant and it's not even clever...mods?
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embarrassed40
replied on October 6th, 2007
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Birch wrote:
Okay, now it's just blatant and it's not even clever...mods?


I earnestly believe some people here go to great lengths out of justification, is there something wrong with saying that? I am willing to be enlightened, since I do not know all (Yet). Very Happy Why must we promote censorship of a valid, yet unpopular opinion.
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nightangel73
replied on October 6th, 2007
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Re: Hi
embarrassed40 wrote:
I read one poster write "I did not give the embryo permission to use my body!" Boy what a "Strange Cookie". Laughing


You are right that is one strange cookie! Laughing
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Tylanas
replied on October 6th, 2007
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Why is that strange?

It's true.

Are you going to deny that?
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amino65
replied on October 6th, 2007
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ok I normally don't respond to these threads I just read them, but I had to respond to the statement made about abortions having a high rate of medical complications afterward.

That is absurd. Like Eiri said, births tend to do more damage than abortions when you think about it in the physical aspect.

I wanted to mention something my mom told me about a few weeks ago.

My mom works in a hospital, and a young woman (about 22 years old) came into the ER complaining that she did not feel right, and not much longer afterward she started bleeding profusely from her nose, collapsed on site, and eventually lapsed into a coma. She was pronounced brain dead. She had ridiculously high blood pressure that caused ruptures which is why she bled. This young woman was also 9 months pregnant.

So you see, pregnancy in my opinion can be much more dangerous than abortion. I think the reason you seem insistent that abortions are dangerous is because it happened to your sister. If your sister had followed directions, she would have been spared any harm.
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Verizon-y
replied on October 6th, 2007
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embarrassed40 wrote:
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embarrassed40, why do you mention who you would consider marrying in so many of your posts? It creeps me out, personally.


Sorry to "Creep you out". I am stating my opinion as a man that is not interested in marrying a woman with a frivolous abortion. I do not expect anyone here to be my future marriage partner, as I already have picked my next spouse. In addition to that, you appear to be out of the age range I would consider.

Good luck in your future endeavors.

Embarrassed40


Well, I am also MARRIED and I have, believe it or not, AN ACTUAL CHILD! lol!

So how do you bring up the "frivolous abortion" question on dates?
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Tylanas
replied on October 6th, 2007
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Oh goodness, that lady must have had preeclampsia (is that the right term?)!! O.o Random question, but did the baby survive? Preeclam is dangerous for it, too. That's so sad Sad
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Tylanas
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futureshock wrote:
embarrassed40 wrote:
futureshock wrote:
embarrassed40, why do you mention who you would consider marrying in so many of your posts? It creeps me out, personally.


Sorry to "Creep you out". I am stating my opinion as a man that is not interested in marrying a woman with a frivolous abortion. I do not expect anyone here to be my future marriage partner, as I already have picked my next spouse. In addition to that, you appear to be out of the age range I would consider.

Good luck in your future endeavors.

Embarrassed40


Well, I am also MARRIED and I have, believe it or not, AN ACTUAL CHILD! lol!

So how do you bring up the "frivolous abortion" question on dates?

He doesn't have to lol. Because any woman he'd even get involved with, he'd already know whether she had one or not based entirely on the "type" of woman she was. He said it, not me!!
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embarrassed40
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futureshock wrote:
embarrassed40 wrote:
futureshock wrote:
embarrassed40, why do you mention who you would consider marrying in so many of your posts? It creeps me out, personally.


Sorry to "Creep you out". I am stating my opinion as a man that is not interested in marrying a woman with a frivolous abortion. I do not expect anyone here to be my future marriage partner, as I already have picked my next spouse. In addition to that, you appear to be out of the age range I would consider.

Good luck in your future endeavors.

Embarrassed40


Well, I am also MARRIED and I have, believe it or not, AN ACTUAL CHILD! lol!

So how do you bring up the "frivolous abortion" question on dates?


Congratuations on your child, I'm sure he/she is a lovely little person.

I simply ask questions, dates are not interrogations but I am not afraid to talk about sex, abortions or whatever else pops up. I consider this normal conversation so long as it is done in a humorous & light fashion. Of course the consequences of a "wrong" answer on the topic of abortion will mean no marriage but we can still enjoy each others company.
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Verizon-y
replied on October 6th, 2007
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Eiri wrote:


So how do you bring up the "frivolous abortion" question on dates?

He doesn't have to lol. Because any woman he'd even get involved with, he'd already know whether she had one or not based entirely on the "type" of woman she was. He said it, not me!![/quote]

Well, every type of woman has abortions, even pro-life women.
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embarrassed40
replied on October 6th, 2007
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Eiri wrote:
futureshock wrote:
embarrassed40 wrote:
futureshock wrote:
embarrassed40, why do you mention who you would consider marrying in so many of your posts? It creeps me out, personally.


Sorry to "Creep you out". I am stating my opinion as a man that is not interested in marrying a woman with a frivolous abortion. I do not expect anyone here to be my future marriage partner, as I already have picked my next spouse. In addition to that, you appear to be out of the age range I would consider.

Good luck in your future endeavors.

Embarrassed40


Well, I am also MARRIED and I have, believe it or not, AN ACTUAL CHILD! lol!

So how do you bring up the "frivolous abortion" question on dates?

He doesn't have to lol. Because any woman he'd even get involved with, he'd already know whether she had one or not based entirely on the "type" of woman she was. He said it, not me!!


I challenge you to find that quote you have attributed to me (In context). I say you just made it up entirely. I think that makes your statement a LIE! This serves as further proof that you are willing to say virtually anything to justify your position and insecurities. Very sad! Crying or Very sad

Is one of the qualifications as moderator, to be able to make up quotes from people you "hate" & disagree with? Razz
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Verizon-y
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embarrassed, so when on the date do you ask? Over dinner? Before sex? Do you come right out with it, like, "So tell me, pretty lady, how many frivolous abortions have you had?"
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embarrassed40
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futureshock wrote:
embarrassed, so when on the date do you ask? Over dinner? Before sex? Do you come right out with it, like, "So tell me, pretty lady, how many frivolous abortions have you had?"


When speaking to a woman about her past, a lead in like: Have any of your silly boyfriends filled your belly up with babies? After gauging her response, I could either stop the questions or continue and pinpoint wheather she has committed the "Mortal sin" in terms of a potential future marriage with me.
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Georgia59
replied on October 6th, 2007
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Ok, I really didn't want to get into this again, but I can't help myself.

Embarrassed- when you find out a woman has had abortions, do you decide not to have sex with her? Knowing that there is ALWAYS a chance she might get pregnant, and she might again have an abortion? Or is it ok to have sex with her, because you don't plan on marrying her?
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embarrassed40
replied on October 6th, 2007
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Ok, I really didn't want to get into this again, but I can't help myself.

Embarrassed- when you find out a woman has had abortions, do you decide not to have sex with her? Knowing that there is ALWAYS a chance she might get pregnant, and she might again have an abortion? Or is it ok to have sex with her, because you don't plan on marrying her?


Georgia,

I think it is ok (But not necessarily preferred) to have sex with a woman who has had a frivolous previous abortion. I would consider doubling up on the proper precautions, and if by some amazing fluke she became pregnant, I would insist she carry this baby.

Thank you for the interest.
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armywife5607
replied on October 6th, 2007
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i picture someone who has no heart or soul that is perfectly fine with killing an innocent child who's an unsuspecting bystander in someone's mifortune that never had a chance at life.
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replied on October 6th, 2007
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armywife5607 wrote:
i picture someone who has no heart or soul


And you'd know this how? Did you actually open up their chest to see she hasn't a heart? you did know a person doesn't live real well without one and as entertaining as we find vampires the undead just don't happen. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to get pregnant either.

armywife5607 wrote:
that is perfectly fine with killing an innocent child


Whoa! Brakes! Warp Stop Sulu..
I haven't seen a single person post killing a child is ok. Why do you assume so? Do you have some information you ought to share with the rest of us?
This tiresome game of self gratifiying pity party semantics may work for you but lets get back to embryos m'kay?


armywife5607 wrote:
who's an unsuspecting bystander in someone's mifortune that never had a chance at life.


Embryo's can stand by? How? Can you describe in exact detail how this occurs? Last I heard they don't have any self awareness to stand by. Again your use of senseless semantics leaves me gasping for breath trying to control my laughter..
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Georgia59
replied on October 6th, 2007
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embarrassed40 wrote:
Georgia59 wrote:
Ok, I really didn't want to get into this again, but I can't help myself.

Embarrassed- when you find out a woman has had abortions, do you decide not to have sex with her? Knowing that there is ALWAYS a chance she might get pregnant, and she might again have an abortion? Or is it ok to have sex with her, because you don't plan on marrying her?


Georgia,

I think it is ok (But not necessarily preferred) to have sex with a woman who has had a frivolous previous abortion. I would consider doubling up on the proper precautions, and if by some amazing fluke she became pregnant, I would insist she carry this baby.

Thank you for the interest.


The thing is, amazing flukes are the reason many women have abortions.

It's just hard for me to accept that because you wouldn't be the one forced to put your body through carrying the baby, she would. Would you tell her this ahead of time, that you would expect her to carry any baby to term? So she could be informed enough not to risk sleeping with you and being forced to gestate?
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embarrassed40
replied on October 6th, 2007
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Georgia59 wrote:
embarrassed40 wrote:
Georgia59 wrote:
Ok, I really didn't want to get into this again, but I can't help myself.

Embarrassed- when you find out a woman has had abortions, do you decide not to have sex with her? Knowing that there is ALWAYS a chance she might get pregnant, and she might again have an abortion? Or is it ok to have sex with her, because you don't plan on marrying her?


Georgia,

I think it is ok (But not necessarily preferred) to have sex with a woman who has had a frivolous previous abortion. I would consider doubling up on the proper precautions, and if by some amazing fluke she became pregnant, I would insist she carry this baby.

Thank you for the interest.


The thing is, amazing flukes are the reason many women have abortions.

It's just hard for me to accept that because you wouldn't be the one forced to put your body through carrying the baby, she would. Would you tell her this ahead of time, that you would expect her to carry any baby to term? So she could be informed enough not to risk sleeping with you and being forced to gestate?


#1 I can not force anyone to gestate, but I can be a very strong influence! Razz

#2 I will take your "Informed" comment under consideration in future sexual escapades, although I am currently engaged and do not expect any in the near-term!

#3 Regardless of whose body is being utilized for housing & nurishment, the act was committed by both parties, therefore both parties live up to their different & equally difficult responsibilities.
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