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nallely
on October 5th, 2007
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Its Not Fair
you talk about womens rights and that either way its going to be legal and what abot the baby doesnt he have rights and dont tell me he doesnt feel because is not true. you can do whaterver u want to ur body but first take the responsability for ur actions and about rape is not the babys fault nd thers something called adoption
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anniek
replied on October 5th, 2007
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First it is sad someone has to mock me in my answering the question asked. If you read my post I was 17 when I got pregnant and understand is cost alot. We had no help what so ever, everything we did we did on our own. (by the way my husband was 19). Also I don't know why my son called the baby "Baby dot" just something he came up with. I did not bring him to an abortion clinic. We were at a check up and they wanted to do an ultra sound to see how far along she was and she asked us to be there. At the time she was planning on keeping the baby. The father broke up with her a few weeks later and she went and had the abortion. He now is sufering from depression because of this. He had no say in what she did and wanted the baby. I don't say it's the womens fault it is certainly both. When it comes to health issues and such I understand. But just not fitting in to your life right then I don't. When it comes to adoption yes there are many kids who are not adopted but not babies. People wait years because babies are not available in the US. I've seen what abortions do and I've lived what life can be if you work at it. I hope I do not get put down for what I say but this is what I think and I did not and wont put down what others think I was simply answering the questions.
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Birch
replied on October 5th, 2007
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Re: Its Not Fair
nallely wrote:
you talk about womens rights and that either way its going to be legal and what abot the baby doesnt he have rights and dont tell me he doesnt feel because is not true. you can do whaterver u want to ur body but first take the responsability for ur actions and about rape is not the babys fault nd thers something called adoption


Life isn't fair.

That's why there's something called abortion.

anniek wrote:
First it is sad someone has to mock me in my answering the question asked. If you read my post I was 17 when I got pregnant and understand is cost alot. We had no help what so ever, everything we did we did on our own. (by the way my husband was 19). Also I don't know why my son called the baby "Baby dot" just something he came up with. I did not bring him to an abortion clinic. We were at a check up and they wanted to do an ultra sound to see how far along she was and she asked us to be there. At the time she was planning on keeping the baby. The father broke up with her a few weeks later and she went and had the abortion. He now is sufering from depression because of this. He had no say in what she did and wanted the baby. I don't say it's the womens fault it is certainly both. When it comes to health issues and such I understand. But just not fitting in to your life right then I don't. When it comes to adoption yes there are many kids who are not adopted but not babies. People wait years because babies are not available in the US. I've seen what abortions do and I've lived what life can be if you work at it. I hope I do not get put down for what I say but this is what I think and I did not and wont put down what others think I was simply answering the questions.


So you support the marketing of babies while waving a hand of dismissal at the "kids who are not adopted".

Where do you think those kids came from? Do you think they sprung out of the ground at age two?

I bet if Cambion were to comment, she'd say that you don't support abortion because you were forced into parenting so young and now you're bitter and think that everyone should have to "suck it up" like you had to. Very Happy
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Carifairy
replied on October 5th, 2007
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I think that those people should just adopt children that are already here...

ARE older children not as 'cute' or 'GOOD' as babies?

OH, they want a CHOICE....

WELL guess what ?

SO DO WE, good thing we have one...
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Verizon-y
replied on October 5th, 2007
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Re: Hi
Birch wrote:


futureshock wrote:


At least he's honest. Here lies what really bothers him, and also the majority of pro-lifers. It's not the abortion, it's the actions or supposed actions of the woman, before and after (apparently) the abortion.


Hey future, in a previous thread, embarrassed finally did come to the realization that since he is more forgiving of abortion if a woman was raped, that it is not so much about the fetus but about the woman and her actions.


AWESOME!
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anniek
replied on October 6th, 2007
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I do agree older children should be adopted. I just know most people want a baby. I can't help that. I'm not bitter, I was not pushed into being a parent when I was young my parents and in-laws left it up to us. Emotionally they have been totally supportive but left it to us to make a life for ourselves and we did. I know these kids do not pop out of the ground. People make mistakes it's life. But there are families out there for these children. I know of many in my own town who have stepped up and adopted "older" children. Including couples who can have their own but made the choice to have a child that needed a home. Your parents did not get rid of you because you didn't fit in their lives, maybe you where planned because they wanted a child to love. There are people who can't make that decision they CANT have children. I do understand your stand on this like I said before I'm just stating my stand and the things I've been through and seen. It affects so much more than just the baby or the mother.
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Birch
replied on October 6th, 2007
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anniek wrote:
I do agree older children should be adopted. I just know most people want a baby. I can't help that. I'm not bitter, I was not pushed into being a parent when I was young my parents and in-laws left it up to us. Emotionally they have been totally supportive but left it to us to make a life for ourselves and we did. I know these kids do not pop out of the ground. People make mistakes it's life. But there are families out there for these children. I know of many in my own town who have stepped up and adopted "older" children. Including couples who can have their own but made the choice to have a child that needed a home. Your parents did not get rid of you because you didn't fit in their lives, maybe you where planned because they wanted a child to love. There are people who can't make that decision they CANT have children. I do understand your stand on this like I said before I'm just stating my stand and the things I've been through and seen. It affects so much more than just the baby or the mother.


Having been there, one would think you'd be a little more empathetic.

It is not my, or yours, or anyone else's job to gestate babies so people who prefer to adopt infants can.

So what kind of life do you have now, if I may ask? I hope you are one of the successful ones.
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Verizon-y
replied on October 6th, 2007
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anniek,

were you and your dh in high school when you got pregnant? Did you guys finish school? Were you planning on going to college, either or both of you?
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anniek
replied on October 6th, 2007
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And I don't think parenting is for every one. And no not every one can do it or should. But they should give someone the chance to that can't. Oh and I forgot I do understand BC does not always work that is how I got pregnant. But I still chose to risk it by having sex. I would never be bitter about a child. A baby or an older child. But if you are not cut out to be a parent or don't want to be a parent there are other ways than to have abortions. Your risk of having medical problems go very high after even one abortion.
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embarrassed40
replied on October 6th, 2007
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Oh and I forgot I do understand BC does not always work that is how I got pregnant. But I still chose to risk it by having sex. I would never be bitter about a child.


Thank goodness someone makes sense here! Some females are willing to take the risk but unwilling to accept the consequences. That is not a good trait to bring into a marriage!

How someone could be bitter about having a child is also very odd and someone I would consider marrying.
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Verizon-y
replied on October 6th, 2007
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anniek wrote:
Your risk of having medical problems go very high after even one abortion.


Really? Like what?
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Verizon-y
replied on October 6th, 2007
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embarrassed40, why do you mention who you would consider marrying in so many of your posts? It creeps me out, personally.
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embarrassed40
replied on October 6th, 2007
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futureshock wrote:
embarrassed40, why do you mention who you would consider marrying in so many of your posts? It creeps me out, personally.


Sorry to "Creep you out". I am stating my opinion as a man that is not interested in marrying a woman with a frivolous abortion. I do not expect anyone here to be my future marriage partner, as I already have picked my next spouse. In addition to that, you appear to be out of the age range I would consider.

Good luck in your future endeavors.

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embarrassed40
replied on October 6th, 2007
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Birch wrote:
embarrassed40 wrote:
Birch wrote:
embarrassed40 wrote:
sexxybexxy wrote:
i see something that women want to see
happiness but guilt


At least you feel guilty! Most of these ladies act like they did nothing wrong and are all about the "Right"! Very sad, and definately not marriage material!


You able to get it up these days, embarrassed? Wink


After a brief period of sub-par function, after an acute illness, I am fully charged again. Thank goodness! There is no abortion qualification for bedding down with a woman. Only for a serious marital prospect, of which I already have one picked (No previous abortions)! Razz


That is good...I am glad. (I am being sincere. I would like to know what illness caused that, but I'm not sure this is the appropriate forum to ask in. However, if you wish to respond...go right ahead. Very Happy )

In other news, you relentlessly pound this marriage thing around like you're trying to prepare dough with it. It's pretty obvious that you're doing this to rile things up, and quite effectively, I might add, since Eiri is utterly incapable of not taking things personally.

Trolling does make for good reading.

Carry on.

futureshock wrote:


At least he's honest. Here lies what really bothers him, and also the majority of pro-lifers. It's not the abortion, it's the actions or supposed actions of the woman, before and after (apparently) the abortion.


Hey future, in a previous thread, embarrassed finally did come to the realization that since he is more forgiving of abortion if a woman was raped, that it is not so much about the fetus but about the woman and her actions.


I'd rather not talk of my specific health issue but thank you for the kind words.
Boy. Eiri sure does take everything so personal. It is difficult to state an opposing point of view without people getting their panties in a knot! I just don't understand some of the people here, that think they have an open mind! Rolling Eyes
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anniek
replied on October 6th, 2007
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If you would like to know the medical problems just goggle abortiong complications. I only know what my sister in law had happen. She is not good about going back to the dr so we are not sure all that is wrong. But she ended up in the hospital for a couple days about 2 months after. She was bleeding so bad she could barely make it to the ER 10 min away from her home. The nurse said she had never seen such large blood clots. She had a couple other minor problems but we really don't know if she will even be able to have more children if she wants to later. I only know of one thing she has suffered from which is endometriosis(sorry if that is not spelled right). But other than that she doesn't know because she did not go back after the hospital stay.
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anniek
replied on October 6th, 2007
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To Eiri. Why does the father have no right to be depressed? He didn't want to spend the rest of his life with her but wanted his baby. I don't know what it looked like I was stating something I had seen someone call it which I'm sure it does look like a ball of blood when you are not far along. I don't need to know what it looks like. I don't know how she feels about it because she won't talk about it to ANYONE. I just know by week 11 it starts to look like a very small human. I'm sorry I did not mean to insault anyone. I'm sure that is what they saw.
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Tylanas
replied on October 6th, 2007
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anniek wrote:
Your risk of having medical problems go very high after even one abortion.

Not true actually... it's much more dangerous to give birth! Shocked
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Tylanas
replied on October 6th, 2007
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anniek wrote:
To Eiri. Why does the father have no right to be depressed? He didn't want to spend the rest of his life with her but wanted his baby. I don't know what it looked like I was stating something I had seen someone call it which I'm sure it does look like a ball of blood when you are not far along. I don't need to know what it looks like. I don't know how she feels about it because she won't talk about it to ANYONE. I just know by week 11 it starts to look like a very small human. I'm sorry I did not mean to insault anyone. I'm sure that is what they saw.


"His" baby? He broke up with the mother aka his girlfriend! If he'd wanted to be in the baby's life then he should have talked to his girlfriend and worked things out, not break up with her when she needed him most. He could possibly have convinced her to adopt it over to him and make him a single parent and raise the child all by himself if he wanted it that badly. Since she aborted clearly she wanted nothing to do with it, and she shouldn't be forced to raise it just because HE wanted it.

Yes, it looks a bit like a tiny, human-ish kinda figure, but it is not large enough to see this well!! So the actual aborted remains do look like a ball of blood. I'll trust someone who works in a clinic over someone who's never actually seen an abortion.

I have NO sympathy for JERKS who dump girls when they become accidentally pregnant. Then these guys always cry when the girl aborts. Well, JERK, maybe you should have supported your girlfriend!
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Tylanas
replied on October 6th, 2007
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anniek wrote:
If you would like to know the medical problems just goggle abortiong complications. I only know what my sister in law had happen. She is not good about going back to the dr so we are not sure all that is wrong. But she ended up in the hospital for a couple days about 2 months after. She was bleeding so bad she could barely make it to the ER 10 min away from her home. The nurse said she had never seen such large blood clots. She had a couple other minor problems but we really don't know if she will even be able to have more children if she wants to later. I only know of one thing she has suffered from which is endometriosis(sorry if that is not spelled right). But other than that she doesn't know because she did not go back after the hospital stay.


Well honestly in this case it is not the doctor's fault your sister got sick. She should have gone back. Follow-up examinations are extremely important. They probably could have dealt with her problem early on and she would have been just fine.
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Birch
replied on October 6th, 2007
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Re: Hi
embarrassed40 wrote:


I'd rather not talk of my specific health issue but thank you for the kind words.
Boy. Eiri sure does take everything so personal. It is difficult to state an opposing point of view without people getting their panties in a knot! I just don't understand some of the people here, that think they have an open mind! Rolling Eyes


Uh, it's one thing to state your opinion, but you're a broken record dude. Laughing

Having an open mind means agreeing with everything I say, of course. Wink

Troll on, my friend.

anniek wrote:
If you would like to know the medical problems just goggle abortiong complications. I only know what my sister in law had happen. She is not good about going back to the dr so we are not sure all that is wrong. But she ended up in the hospital for a couple days about 2 months after. She was bleeding so bad she could barely make it to the ER 10 min away from her home. The nurse said she had never seen such large blood clots. She had a couple other minor problems but we really don't know if she will even be able to have more children if she wants to later. I only know of one thing she has suffered from which is endometriosis(sorry if that is not spelled right). But other than that she doesn't know because she did not go back after the hospital stay.


No wonder you have this ridiculous assessment of abortion. Your sis-in-law didn't follow up with her medical care and now you think abortion causes medical issues. I suppose everything that goes wrong with her reproductive system for ever and ever is going to be caused by her abortion.
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