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Q: Child Left In Car 8hrs
asked by: Birch on August 30th, 2007
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I'm going to leave a few details out for the sake of discussion, but tell me what you think so far:

(True story, current event.)

Mother leaves child in car for eight hours on one of our very, very hot days.

Child dies.

Is there any reason that would make it so she is not criminally charged with any crime?
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young Girl
replied on August 30th, 2007
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HELL NO Evil or Very Mad
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Birch
replied on August 30th, 2007
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the_girlfreind wrote:
HELL NO Evil or Very Mad


Tell us how you really feel, Suzy!! Laughing
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Jules
replied on August 30th, 2007
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Did the woman collapse and fall unconcsious and so was unable to remove her child from the car?

Was she mentally ill?
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young Girl
replied on August 30th, 2007
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lol

well that makes me extremely upset of course

but how is there any possible way that she didnt get charged and go to jail for this? i just dont see how she could walk away from something like that!
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Birch
replied on August 30th, 2007
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Jules wrote:
Did the woman collapse and fall unconcsious and so was unable to remove her child from the car?

Was she mentally ill?


No to all of the above.
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Jules
replied on August 30th, 2007
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Birch wrote:
Jules wrote:
Did the woman collapse and fall unconcsious and so was unable to remove her child from the car?

Was she mentally ill?


No to all of the above.


Maybe she was on medication that made her forget? Oh I don't know, I'm clutching at straws but I'm sorry, I believe someone who lets a DOG die in a hot car should be prosecuted so this woman should most definitely be sent down for a long, long time.
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TMJWorld
replied on August 30th, 2007
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Hey
to me that is irresponsable----i think they said she forgot she had a kid---how do you just up and forget you had a baby? This story made me so mad ----still does. Im so mad i could spit!(ok that probably wouldnt make me feel better)
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sillyakchick
replied on August 30th, 2007
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This happened at a local hospital here a few years back. Mother does not usually drop child off before work. Mother forgets to drop child off before work because child is quitely slin back of car in car seat. Mother goes to wiork, parks car, pulls a full shift as an RN, gets back to her carr and is horrified to find her child dead in back seat of car. I am not excusing, but I can TOTALLY see how this could heppen.
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Birch
replied on August 30th, 2007
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Yes, sillyakchick (It's Geneva, right?), that's similar to what happened here.

Were criminal charges pressed in the RN incident?
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More info on this incident:

The mother is an assistant principal who went to school with her two year old in the car seat. She was in meetings all day.

She "forgot". It was an "accident".

As of now, it is up in the air if she will be charged with reckless endangerment.
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sillyakchick
replied on August 30th, 2007
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Birch,

It's Heather. Geneva is my offfspring. Wink

No criminal charges were filed in the incident. Personally, I don't think criminal charges could have made the poor woman feel any worse about her situation than she already did. I compare this to accidentally running over your kid inthe driveway. It's a horrible thing, but sometimes it happens.
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Birch
replied on August 30th, 2007
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Hey, I was 50% right?

Since criminal charges aren't really about making someone feel worse than they already do, and she has killed a child, shouldn't something be done?

If I have a lapse in judgement and do something idiotic like run a red light, hit another car, and kill the driver, I'm going to be charged with something whether or not my past driving history is kosher, or how I feel. I really was just an fool for a minute, it was a pure accident.

In this situation, people are commenting because the car in question is a Mercedes Benz SUV, the family is very affluent, and the area of town is predominantly Caucasian upper middle class.
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replied on August 30th, 2007
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I think that regardless if she "forgot" that her child was in the back seat or not, she should still be charged. That is neglegence no matter how you look at it. It seems like it could be a plausible scenario and quite a believable one, but the fact still remains that you forgot about your child and that is being negligent.
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sillyakchick
replied on August 30th, 2007
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Birch wrote:
Hey, I was 50% right?

Since criminal charges aren't really about making someone feel worse than they already do, and she has killed a child, shouldn't something be done?

If I have a lapse in judgement and do something idiotic like run a red light, hit another car, and kill the driver, I'm going to be charged with something whether or not my past driving history is kosher, or how I feel. I really was just an fool for a minute, it was a pure accident.

In this situation, people are commenting because the car in question is a Mercedes Benz SUV, the family is very affluent, and the area of town is predominantly Caucasian upper middle class.


Sometimes i think that the punishment is also meant to give the family some satisfaction. In this case, it wasn't someone else's child, it was her own. I don't really know how I feel about this, except i am horrified and sorry for the family every time it does. What punishment would seem most fitting? As long as it wasn't intentional, we can rule out the obvious, homicide, child abuse, etc. Neglect maybe. Neglect resulting in death? Involuntary manslaughter? I don't know, but think about the rest of her family. If she were to go to jail, not only is the remainng family left without a brother/son/etc, but now their mother is gone too. And the wife of the man who lost his child.

If I accidentally ran over my neighbor's kid as i was backing out of the driveway, and they decide not to press charges because it was an accident, a mistake, canteh state still prosecute, or do they let it drop? I just don't know.

If this were something a person did on purpose "Oh I thought He's be safe in his car seat while I went to work/went shopping, etc" then I definitely think that's a different story.

Personally, I don't care what she did for a living, and I don't think that should be a factor in the end result at all. (but it always seems to be). Is that the crux of the story here? Nobody wants her to be punished because she was wealthy and was a high ranking school official?

Wasn't there a woman who left her kid in the car to work at McDonald's and her kid died? What became of that woman?
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Birch
replied on August 30th, 2007
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I believe the state can still press charges regardless of the wishes of the family. I think that is taken into account at sentencing, but it depends on the law/judges/circumstances.

I feel bad for her and her family, too, but pure accidents get 'punished' criminally all the time.

If she doesn't get charged, then what is the point of the criminal justice system? I mean, I could feel as bad as anything in the scenario I made up above, but I'm still going to get charged. I guess parents are given some kind of special leniency?

You'd think prolife advocates would be crawling all over this kind of story.
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replied on August 30th, 2007
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I still feel she should be punished. Not a horrible long time in jail or anything like that, but... god, can you imagine that incident from the viewpoint of the child? Absolutely terrifying, and just about one of the most painful ways to die, both emotionally and mentally. Just trying to imagine that makes me want to puke and cry and convulse. If I was that mother, I would want to be SHOT. I would want to die for doing that to my child. I would have a hard time living on; they'd have to commit me. So, I feel the mother should be punished.
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sillyakchick
replied on August 31st, 2007
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If it was me, my greif would be immeasurable and I too would want to die. It is truly awful.
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Birch
replied on August 31st, 2007
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Security cameras at the school show the mother returning to her car one time during this eight hour period, to retrieve doughnuts from the back of her car, right next to her daughter's seat.

Okay, obviously something is going on, a mental issue or something.

They are still up in the air if they are going to charge her with a crime!!

http://www.wlwt.com/news/14015420/detail.h tml
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sillyakchick
replied on August 31st, 2007
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OK If she went to the vehicle once and got donuts that were sitting right next to her then it was not an unfortunate accident. My guess is that this woman is sick or incredibly stupid. I am horrified! How could she do that INTENTIONALLY! I can't even think about it without getting sick to my stomach!
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Jules
replied on August 31st, 2007
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Oh God that's just so awful. I can't imagine what was going on there with the mother.

That poor little girl - god it just makes me cry, thinking of how she must have suffered - I bet all she wanted was her mommy to come and help her and that's the one person who bloody neglected her.

For a child to die alone and in pain like that makes me feel physically sick and SO SO ANGRY.

Crying or Very sad
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