Update

Hey Shorty - Im sorry to hear about your fil having another heart attack. I will pray for you guys and for your fil for a speady recovery.

Hopefully you and dh got in enough bding this time. I wanted to ask you about the cup, is it awkward to get it in and out? I was just wondering because I would think that it would be difficult.

I would post my chart, but it wouldn't show anything. I took everything with me to Maine (my thermometer and the opk's), but once I got up there, I didn't want to be bothered or consumed with it at all. I knew that I was going to be o'ing around tuesday so I just planned it around then. I took my temp on Tuesday morning just for kiks and it was on its way up to post o temps, and then again on Wednesday and it was way up there so I kinda figured that I o'ed on Tuesday. We bd'ed on Friday, Sat, Monday late night(he woke me up in the middle of the night) and then again on Wednesday. So hopefully it did the trick to not be obsessed about it. I am going to start temping tomorrow, or maybe today since I took my temp this morning.

Hope you guys are doing ok.

How was your vacation? Sounds like you and dh got in plenty of bding.

I think I o'd on Friday or Saturday, but my temps don't seem to agree. It had so much EWCM on Friday, that I felt wet most of the day. On Sat I had less EWCM but my opk was a little darker.

The cup is a bit awkward to get in and out. It's hard to tell if it is on there right when you first put it in, but you realize how well it is on when you take it out. I did buy some instead cups as well in case we wanted to do more than one try putting the spermies next to the cervix. We didn't end up doing that but I can tell you that the circumference of the instead cup is much bigger than the circumference of the conception cup. I suspect that leaks might be more common with the instead cup.

I think you have said that before about having EWCM but ovulation is not noted on the opk right? I have read that you can get EWCM more than once in your cycle. I have often wondered that myself about the CM. If when you get it does that mean that you are definitely o'ing or that you are on your way to o'ing? I have no idea but would like to know. I usually dont get much cm that I notice. I am checking my cervix and my cm internally, that is the only way that I know if I have any EWCM and even then it isnt much. I try to bd on the days that I notice EWCM as well as the days after I get a positive opk. I have been bd'ing the day that I get a positive opk or even the day that it is starting to show up on the stick. Then we bd every other day. I try to remember that, because I remember Negar saying that is what her doctor said to do. (I wonder where she went and how she is doing these days)

If you are going to try the instead cups, you should also purchace the non latex condoms. I think I read that latex has an adverse affect with the spermies. Are you guys using the latex free condoms that the conception kit comes with?

You are not that far behind me... I am supposed to start af on Sunday I think, so we will see. I have been haveing a ton of bloating and mild cramps. Yesterday I felt like I had done a 1000 crunches when I woke up and that feeling stayed with me all day. Today it isn't so noticable, but it feels like my stomach is still tight. And NO I haven't been doing sit-ups. (To lazy right now)

Vacation was wonderful. I am going to post about it today. The travel to and from was horrible, but the actual vacation was great.

Did you drive all the way up to Maine? I can see how that would be horrible. I don't like long drives at all. Did you eat a lot of lobster when you were there?

FF gave me cross hairs for an ovulation on cd 14. If that is correct, then my af is due on Sunday the 9th. Is that a week after you or the same day?

I think the tightness is a feeling that a lot of women get before a bfp. Keep my posted on any other symptoms.

My dh and I are going out of town for the long weekend. Hopefully that will be a good distraction from the 2ww.

The conception kit does come with non-latex condoms. I didn't actually purchase any condoms to use with the instead cup. I suppose we should unless we want to withdraw. I'll remember to get non-latex ones. They seem less elastic than latex ones.

No we didn't drive up there. Look in the Pregnancy Chat, I posted the whole story there. We ate tons of Lobster, like 5 times. I can't get enough of it.

Well I thought that I might have a chance this month, but no such luck. I woke up yesterday and had a little bit of blood and by the time I left for work, there was nothing and nothing all day long. So I was thinking maybe we did it and that it was implantation bleeding...NOPE. Last night I was woken up by some pretty bad cramps and this morning, she was here full force. I wasn't even supposed to start until Sunday. So that makes it a 23 day cycle. That is the shortest I have had. Usually they are around 26 days. I don't understand why I would have such a short cycle.

Oh well, I guess its on to September for me!!!

I'm sorry about af. I'll look for the Maine post on the other chat board.

As for me, we visited my fil at the hospital last night. When we were there, he had another episode. We were wheeling him down the hallway of the hospital and he started complaining that he couldn't breath. Next thing we knew all these nurses are running down the hall toward us yelling to get him back to his room. I had this overwhelming feeling of being in the way and I couldn't think of anything to do that would be useful, so I headed straight back to the room to find my mil. I thought that they would be right behind me but when I turned around, I saw them take him into a closer room.

As I approached I could hear them say that his heart stopped. My dh helped get him up onto a bed and then came out to join me and his mom. They called a code blue and there was such a scene that everyone on the floor came out of their rooms to see what was going on. They did CPR and got his heart going again. He was in such pain because his chest still has not heeled from the bypass surgery. He was groaning and the nurse asked him questions to find out where he hurt. He affirmed that it was his incision that hurt. The nurse told him that it was her fault that it hurt and that she had given him CPR because his heart stopped. He responded, "I appreciate it."

Those were the first words he spoke after being recussitated. It put a smile on our lips.

Anyway, they took him down to ICU and got him on a resperator. He has been heavily sedated since. We got a negative prognosis this morning. His heart is only operating at 20%. It is day by day right now, but it is unknown if he is strong enough to fight back from where he is.

I'm actually very worried about my dh. In fact, I feel like I am more emotional than anyone in his family. After the cardiac arrest when we were sitting in the waiting room, my dh's mom was telling his sister about our plans to go our of town for the weekend. In my mind, we were definitely cancelling those plans, but my dh and his mom seemed to act as if we were keeping our plans. We finally cancelled them this afternoon several hours after we heard the prognosis. I need to read about the stages of grief because I think this is sinking in slowly for my dh.

Anyway, we just got home and I was glad to take off the clothes I had been wearing for two days straight. I definitely have a huge distraction in my 2ww.

Wow, That sounds like you guys have been through the ringer and back. Im sorry to hear about your fil. I will pray for him to have a speedy recovery. Its good that you are there for your husband and your mil. Guys have a hard time processing emotions sometimes and its good that you are there to help him process them. And also to be there for your mil. Im sure she needs a good cry and you are a good person to be there for her.