Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 19 Location: Coral Springs, Fl
Solution to Almost 50 Million Uninsured Posted: 08-23-07 20:10pm
Choose a solution (or suggest your own)
and comment:
a) Keep our system just the way it is
b) Raise our taxes and give us Universal
Healthcare through the government
c) Privatized Healthcare that is mandatory
for all citizens.
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Tmddyan
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Re: Solution to Almost 50 Million Uninsured Posted: 08-28-07 12:55pm
DoorIn
wrote:
Choose a solution (or
suggest your own) and comment:
a) Keep our system just the way it is
b) Raise our taxes and give us Universal
Healthcare through the government
c) Privatized Healthcare that is mandatory
for all
citizens.
keep it the way it is and lower healthcare
costs. simple
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Carifairy
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Posted: 08-28-07 12:58pm
I buy my own health insurance..
I DO NOT want government healthcare. I
like MY doctors, and I like the good
quality care that I get from them.
I do not want any government interference
with healthcare.
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Tmddyan
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Hey Posted: 08-28-07 13:02pm
exactly! they leave stuff out not covered
anyway.
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DoorIn
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Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 19 Location: Coral Springs, Fl
Posted: 08-28-07 14:02pm
And what of the millions who either cannot
afford it or don't qualify for it? Not
everyone under the current system can get
Health Insurance, even if they want it and
can afford it.
Plus there are are nearly 50 million
people who don't have insurance. Many of
them are using our emergency rooms for
care. And guess what that does to the
cost of medical care.
You guessed it.
Our costs go up because of all the
uninsured americans.
It's my opinion that we need to keep
Health Insurance privatized, and out of
the hands of government. But government
can make it mandatory, just like they do
with auto insurance.
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Carifairy
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Posted: 08-28-07 16:25pm
I think we should have a 2 WAY system.
Let people like ME, who can afford our own
health insurance, use it, but also have a
system set up for those who cannot afford
health insurance.
On a side note, I think that if you cannot
afford healthcare, you should not be
having children and adding extra burden to
your family. That also raises costs,
because these people end up being welfare
users.
Healthcare is not a 'right', just like
owning a car is not a right.
I believe that at some point people need
to take responsibility for themselves.
I do not want to be forced to be covered
under any government plan.
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everyday_struggle
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 304
Posted: 09-24-07 18:01pm
Carifairy
wrote:
I think we should have a 2
WAY system.
Let people like ME, who can afford our own
health insurance, use it, but also have a
system set up for those who cannot afford
health insurance.
On a side note, I think that if you cannot
afford healthcare, you should not be
having children and adding extra burden to
your family. That also raises costs,
because these people end up being welfare
users.
Healthcare is not a 'right', just like
owning a car is not a right.
I believe that at some point people need
to take responsibility for themselves.
I do not want to be forced to be covered
under any government
plan.
people sometimes have children
unexpectedly, so saying, "well just dont
have children" is a bit naive. Also,
saying that healthcare is a not a right,
well it should be and comparing it to a
transportation vehicle, well, thats just
silly of you. I will not die if i dont
have a vehicle, but i surely will if i
dont have healthcare. I wish the
government would make it easier for people
like me who dont have healthcare, to get
it. Because i believe preventative care is
a lot better and less expensive than
healthcare
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 09-25-07 15:31pm
i dont qualify for it. the only things i
need it for are not qualifying aspects of
insurance.
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marvel
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Posted: 09-29-07 13:59pm
I'm Canadian, so I don't have the same
problem. We have universal healthcare
provided by each province and is funded
through our tax dollars. We don't have to
pay ANYTHING when we go to the doctor. It
varies from province to province, but
generally, the basics are covered. Here in
Ontario, we have to pay for dental,
optometrics, physiotherapists (when it's
not an emergency), and over the counter
drugs... all of which can be covered by
private insurance.
I have no qualms with it. Though
Canadians, on average, pay higher taxes, I
think it's overall worthwhile. There are
problems with our system as well, don't
get me wrong, but I like knowing that I
have a right to a standard of healthcare
regardless of financial standing.
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Georgia59
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Posted: 09-29-07 18:16pm
I'm totally for universal healthcare.
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Birch
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Posted: 09-29-07 18:43pm
Ideally, no one should have to die or
suffer because of money, especially in the
more industrialized nations of the world.
The US can award billions in contract
money for overseas operations but millions
of it's citizens cannot afford to go to
the doctor?
Limiting access to healthcare to only
those who can afford it and calling it a
priviledge is classist.
I do not know what the solution is, but I
know that the current solution is set up
for failure, pain, and suffering.
My family and I can afford it, we save
money and we are never denied, even with
pre-existing conditions.
We pay $49.95 per month for the household
medical/dental/vision/prescription/chiropr
actic/hospitalization and specialists.
As a matter of fact anyone who does not
meet the income requirements for
Medicare/Medicaid can afford it and even
some who do can as well.
I would post the link but that is against
the rules it appears, but if this is
something you could benefit from, feel
free to message me.
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jh11375
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 1
Need Health Insurance Posted: 11-08-07 22:46pm
I was lose my health insurance after I
switch the new job.(no more job on old
company).Then I get cover on Cobra for a
year(pay)
After I get cover from my wife's insurance
( 1199 SEIU),but , just a month,the UNION
told they don't get enought money then
kick me out.
I was lose the health insurance again.
I don't qualify for Low income insurance.
If I buy it from insurance company,It was
$ 4000.00 a MONTH for family plan.Who can
pay for $ 4000.00 a MONTH ?
THat mean I need to join the un-insurance
team.
What can I do?I can do nothing? If I get
sick I will get kill.
Bush send all our money to war but don't
want to pay back our money to our
health,it so bad.
What can we do......What can we do......
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playingbyheart
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Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 2
Healthcare Posted: 12-19-07 20:47pm
I'd go with C, but I think there needs to
be a government control of private
healthcare systems to make sure they do
not take advantage of people. They should
each receive a certain amount of tax
dollars from the government based on how
many high risk individuals they take into
their program.
Also, companies should not be allowed to
deny people coverage. If they are high
risk, they should have their specific
conditions not covered, but the people
should be able to at least be able to get
catastrophic insurance.
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ladylee70
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Posted: 12-22-07 10:52am
I encourage everyone to see Sicko by
Michael Moore! It is such a great, eye
opening moving.
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avengerki
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Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 3 Location: ,
Posted: 01-01-08 14:59pm
I like the consumer driven health care
idea. Its more of a catastrophic insurance
but includes your CDHP and HDHP. The HDHP
also gives the advantage of allowing you
to save money for future medical expenses.
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Carifairy
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Posted: 01-01-08 16:09pm
I have high blood pressure, athsma, and
crohns disease..
I am 5'6 and 125 pounds..
My health insurance IS expensive, but I
dis qualify for it.
MANY companies will insure people with
conditions, you need an agent to help you
figure out who can.
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yogahoneybunny
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Posted: 01-01-08 16:17pm
Carifairy
wrote:
Healthcare is not a 'right',
just like owning a car is not a right.
What about education? And access to safe
water? Or even food?
We are born and we die. Somewhere in
between I think that taking care of one
another is a evolved response to the human
experience. If not for compassion, how
else are we different than even the
animals who can understand the natural law
that the strong survive? It is simply a
lower path to "do it on your own" and
believe that cutting off others to save
yourself is right.
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Carifairy
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Posted: 01-01-08 16:48pm
It is not anyones job to FEED, clothe,
house, or take care of me. I BELIEVE that
each person is responsible for
themselves.
I understand falling on hard times and
needing a month or TWO of help, but that
should be it..IMO.
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bakin_april
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 210 Location: state of confusion, usa
Posted: 02-10-08 22:36pm
I've got health issues that demand lots of
doctor visits & meds with high co-pays
(there's no way I could buy most of them
without insurance.) My husband has
insurance on us through his job. I have
Medicare as a secondary insurer because
I'm on disability. My out of pocket
medical expenses in 2007 took up 80% of
the disability I received.
I'd love to see some kind of universal
health care, but my reaction is this:
Think about what our government has done
to our schools. They can't take care of
disaster victims properly or maintain our
infrastructure. What do you think they'd
do to healthcare??? I believe they'd run
it into the ground very quickly.
I believe those who could afford private
care would be getting prime medical care
from private physicians (many of which
would probably flee from government funded
practice as soon as univeral health care
laws were passed.) This would leave
everyone else to receive what I believe
will be second rate health care. Which
physicians will be in the government
health system? Probably not the best and
the brightest. What kinds of waits would
there be to get basic care? Would we have
to wait 8 months (as I heard is common in
Canada and Brittan) to have an MRI?
All I ask is that people think this
situation through before they make any
decisions.