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Q: Please Help: Bp Wife And Divorce
asked by: another_guy on August 23rd, 2007
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I am in a horrible divorce (1 child - married 2 years) with a woman who is BP. She has been diagnosed twice with BD but her most recent Psychiatrist says she is OCD, ADHD and has severe anxiety disorder and an auditory problem. I LOVE MY WIFE VERY MUCH, but she refuses to get another diagnosis. We started marriage counseling last week after my wifes and I requested it. It failed yesterday, with her yelling I am a liar.

I have a question about the behavior of BP:

Maybe some of you can help me.

When I talk to the counselor about the passionate time, she denies it happens and states I am making it up to get her in trouble. The counselor bypasses the bipolar issue (she has taken MMPI and TOVA she says) and states to trust the last psychiatrist. But as I read through these forums, I see so much of her. My wife is incredibly intelligent and doctors always comment that she knows to much.

She has periods of boasting, anger, periods of depression and fear. She has a horrible family life (parents). She has had thyroid issues. She will alienate me then love me passionately. She does not clean house and sometimes herself; has odd sleeping variations and vivid dreams that sometimes become physical (thrashing etc.).

I am a very laid back individual, i apologize to her constantly, but I cannot stand being manipulated. If she is not bi-polar then it must be base manipulation.

Is lying, paranoia and manipulation common in BP's?

It is probably to late but if you guys have any suggestions on the marriage portion please post. I would love any input for understanding the condition and advice.

Her meds are 10mg of Lexapro, i know of nothing else, she states nothing else.


Thanks,

From another heart broken man
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Birch
replied on August 23rd, 2007
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Re: Please Help: Bp Wife And Divorce
another_guy wrote:
I am in a horrible divorce (1 child - married 2 years) with a woman who is BP. She has been diagnosed twice with BD but her most recent Psychiatrist says she is OCD, ADHD and has severe anxiety disorder and an auditory problem. I LOVE MY WIFE VERY MUCH, but she refuses to get another diagnosis. We started marriage counseling last week after my wifes and I requested it. It failed yesterday, with her yelling I am a liar.

I have a question about the behavior of BP:

Maybe some of you can help me.

When I talk to the counselor about the passionate time, she denies it happens and states I am making it up to get her in trouble. The counselor bypasses the bipolar issue (she has taken MMPI and TOVA she says) and states to trust the last psychiatrist. But as I read through these forums, I see so much of her. My wife is incredibly intelligent and doctors always comment that she knows to much.

She has periods of boasting, anger, periods of depression and fear. She has a horrible family life (parents). She has had thyroid issues. She will alienate me then love me passionately. She does not clean house and sometimes herself; has odd sleeping variations and vivid dreams that sometimes become physical (thrashing etc.).

I am a very laid back individual, i apologize to her constantly, but I cannot stand being manipulated. If she is not bi-polar then it must be base manipulation.

Is lying, paranoia and manipulation common in BP's?

It is probably to late but if you guys have any suggestions on the marriage portion please post. I would love any input for understanding the condition and advice.

Her meds are 10mg of Lexapro, i know of nothing else, she states nothing else.


Thanks,

From another heart broken man


I'm sorry about your troubles. That sounds like a very chaotic environment. You have to ask yourself if you want to to continue living this way; is it worth it, and is it worth subjecting your child to this environment as well. Only you can answer that.

What is the length of time she has been seen by her doctor? There is a six month observational requirement in order to properly diagnose someone.

Here is an excellent reference site on bipolar disorder:
http://www.fortunecity.com/campus/psycholo gy/781/dsm.htm

It also sound like she has some borderline features, too:
http://www.borderlinepersonalitytoday.com/ main/dsmiv.htm

In my personal interactions with BP folks I have found them to be generally very intelligent, witty, and fun to be around when manic. They can also be very manipulative and dishonest.

In my personal interactions with BPD folks I have found that their lives are flooded by chaos, it's almost as if the room's oxygen is swept up and it's exhausting dealing witht hem. They are also very, very manipulative, dishonest, and refuse to take the blame for anything.

I would take your wife to a reputable psychiatrist and continue her care with that one doctor for a long period of time so you can get an accurate diagnosis.

Best of luck to you!
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another_guy
replied on August 23rd, 2007
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Thanks for the reply, sometimes I really wonder if I am the crazy one in this relationship, everybody seems to ignore her behavior at the counseling. Her former doctor saw her less then 4 months, I don't know the exact dates, I know very little actually, except what I observed and she has said (thanks for the links).
There is another question I have: is Lexapro an anti depressant or a mood stabilizer. My counselor refers to it as a mood stabilizer and says I don't know what I am talking about, when I tell him that is what I read.
Also are there any good resources/support for spouses of BP individuals?

Thanks again for the response
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Birch
replied on August 23rd, 2007
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another_guy wrote:
Thanks for the reply, sometimes I really wonder if I am the crazy one in this relationship, everybody seems to ignore her behavior at the counseling. Her former doctor saw her less then 4 months, I don't know the exact dates, I know very little actually, except what I observed and she has said (thanks for the links).
There is another question I have: is Lexapro an anti depressant or a mood stabilizer. My counselor refers to it as a mood stabilizer and says I don't know what I am talking about, when I tell him that is what I read.
Also are there any good resources/support for spouses of BP individuals?

Thanks again for the response


I am sure you are not "the crazy one"; that is probably a clever manipulation on her part to control your thoughts and feelings.

Because your wife has shown herself to be dishonest in the past, she could be dishonest with you about her current treatment and past diagnoses. It is really, really difficult getting to the bottom of this kind of thing because privacy laws will not even allow you, the husband, to find out information without her consent. However, it is reasonably certain that only one doctor who only saw her for four months could not make an accurate diagnosis. I used to work in a psychiatric unit of a major metropolitan hospital. Treatment teams would disagree about someone's diagnosis, and we would get to know them over the course of six months or so.

Lexapro is a multitasking drug for the treatment of depression (MDD-major depressive disorder) and it's an anti-anxiety medication. It blocks the "happy juice" -serotonin-in the brain so that the levels stay the same-keeping people from swinging down or up.

I do not know where you are, but the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) http://www.nami.org/ provides tons of resources and support for family and individuals suffering from mental illness. They are very active where I am at, Ohio, and you can meet face to face, online, on the phone, etc. They are a fantastic resource and I hope you find support.

Best wishes.
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another_guy
replied on August 24th, 2007
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I can not tell you how much you have helped me Birch. There is a local branch of NAMI here and I am going to contact the branch. Thank you very much, the advice and support is very much appreciated. I am trying to make an informed, wise decision (and hopefully correct), about my son, my wife and my future.

another_guy

(Note: I live in Alabama)
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Birch
replied on August 24th, 2007
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I'm glad to hear I could be helpful for you, and that you will contact NAMI. That is an excellent organization!

Best of luck!
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