Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 67 Location: texas, america
Can a True Alcoholic Quit Cold Turkey ? Posted: 08-13-07 16:29pm
left my guy all of three weeks he quit
drinking proposed and went 1000 or more
miles to go get me and bring me home...my
Dad ...alonon guy says he does not think
my virgo ever was an alcoholic just
someone with a drinking problem?
so can he just of stopped and will he ever
go back to it and be able to use
responsibly (he only drinks beer)when he
does?
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shadowalker164
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 175 Location: Tampa, FL
Posted: 08-14-07 10:13am
Just someone with a drinking problem?....
Wazzy, you left him because of his
drinking. And you are asking if we think
he can just quit cold turkey. And in
almost the same breath you ask if he can
learn to drink responsibly at some point
in the future.
Don’t answer this as yourself, pretend
you are a stranger reading your post for
the first time, not as someone in love
with this guy, what would you make of it?
Every line in your post talks about a life
punctuated with excessive use of alcohol.
Double check with your dad, tell him the
whole story, all of it. Leave nothing out.
See if he still gives this guy the
“heavy drinker” label.
I would wish you good luck, but in
reality, luck has nothing to do with it.
Richard
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wazzywoman4ever
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 67 Location: texas, america
I See Your Point Posted: 08-14-07 10:42am
Point taken , your sir are very good at
what you do and in retrospect I must of
just wanted to connect with you and
obviously not very well .let me try again
.......
I am a forty six year old woman with no
drug habits or abuses trying to make a
life with an alcoholic who has stopped
drinking to give our relationship a chance
we are to gether all the time and unless
he is at work and some one is suppling him
for free he has stopped drinking beer
.........I keep lots of lemonade and other
drinks made up and ready to go these he
drinks now .....so can you tell me what
his success rate might be if his life
becomes one where he is appreciated and
loved and has the devotion of a good woman
who only wants him to enjoy a healthier
lifestyle and get back his joy in living?I
know I am the type of person who would
rather suffer than lose and while I enjoy
the break from his drink I know it could
all end for little or no reason by his
choice. but that bridge is not one I have
to cross yet ...could ask you for
insight top give myself a headsup in the
mind of an alcoholic to give me an edge
for success in our relationship ? would
you be so kind as to help me in that
endeaver sir? truth is always better and
you give it full flavor no holding back
....I dont believe I can do this on a
sugar coated version and would rather hear
it from one who knows and is not afraid to
tell it.
Okay Richard does this seem more honest an
attempt to communicate ? thanbk you
robin/wazzywoman
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shadowalker164
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 175 Location: Tampa, FL
Don't Mean to Offend... Posted: 08-15-07 09:25am
Robin… if I offended you I am truly
sorry. That was not my intention. I only
wanted to help. Sometimes I am a bit
caustic, it is a flaw in my character.
My wife is much like you. She doesn’t
drink, I don’t think she has had 3
drinks in the last year, and she has never
done an illegal drug in her life. And as
odd as this sounds, she seems quite happy.
She is what we in AA call an earth person.
Someone quite different than us. She
doesn’t drink because when she has two
drinks, she doesn’t like the feeling.
She tells me she feels like she is loosing
control, and she just stops.
I on the other hand, drank like a fish.
And I have gotten strung out on just about
every class of illegal drug out there. I
don’t think like she does. Not even
close. After a few drinks, I never thought
I was loosing control. I thought I was
getting control. An absolutely 180º
difference in thinking.
Alcohol can’t do anything TO me (turn me
into a drunken looser) unless it does
something FOR me first. And what it does
FOR me that it doesn’t do for my wife,
is to turn this world from a drab
colorless existence into a Technicolor
wonderland.
This world didn’t start out drab,. When
I was a kid, it looked just fine. But I
found alcohol, and after a drink or two,
everything got so much better. I became
more complete and confident, and everybody
else became smaller and less of a threat.
Who wouldn’t go back to something that
did all that?
And that’s just what I did. And after a
long enough period of doing just that, the
world as it truly is got more and more
unattractive and a good buzz got more
attractive. I was on the road to becoming
a full blown alcoholic.
But that is just my story. I don’t know
your boyfriend from Adam, he may never
touch another drink for the rest of his
life. Maybe your daddy is right that he
just hit a rough spot and everything is
going to be fine from here on out. I hope
so.
The love of a good woman is powerful
medicine.
If your boyfriend is just a guy who likes
a few brews with the boys after work, you
and he are home free.
But if he is one of us…. He will
understand the “drab colorless existence
into a Technicolor wonderland” metaphor
I used. And if he does nothing but just
stop drinking, every day that goes by
without the ease and comfort of a drink or
two will be like a prison sentence to him.
He will not be happy in his sobriety, and
in all probability, it won’t last.
But, if he is one of us, his chances go
way, way up if he gets into a recovery
program, any recovery program. The worse
thing he can do is to try to battle this
thing solo. Trying to play it John Wayne
style, a rough, tough guy who doesn’t
need any help is the hardest way to get
sober that I know about. We stay sober
together, we go back out alone, all by
ourselves.
Here is my suggestion for you. Do
everything you are doing now, good diet,
etc. it’s all a good idea. But be ready
to play the tough love card if he comes
home drunk. Don’t protect him from the
weight of the consequences of the choices
he makes.
Make a set of rules and stick to them. If
he can’t come in the house drunk, he
can’t come in the house drunk. Don’t
cover for him at work, don’t post bail
for him. You fill in the rest.
Oh, one parting thought, you said your
father was involved in AlAnon, look into
it yourself. It is populated with women
just like you, women who love guys that
drink too much.
Again, sorry for the length, but you are
asking the right questions and deserve
answers to them.
Richard
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wazzywoman4ever
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 67 Location: texas, america
Richard Like I Said Posted: 08-15-07 10:26am
your very good at this and it was not your
fault I didn't get my right questions out
first .
I have the number and the address and the
alanon is my next option to explore ...him
getting back into AA is up to him ...I am
gonna mention it but not pushing it...I am
glad for that one ray of hope I got out of
you for us ....and the truth that it may
well be short lived .... earth person hmmm
yeah I am too ...drink takes my balance
away it puts me under an ocean and adds
wieght to my efforts to move and the next
day my body wants to disown me and I want
to let it ........I just never felt better
with the drink of anykind and could always
do with less .....I am subjected to second
hand smoke but thats it ......thank you
again this last post from you was awsome .
appreciate it tons.wazzywoman
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StellaAnne
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Posts: 3
Take Away the Philosophical Response And Answer Me This Posted: 09-08-07 19:06pm
Can an alcoholic quit drinking cold turkey
without medical consequences?
For the past 7 months I've gone in and out
of drinking heavily. A few months of a
12-pack of beer 4-5 nights a week. A few
months of drinking 1 twelve pack a week,
back to drinking heavily the 12 pack 3-4
times a week. AND of course, now cocaine
has now entered the picture.
Forget the addiction/alcholic issues. And
I realize that no one here is an expert
and I need to get this answered by my
physician/addiction specialist....I'm just
curious....at what point do we physically
need medicall intervention to get alcohol
out of our system. I'm not willing to
risk my health so I will do what the
professionals in my life suggest but until
I do that (no lectures, I know the
realities) does anyone know, for the
average human being, how risky is it to
try and go cold turkey on your own. I'm
not asking if it's possible to quit on
your own.....I know that answer....I'm
only interested in the clinical answer.
Hopefully, I've expressed my question
clearly and someone will have some info.
I'll post the addiction/alcoholic issues
and more about me later.
Facts, maam, just the facts.
Thanks
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UCanQuit
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 109 Location: SEATTLE
Posted: 09-08-07 20:01pm
Stella ,
People quit drinking cold turkey everyday.
There may be some withdrawal symptoms and
they make you uncomfortable for a few
days, but it because your body is re
adjusting to the removal of the poison
that you have put into your body.
We have all heard the saying when ordering
a drink, "What's your poison?" That is
because that is what alcohol essentially
is...poison. It is organic matter such as
grapes, barley, potatoes, rice etc., that
is past rotten. It is fermented.
The real health risk is to continue
drinking, not quitting drinking.
If you get to the point where you need
medical intervention to quit drinking, you
will know it. You won't need to ask.
Stevie Ray Vaughn was a hard core
alcoholic that put cocaine into his
drinks. He pratcied that ritual for years
and years. He quit all drugs (except
smoking), because one day he was on his
way to get his "morning drink" and started
throwing up blood. He had to be taken to a
hospital.
That is definately the point where
someone needs medical help.
From the sounds of it, I don't think that
you're any where near that point. This is
the good news, for you have the chance to
arrest this addiction before it gets way
out of control.