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Gardasil; Yay Or Nay? Posted: 08-13-07 15:33pm
Hello everyone; this is my first (oops,
second!) post on these forums, and I wish
it could have been under better
circumstances.
At the moment, I'm scared out of my wits;
I went into my doctor's office two days
ago to receive my meningitis vaccination
(I'm starting college in less than a
week), and my doctor mentioned Gardasil,
which is a new vaccine for preventing
certain strands of HPV (Human
Papillomavirus).
I thought it would be a good idea to get
the first injection out of the way, so I
got them both that day.
Now I wish I had done my research first.
I've found both good and bad things about
this new vaccine, and I've been worrying
myself sick over the debate since I, out
of curiosity, starting looking it up last
night. I'm an eighteen-year-old, female,
and in good health. I have no particular
reason for worrying this much about it,
but not only do I already have a vaccine
phobia, but medicines in general make me
squirmy.
Hey, I don't even take Tylenol if I can
help it.
But I would like to hear the views of
other people on this forum. Thanks for
your time.
(And I'm sorry if this is in the wrong
forum, I browsed for awhile looking for
the right place.)
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sillyakchick
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Posted: 08-13-07 15:51pm
Personally, I won't do it for my children
just because it has not been researched
and I think the drug company has been
overzealous in marketing this new vaccine
as a wonder drug to prevent cancer. In
truth, It does NOT protect against most of
the strains of HPV which people more
commonly get. It DOEES prtect against
SOME of the strains which are linked to
cancer, but I think the way they have
marketed the vaccine has been purposely
misleading.
However, you already had the vaccine, so
there is not much that you can do about it
now. Out of curiosity, what are your
concerns?
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amethyst eyes
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Posted: 08-13-07 16:10pm
Their are two more shots she needs to get
to complete the vaccine. I would
personally get if if it would help me
(won't now). I do not think you have to
much to worry about but if you notice
anything then contact your doctor
immediately.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 08-13-07 16:17pm
Because I am now single and don't intend
to be a nun, I am going to get this
vaccine. I like vaccines. I understand not
abusing medicine and I certainly don't,
but I think most vaccines are different
from taking a pill for everything from
sexual dysfunction to depression.
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Crazeh_Sunshine
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Posted: 08-13-07 16:20pm
sillyakchick
wrote:
However, you already had the
vaccine, so there is not much that you can
do about it now. Out of curiosity, what
are your
concerns?
Yeah, nothing I can really do now...
though I am taking this as a lesson well
learned.
I'm concerned mainly about long term
side-effects. When I went into the office
a couple of days ago, I assumed that they
had done this sort of research... but I
now feel that there hasn't been enough
work done to ensure that this wont affect
people's health negatively in the future.
I agree that the company has been somewhat
fishy about their advertising of the
vaccine. I've found lists of side-effects
online that were not mentioned in any
pamphlet or on the Merck website, and that
worries me. There have been cases of
16-year-olds losing consciousness after
getting vaccinated.
I think I'm more paranoid than anything,
but the possibilities worry me.
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Crazeh_Sunshine
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Posted: 08-13-07 16:21pm
iridescent_opal
wrote:
Their are two more shots she
needs to get to complete the vaccine. I
would personally get if if it would help
me (won't now). I do not think you have
to much to worry about but if you notice
anything then contact your doctor
immediately.
Yeah, I'm considering not getting the next
two... I'll have to see how I feel about
it.
I plan to, though thank you for the advice
<3.
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Crazeh_Sunshine
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Posted: 08-13-07 16:22pm
Eiri
wrote:
Because I am not single and
don't intend to be a nun, I am going to
get this vaccine. I like vaccines. I
understand not abusing medicine and I
certainly don't, but I think most vaccines
are different from taking a pill for
everything from sexual dysfunction to
depression.
True... thank you for your feedback!
I think part of my whole paranoia on this
is because of my vaccine fear...
(And I like the L icon <3.)
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Tylanas
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Posted: 08-13-07 16:25pm
Crazeh_Sunshine
wrote:
Eiri
wrote:
Because I am now single and
don't intend to be a nun, I am going to
get this vaccine. I like vaccines. I
understand not abusing medicine and I
certainly don't, but I think most vaccines
are different from taking a pill for
everything from sexual dysfunction to
depression.
True... thank you for your feedback!
I think part of my whole paranoia on this
is because of my vaccine fear...
(And I like the L icon
<3.)
He's great ^^ By the way, I meant "because
I am NOW", instead of "NOT".
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amethyst eyes
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Posted: 08-13-07 16:28pm
As long as you don't feel any negative
side effects you might as well go through
with it. Cervical Cancer can be a very
bad thing, especially if not caught early.
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Ingi
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Posted: 08-13-07 16:29pm
I would get this vaccine, but I can't now.
It is too late. I've already had cervical
cancer. Knowing I wouldn't wish this on
anyone, especially my daughter!, I will be
getting her the vaccine as well.
It is way better than death. Fear of
death. Fear of losing your fertility, etc.
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Crazeh_Sunshine
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Posted: 08-13-07 19:43pm
Eiri
wrote:
He's great ^^ By the way, I
meant "because I am NOW", instead of
"NOT".
I was watching Death Note for awhile, but
never finished it... I'm still
disappointed with myself for that!
Ah, and noted :3.
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Crazeh_Sunshine
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Posted: 08-13-07 19:45pm
iridescent_opal
wrote:
As long as you don't feel
any negative side effects you might as
well go through with it. Cervical Cancer
can be a very bad thing, especially if not
caught early.
I'm still thinking about it, but I have
also heard about Cervical Cancer itself...
though, since I've already gotten the
first, I suppose you're right.
Ingi
wrote:
I would get this vaccine,
but I can't now. It is too late. I've
already had cervical cancer. Knowing I
wouldn't wish this on anyone, especially
my daughter!, I will be getting her the
vaccine as well.
It is way better than death. Fear of
death. Fear of losing your fertility,
etc.
I'm very sorry to hear that... thank you
for your opinion though, I appreciate it!
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Tylanas
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Posted: 08-13-07 20:33pm
Crazeh_Sunshine
wrote:
Eiri
wrote:
He's great ^^ By the way, I
meant "because I am NOW", instead of
"NOT".
I was watching Death Note for awhile, but
never finished it... I'm still
disappointed with myself for that!
Ah, and noted
:3.
*gasp* I couldn't wait for the last
episodes to be fan-subbed lol.
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Crazeh_Sunshine
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Posted: 08-15-07 01:05am
I was like that too! I watched closely for
every new episode, but then I just got
busy... now I regret it. But I am looking
forward to seeing how they handle the
dub.
(Hee, I guess this a little off-topic...)
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kingcop512
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Gardasil Posted: 09-04-07 12:55pm
I have been researching vaccines for about
20 years. During that time I have yet to
encounter a vaccine that is safe or
effective. No one has yet been able to
explain how injecting known toxins like
formaldehyde and/or thermerasol into a
person can prevent any disease. They also
have aborted human fetal tissue cells in
some of these vaccines. In the case of
gardasil, at lest 5 women have dropped
dead right after getting the vaccine. Long
term harm from the vaccine is not known at
this time. What is known is that A total
of 1,930 reported Gardasil adverse events
involved administration of Gardasil alone,
and 135 adverse events involved
co-administration of Gardasil with
Menactra. I would never recommend a
vaccine for anything.
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Georgia59
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Re: Gardasil Posted: 09-04-07 13:54pm
kingcop512
wrote:
I have been researching
vaccines for about 20 years. During that
time I have yet to encounter a vaccine
that is safe or effective. No one has yet
been able to explain how injecting known
toxins like formaldehyde and/or
thermerasol into a person can prevent any
disease. They also have aborted human
fetal tissue cells in some of these
vaccines. In the case of gardasil, at lest
5 women have dropped dead right after
getting the vaccine. Long term harm from
the vaccine is not known at this time.
What is known is that A total of 1,930
reported Gardasil adverse events involved
administration of Gardasil alone, and 135
adverse events involved co-administration
of Gardasil with Menactra. I would never
recommend a vaccine for
anything.
I have to argue with this... you can't
just say vaccines aren't effective.
Smallpox? Rubella? Polio? Debilitating
(life threatening) diseases that have all
been almost completely or completely
eradicated with vaccines.....
I have to admit I am skeptical about
Gardisil mostly because it's so damn
expensive but you can't just say all
vaccines are bad.
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Crazeh_Sunshine
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Re: Gardasil Posted: 09-04-07 14:11pm
kingcop512
wrote:
In the case of gardasil, at
lest 5 women have dropped dead right after
getting the
vaccine.
If if isn't too much trouble, could you
give me your source for this information?
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nightangel73
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Re: Gardasil Posted: 09-04-07 20:53pm
kingcop512
wrote:
I have been researching
vaccines for about 20 years. During that
time I have yet to encounter a vaccine
that is safe or effective. No one has yet
been able to explain how injecting known
toxins like formaldehyde and/or
thermerasol into a person can prevent any
disease. They also have aborted human
fetal tissue cells in some of these
vaccines. In the case of gardasil, at lest
5 women have dropped dead right after
getting the vaccine. Long term harm from
the vaccine is not known at this time.
What is known is that A total of 1,930
reported Gardasil adverse events involved
administration of Gardasil alone, and 135
adverse events involved co-administration
of Gardasil with Menactra. I would never
recommend a vaccine for
anything.
If Gardasil was just this toxic it
wouldn't be in the market..
I take all the vaccines that I can find.
Glad my company give the hepatitis one and
I'm glad I did the blood testing to make
sure I assimilated the chicken pox one, I
got two shots of that one. I'm terrified
of chickenpox and it can be deadly if you
get it as an adult... If I ever have a
girl I will for sure tell her to get that
gardasil vaccine..
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Rodge
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Posted: 09-05-07 08:03am
You have fun with that smallpox, KingCop!
I mean, assuming you'd prefer to live in a
world where Edward Jenner just said 'Ah,
screw it' and gave up and smallpox is
still a huge epidemic problem. Or maybe
Punch was right and the smallpox vaccine
really did turn people into cows.
Also cite your sources. I want links, and
not to wikipedia or
idiotsagainstwomennotgettingcervicalcancer
.com or anything like that.
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Georgia59
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Posted: 09-05-07 08:13am
But seriously? $150 per shot? And you need
three, so $400 total?
I guess I can't afford to prevent cervical
cancer.
And of course, there are no generics
available, just the Gardasil brand.....
