General Debate Forum - Gardasil; Yay Or Nay?

sillyakchick

replied on August 13th, 2007

Extremely eHealthy

Personally, I won't do it for my children just because it has not been researched and I think the drug company has been overzealous in marketing this new vaccine as a wonder drug to prevent cancer. In truth, It does NOT protect against most of the strains of HPV which people more commonly get. It DOEES prtect against SOME of the strains which are linked to cancer, but I think the way they have marketed the vaccine has been purposely misleading.

However, you already had the vaccine, so there is not much that you can do about it now. Out of curiosity, what are your concerns?

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amethyst eyes

replied on August 13th, 2007

Extremely eHealthy

Their are two more shots she needs to get to complete the vaccine. I would personally get if if it would help me (won't now). I do not think you have to much to worry about but if you notice anything then contact your doctor immediately.

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Tylanas

replied on August 13th, 2007

Especially eHealthy

Because I am now single and don't intend to be a nun, I am going to get this vaccine. I like vaccines. I understand not abusing medicine and I certainly don't, but I think most vaccines are different from taking a pill for everything from sexual dysfunction to depression.

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Crazeh_Sunshine

replied on August 13th, 2007

New User

sillyakchick wrote:

However, you already had the vaccine, so there is not much that you can do about it now. Out of curiosity, what are your concerns?

Yeah, nothing I can really do now... though I am taking this as a lesson well learned.

I'm concerned mainly about long term side-effects. When I went into the office a couple of days ago, I assumed that they had done this sort of research... but I now feel that there hasn't been enough work done to ensure that this wont affect people's health negatively in the future.

I agree that the company has been somewhat fishy about their advertising of the vaccine. I've found lists of side-effects online that were not mentioned in any pamphlet or on the Merck website, and that worries me. There have been cases of 16-year-olds losing consciousness after getting vaccinated.

I think I'm more paranoid than anything, but the possibilities worry me.

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Crazeh_Sunshine

replied on August 13th, 2007

New User

iridescent_opal wrote:

Their are two more shots she needs to get to complete the vaccine. I would personally get if if it would help me (won't now). I do not think you have to much to worry about but if you notice anything then contact your doctor immediately.

Yeah, I'm considering not getting the next two... I'll have to see how I feel about it.

I plan to, though thank you for the advice <3.

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Crazeh_Sunshine

replied on August 13th, 2007

New User

Eiri wrote:

Because I am not single and don't intend to be a nun, I am going to get this vaccine. I like vaccines. I understand not abusing medicine and I certainly don't, but I think most vaccines are different from taking a pill for everything from sexual dysfunction to depression.

True... thank you for your feedback!

I think part of my whole paranoia on this is because of my vaccine fear...

(And I like the L icon <3.)

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Tylanas

replied on August 13th, 2007

Especially eHealthy

Crazeh_Sunshine wrote:

Eiri wrote:

Because I am now single and don't intend to be a nun, I am going to get this vaccine. I like vaccines. I understand not abusing medicine and I certainly don't, but I think most vaccines are different from taking a pill for everything from sexual dysfunction to depression.

True... thank you for your feedback!

I think part of my whole paranoia on this is because of my vaccine fear...

(And I like the L icon <3.)

He's great ^^ By the way, I meant "because I am NOW", instead of "NOT".

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amethyst eyes

replied on August 13th, 2007

Extremely eHealthy

As long as you don't feel any negative side effects you might as well go through with it. Cervical Cancer can be a very bad thing, especially if not caught early.

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Mabel

replied on August 13th, 2007

Moderator

I would get this vaccine, but I can't now. It is too late. I've already had cervical cancer. Knowing I wouldn't wish this on anyone, especially my daughter!, I will be getting her the vaccine as well.

It is way better than death. Fear of death. Fear of losing your fertility, etc.

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Crazeh_Sunshine

replied on August 13th, 2007

New User

Eiri wrote:

He's great ^^ By the way, I meant "because I am NOW", instead of "NOT".

I was watching Death Note for awhile, but never finished it... I'm still disappointed with myself for that!

Ah, and noted :3.

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Crazeh_Sunshine

replied on August 13th, 2007

New User

iridescent_opal wrote:

As long as you don't feel any negative side effects you might as well go through with it. Cervical Cancer can be a very bad thing, especially if not caught early.

I'm still thinking about it, but I have also heard about Cervical Cancer itself... though, since I've already gotten the first, I suppose you're right.

Ingi wrote:

I would get this vaccine, but I can't now. It is too late. I've already had cervical cancer. Knowing I wouldn't wish this on anyone, especially my daughter!, I will be getting her the vaccine as well.

It is way better than death. Fear of death. Fear of losing your fertility, etc.

I'm very sorry to hear that... thank you for your opinion though, I appreciate it!

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Tylanas

replied on August 13th, 2007

Especially eHealthy

Crazeh_Sunshine wrote:

Eiri wrote:

He's great ^^ By the way, I meant "because I am NOW", instead of "NOT".

I was watching Death Note for awhile, but never finished it... I'm still disappointed with myself for that!

Ah, and noted :3.

*gasp* I couldn't wait for the last episodes to be fan-subbed lol.

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Crazeh_Sunshine

replied on August 15th, 2007

New User

I was like that too! I watched closely for every new episode, but then I just got busy... now I regret it. But I am looking forward to seeing how they handle the dub.

(Hee, I guess this a little off-topic...)

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kingcop512

replied on September 4th, 2007

New User

Gardasil

I have been researching vaccines for about 20 years. During that time I have yet to encounter a vaccine that is safe or effective. No one has yet been able to explain how injecting known toxins like formaldehyde and/or thermerasol into a person can prevent any disease. They also have aborted human fetal tissue cells in some of these vaccines. In the case of gardasil, at lest 5 women have dropped dead right after getting the vaccine. Long term harm from the vaccine is not known at this time. What is known is that A total of 1,930 reported Gardasil adverse events involved administration of Gardasil alone, and 135 adverse events involved co-administration of Gardasil with Menactra. I would never recommend a vaccine for anything.

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Georgia59

replied on September 4th, 2007

Especially eHealthy

Re: Gardasil

kingcop512 wrote:

I have been researching vaccines for about 20 years. During that time I have yet to encounter a vaccine that is safe or effective. No one has yet been able to explain how injecting known toxins like formaldehyde and/or thermerasol into a person can prevent any disease. They also have aborted human fetal tissue cells in some of these vaccines. In the case of gardasil, at lest 5 women have dropped dead right after getting the vaccine. Long term harm from the vaccine is not known at this time. What is known is that A total of 1,930 reported Gardasil adverse events involved administration of Gardasil alone, and 135 adverse events involved co-administration of Gardasil with Menactra. I would never recommend a vaccine for anything.

I have to argue with this... you can't just say vaccines aren't effective.

Smallpox? Rubella? Polio? Debilitating (life threatening) diseases that have all been almost completely or completely eradicated with vaccines.....

I have to admit I am skeptical about Gardisil mostly because it's so damn expensive but you can't just say all vaccines are bad.

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Crazeh_Sunshine

replied on September 4th, 2007

New User

Re: Gardasil

kingcop512 wrote:

In the case of gardasil, at lest 5 women have dropped dead right after getting the vaccine.

If if isn't too much trouble, could you give me your source for this information?

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nightangel73

replied on September 4th, 2007

Extremely eHealthy

Re: Gardasil

kingcop512 wrote:

I have been researching vaccines for about 20 years. During that time I have yet to encounter a vaccine that is safe or effective. No one has yet been able to explain how injecting known toxins like formaldehyde and/or thermerasol into a person can prevent any disease. They also have aborted human fetal tissue cells in some of these vaccines. In the case of gardasil, at lest 5 women have dropped dead right after getting the vaccine. Long term harm from the vaccine is not known at this time. What is known is that A total of 1,930 reported Gardasil adverse events involved administration of Gardasil alone, and 135 adverse events involved co-administration of Gardasil with Menactra. I would never recommend a vaccine for anything.

If Gardasil was just this toxic it wouldn't be in the market..

I take all the vaccines that I can find. Glad my company give the hepatitis one and I'm glad I did the blood testing to make sure I assimilated the chicken pox one, I got two shots of that one. I'm terrified of chickenpox and it can be deadly if you get it as an adult... If I ever have a girl I will for sure tell her to get that gardasil vaccine..

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Rodge

replied on September 5th, 2007

Active User, very eHealthy

You have fun with that smallpox, KingCop! I mean, assuming you'd prefer to live in a world where Edward Jenner just said 'Ah, screw it' and gave up and smallpox is still a huge epidemic problem. Or maybe Punch was right and the smallpox vaccine really did turn people into cows. Very Happy

Also cite your sources. I want links, and not to wikipedia or idiotsagainstwomennotgettingcervicalcancer .com or anything like that.

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Georgia59

replied on September 5th, 2007

Especially eHealthy

But seriously? $150 per shot? And you need three, so $400 total?

I guess I can't afford to prevent cervical cancer. Confused

And of course, there are no generics available, just the Gardasil brand.....

I hate drug companies.

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