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Q: Is Homosexuality Natural?
asked by: Jules on August 12th, 2007
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And if it's not, why do people do it?

Without benefit of science, it takes sexual intercourse between a male and a female to reproduce and so it could be argued that heterosexuality is nature's way.

However, humans have evolved to regard sex as more than just a method of reproduction so is homosexuality actually a sign of a higher evolutionary state?

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Birch
replied on August 12th, 2007
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*crosses fingers and hopes that nightangel doesn't answer...* Laughing
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PsychMajor
replied on August 12th, 2007
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Homosexuality has been practiced for at the least hundreds of years, and is actually mentioned in the bible (atleast thats what im told, never read it). Also it is thought to be partially genetic, though this has yet to be proven it is a theory. I believe Homosexuality to be not so much an evolutionary step, but one of preference, if you prefer the same gender, and men/women make you happy then go for it, its your life, ect ect.
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Tylanas
replied on August 12th, 2007
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Re: Is Homosexuality Natural?
Jules wrote:
And if it's not, why do people do it?

Without benefit of science, it takes sexual intercourse between a male and a female to reproduce and so it could be argued that heterosexuality is nature's way.

However, humans have evolved to regard sex as more than just a method of reproduction so is homosexuality actually a sign of a higher evolutionary state?

Opinions please!


Just like many things leave people genetically predisposed for behaviors and other things, I believe that homosexuality is also genetic. Because it is genetic, it is obviously natural.

Heterosexuality is of course they way many species have evolved to procreate. However, in many animals, homosexuality ALSO has its place. Penguins have gay couples... They care for eggs abandoned by straight couples when two are laid or when the parents die.

And from a purely evolutionary standpoint, if a species is procreating well enough, then it no longer needs every single born member to procreate later on. Thus, homosexual predispositions can come out more.
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young Girl
replied on August 12th, 2007
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i believe that you cant help who you fall in love with

a man with a woman
a man with a man
a woman with a woman

i dont believe that everyone is "born straight" or "born gay"

we are born to be individual and when the time comes to fall in love and it happens with someone reguardless of their sex, its up to that person.
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Jude-Love
replied on August 12th, 2007
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I think some people are born that way and some people like to experiment.
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milletics
replied on August 13th, 2007
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Alot of "I think" and "I believe's" here. Lets see what our ultimate authority says.

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

1 corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.


A person may be born with a greater tendency to homosexuality, just as people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person choosing to sin by giving into their sinful desires.
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replied on August 13th, 2007
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The question is not asking if it is wrong or right so I won't answer that. But if we are saying you can't help who you fall in love with or where your desires lay, born that way. Then I don't think it is natural, If that's the case it could be considered natural to desire children or animals. If that is the desire a person was born with!
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milletics
replied on August 13th, 2007
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meblonde01 wrote:
The question is not asking if it is wrong or right so I won't answer that. But if we are saying you can't help who you fall in love with or where your desires lay, born that way. Then I don't think it is natural, If that's the case it could be considered natural to desire children or animals. If that is the desire a person was born with!


well said. A person may be born with a tendancy torward pediphilism. Should he "go for it"?
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Lion79
replied on August 13th, 2007
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I don't think people are born gay I think it depends on the way they are raised and other experiences in life. From an evolutionary view I don't think it's natural, but that doesn't mean it's wrong.
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benc152
replied on August 13th, 2007
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I wonder why the focus is always on homosexuality?

In my opinion homosexuality is A LOT more natual than asexuality, but asexuals are definetly accepted more in society.


but who cares if it's "natural" or not?
in the words of bart simposon though "if it feels good, do it"
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meblonde01
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benc152 wrote:
I wonder why the focus is always on homosexuality?

In my opinion homosexuality is A LOT more natual than asexuality, but asexuals are definetly accepted more in society.


but who cares if it's "natural" or not?
in the words of bart simposon though "if it feels good, do it"


does that apply to anything we want?
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benc152
replied on August 13th, 2007
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meblonde01 wrote:


does that apply to anything we want?


Well yes, it pretty much does. The question was is it natural, and if not why do people do it ..

My anwser, yes it's natural.. but even if it is unatural does it matter? people do it because they enjoy it. 'nough said.
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replied on August 13th, 2007
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milletics wrote:
Alot of "I think" and "I believe's" here. Lets see what our ultimate authority says.

The bible is not the ultimate authority, so who gives a flying duck what IT has to say? I was referencing science, which is in the business of PROVING things, and has a habit of OBSERVING the real world around it.

I have *scientific* sources that prove homosexuality is natural in the wild. I have made logical deductions using science and common sense to apply this research to human behavior and share my observations. I didn't reference a fairy tale, and I didn't lie.
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Tylanas
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Lion79 wrote:
I don't think people are born gay I think it depends on the way they are raised and other experiences in life. From an evolutionary view I don't think it's natural, but that doesn't mean it's wrong.

Despite the fact that there is proof in nature that homosexuality is beneficial to a species as a whole?
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Tylanas
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meblonde01 wrote:
The question is not asking if it is wrong or right so I won't answer that. But if we are saying you can't help who you fall in love with or where your desires lay, born that way. Then I don't think it is natural, If that's the case it could be considered natural to desire children or animals. If that is the desire a person was born with!


There is a difference between an activity that is natural, and one that is... darn, how to phrase this? I'll use animals as an example again since it makes this easier.

It would make no sense for an adult penguin to have sex with a baby penguin. Not only could he or she potentially harm the baby, but, it would produce no babies. Secondly, there is no permanent bonding between the baby and the adult, since the baby isn't developed enough for the proper behavioral and possibly emotional attachment that another adult could give it. Two adult penguins of the same gender certainly aren't producing babies, but they are both mentally mature enough to care for an abandoned egg and raise the chick as their own; thus contributing to the species as a whole.

I personally wouldn't be surprised to see a trend among penguins directly corrolating homosexuality to population size. If the species is doing well, I bet more homosexual couples appear. If the population takes a dive, the behavior subsides in the next few generations until the species is doing well again. They give each other emotional support. Penguins mate for life, by the way. They're more monogamous that Americans!

So: Pedophelia - not advantageous in any way, and in fact harmful. Mental disease.

Loving a creature not of your species is so obviously not an evolutionary advantage in so many ways that I don't think it even needs discussed.
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Jules
replied on August 13th, 2007
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http://www.wwt.org.uk/article/3/221/gay_fl amingos_play_mum_and_dad.html

I have visited the Slimbridge centre several times but can't wait to go again soon to see the proud parents! Smile
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Tylanas
replied on August 13th, 2007
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Haha XD Cool!!
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milletics
replied on August 13th, 2007
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Eiri wrote:
milletics wrote:
Alot of "I think" and "I believe's" here. Lets see what our ultimate authority says.

The bible is not the ultimate authority, so who gives a flying duck what IT has to say? I was referencing science, which is in the business of PROVING things, and has a habit of OBSERVING the real world around it.

I have *scientific* sources that prove homosexuality is natural in the wild. I have made logical deductions using science and common sense to apply this research to human behavior and share my observations. I didn't reference a fairy tale, and I didn't lie.


So it sounds like your God is Science.
Did u know that science thought the world was flat
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young Girl
replied on August 13th, 2007
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milletics wrote:
Eiri wrote:
milletics wrote:
Alot of "I think" and "I believe's" here. Lets see what our ultimate authority says.

The bible is not the ultimate authority, so who gives a flying duck what IT has to say? I was referencing science, which is in the business of PROVING things, and has a habit of OBSERVING the real world around it.

I have *scientific* sources that prove homosexuality is natural in the wild. I have made logical deductions using science and common sense to apply this research to human behavior and share my observations. I didn't reference a fairy tale, and I didn't lie.


So it sounds like your God is Science.
Did u know that science thought the world was flat


no PEOPLE thought the world was flat
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