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Q: Pro Life Historically Is Secular Moral Opinion
asked by: kethib54 on August 8th, 2007
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Indeed, since Moses and through Jesus there is a definite pro-life view in Judaism and Christianity. Our laws are significantly based on the general Judeo-Christian morality. But, one can look at Hippocrates (of Hippocratic Oath fame) from about 500 BCE and he wrote above all "do no harm" and also, "perform no abortion and provide no pessary" (abortion med or device). Hippocrates was neither Jewish nor Christian, but he was quite pro-life. Historically, kinder gentler societies protect (and dont destroy) the weak, small, helpless including the unborn.
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sillyakchick
replied on August 9th, 2007
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Hippocrates also wrote "Let thy food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food". Does that mean we should not take medications if we should happen to fall ill?

"Here, take eat of my body" Umm, is this promoting cannibalism?

You have to understand that all great philosophers, including Jesus expoused fantastic ideas, but not every word they said or wrote was meant to be taken literally.
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Birch
replied on August 9th, 2007
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Get the quote correct, please. It's already been corrected for you once.
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meblonde01
replied on August 9th, 2007
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Birch wrote:
Get the quote correct, please. It's already been corrected for you once.


It would help people if we knew who you where addressing.. Smile
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Tylanas
replied on August 9th, 2007
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meblonde01 wrote:
Birch wrote:
Get the quote correct, please. It's already been corrected for you once.


It would help people if we knew who you where addressing.. Smile

She's addressing Sillyak in reference to the original hippocratic oath and how the modern one is quite different.
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Birch
replied on August 9th, 2007
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No, I'm addressing the original poster who has not gotten the Hippocrates quote pertaining to abortion correct yet.
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Tylanas
replied on August 9th, 2007
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Birch wrote:
No, I'm addressing the original poster who has not gotten the Hippocrates quote pertaining to abortion correct yet.

Aah. Well, I knew it had to do with the Hippocrates quote.
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sillyakchick
replied on August 10th, 2007
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Eiri wrote:
meblonde01 wrote:
Birch wrote:
Get the quote correct, please. It's already been corrected for you once.


It would help people if we knew who you where addressing.. Smile

She's addressing Sillyak in reference to the original hippocratic oath and how the modern one is quite different.


Pardon?
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meblonde01
replied on August 10th, 2007
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Lol Glad I ask. Smile
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Tylanas
replied on August 10th, 2007
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sillyakchick wrote:
Eiri wrote:
meblonde01 wrote:
Birch wrote:
Get the quote correct, please. It's already been corrected for you once.


It would help people if we knew who you where addressing.. Smile

She's addressing Sillyak in reference to the original hippocratic oath and how the modern one is quite different.


Pardon?

Sorry, I had the wrong person.
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Jude-Love
replied on August 10th, 2007
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Many African cultures, according to history, seem to be slightly pro-choice. Women used herbs to induce abortion frequently because when a woman didn't get her period, it was thought that she was ill.
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Tylanas
replied on August 10th, 2007
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Jude-Love wrote:
Many African cultures, according to history, seem to be slightly pro-choice. Women used herbs to induce abortion frequently because when a woman didn't get her period, it was thought that she was ill.

Oh, that's a neat note Smile I'd love to see the research of that.
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Jude-Love
replied on August 10th, 2007
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I can't remember where I read it....it may even be African-American women who were enslaved here. I think it was a book about abortion, though.
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Georgia59
replied on August 13th, 2007
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This whole argument is operating under the silly assumption that a pro choice society is against caring for the weak young and unborn.

I am pro choice. I don't like killing babies. I simply don't believe that they are babies yet when they are aborted.

So in a pro choice society, you can be plenty nurturing and caring, for the mothers and for the babies that are actually alive and hungry.

We don't really know if Jesus or Hippocrates were pro life, as there was not an issue at that point. Of course Jesus would say not to kill babies. That's a silly argument.
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