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hopefulmjz
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Breeding Dogs
Posted: 08-07-07 14:21pm
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Have any of you folks bred dogs? If so how
did it go?
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tinkinpink84
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Posted: 08-07-07 14:37pm
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i havent but my husband wants to breed
ours. Im wondering like we have a femaile
black lab so we would have to fidn a male,
if you are breeding withsomeone elses dog
how much do you give them when you sell
the puppies?
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hopefulmjz
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Posted: 08-07-07 14:44pm
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As far as how much goes to the other dog,
I think it's whatever you 2 agree to. A
lot of times people will give them pick of
the litter, or whatever.
I'm not sure what to do with our dog. They
won't spay her until she's at least 4lbs,
so I have awhile to think LOL. I would be
scared of who's dog would be the father. I
don't think I could do it unless I knew
the person really well. Our other
chihuahua is fixed, but he's probably too
big to sire any pups from her because he's
a mix and bigger than a normal chi.
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Birch
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Posted: 08-07-07 16:51pm
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Open a newspaper, and see how many bred
dogs there are for sale.
Go visit the SPCA, local shelters, etc.
Then revisit your conscience.
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hopefulmjz
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Posted: 08-07-07 23:18pm
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| Birch
wrote: | Open a newspaper, and see
how many bred dogs there are for sale.
Go visit the SPCA, local shelters, etc.
Then revisit your
conscience. |
Thanks, but I didn't need your snappy
comment. I was simply asking a question.
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Birch
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Posted: 08-07-07 23:42pm
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| hopefulmjz
wrote: | | Birch
wrote: | Open a newspaper, and see
how many bred dogs there are for sale.
Go visit the SPCA, local shelters, etc.
Then revisit your
conscience. |
Thanks, but I didn't need your snappy
comment. I was simply asking a
question. |
If you are thinking about breeding your
dog, then you did need my comment. And
if you took it as "snappy", then you must
have a conscience and know it is wrong. I
meant it only as "matter of fact", not
"snappy", and I was "simply" responding to
your question.
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hopefulmjz
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Posted: 08-07-07 23:55pm
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I didn't ask for your opinion. I asked a
question to see the experience of others.
You are not worth my time. I've had a day
from hell
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Birch
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Posted: 08-08-07 00:07am
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| hopefulmjz
wrote: | I didn't ask for your
opinion. I asked a question to see the
experience of others.
You are not worth my time. I've had a day
from hell |
Okay, well, I gave you my experience. I'm
sorry you had a day from hell. So did all
the dogs in the pound.
Edit to add: Why did you get irritated
with me? Is it because you didn't like my
opinion, which you did indeed ask for when
you said, "what is your experience with
breeding dogs"?
Fine, be ticked off at me, but don't breed
your dog. Do you know how many dogs are
euthanized every day only because there
are no homes for them? Do you want to
perpetuate suffering?
Knowing this information, I cannot side
idly and let you pontificate about
breeding your dog without commenting.
Sure, I don't want to offend anyone on
this forum, but offend you I will if it
means one less dog to suffer in a shelter
because either you bred it or someone got
a dog you bred instead of a dog at a
shelter.
Think about it.
Millions of dogs every year, euthanized
because of breeders, irresponsible pet
owners, etc. Think about the size of the
stack of dead dogs-all intensely
protective, loyal, and wonderful
creatures.
I'm sorry if I gross you out, but think about it.
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ThriftyGal
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Posted: 08-08-07 14:58pm
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| Birch
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Do you want to perpetuate suffering?
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You mean just like you do every time you
enjoy a good steak (medium rare)?
I am not trying to step on your toes, I
just find it funny to read that from
someone who participates in the
exploitation of many species by supporting
the meat industry. Unless you have some
sort of reasoning as to why the suffering
of domestic animals is any different from
that of farm animals.
It's just like someone saying they find
physical violence unacceptable but are
prepared to hit their children as a form
of discipline. You just seem to
me to be sitting on the fence as far as
animal rights goes, but also acting very
self righteous in your judgement of the
actions of others.
And Mandi, I think breeding is wrong too.
Not that you are concerned about opinions
from a moral view. I just felt obligated
to respond, as I'm sure Birch did. Call
it moral accountability.
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young Girl
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Posted: 08-08-07 15:21pm
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| Birch
wrote: | Open a newspaper, and see
how many bred dogs there are for sale.
Go visit the SPCA, local shelters, etc.
Then revisit your
conscience. |
well said birch
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tinkinpink84
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Posted: 08-08-07 15:23pm
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i looked in the paper for a dog, every
single person i called got rid of theres
already so my last resort was a breeder.
And thats how i got my puppy.
My aunt breeds her dogs, but she has a
male and female. bt eh to each there own.
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Birch
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Posted: 08-08-07 15:46pm
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| tanyaface
wrote: | | Birch
wrote: |
Do you want to perpetuate suffering?
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You mean just like you do every time you
enjoy a good steak (medium rare)?
I am not trying to step on your toes, I
just find it funny to read that from
someone who participates in the
exploitation of many species by supporting
the meat industry. Unless you have some
sort of reasoning as to why the suffering
of domestic animals is any different from
that of farm animals.
It's just like someone saying they find
physical violence unacceptable but are
prepared to hit their children as a form
of discipline. You just seem to
me to be sitting on the fence as far as
animal rights goes, but also acting very
self righteous in your judgement of the
actions of others.
And Mandi, I think breeding is wrong too.
Not that you are concerned about opinions
from a moral view. I just felt obligated
to respond, as I'm sure Birch did. Call
it moral
accountability. |
I think you've got me mixed up with
someone else.
I can't tell you the last time I had a
steak. Or a pork chop. Or a hamburger.
Or a hot dog. Or an egg that wasn't from
a free range, grain fed, cage free
chicken. When I ate steak I enjoyed it
medium rare. I appreciate that other
people do. When I said that on the meat
thread, it was so that I want people to
know that I can appreciate the taste. But
then I learned about what's in that steak,
and it makes me nauseous. Did you read
the rest of the thread?
I sit on no fence. I have a zoo here I
take care of. I make huge fusses about
animal welfare, and was a member of PETA
but can no longer afford the fee nor do I
agree with their tactics. I make a fuss
about conservation, I get on people's
cases when they don't seem to think their
choices effect the environment and
animals.
I really think you have me mixed up with
someone else.
| tinkinpink84
wrote: | i looked in the paper for a
dog, every single person i called got rid
of theres already so my last resort was a
breeder. And thats how i got my puppy.
My aunt breeds her dogs, but she has a
male and female. bt eh to each there
own. |
Really? No dogs anywhere? Or you had to
have a designer puppy?
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tinkinpink84
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Posted: 08-08-07 15:53pm
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I am in germany, When i lived in the
states my parents went to an animal haven,
we dont exactly have the yellow pages over
here, i looked in the stars and stripes
wich is the military paper here and is
written in english. We called every person
in that paper that was either selling or
giving away a puppy. I dont know if they
have animal havens here or what they would
be called, so with the resources i had
thats what i got. I could care less what
kinda dog i got honestly. my old dog was
the best dog in the world he was a mix
between german shepard and golden
retriever. sadly he is dead now. we got
him at the animal haven, taken in many
stray cats too. We had my cat from 1998
until this past april, when he got out
before my parents came to visit but
someone brought himto an animal shelter in
fla and he got adopted out. So no i wasnt
looking for a "designer" puppy. I was
looking for a dog. One that is a good
family dog. I wouldnt care if it was a
mixed breed or what have you. I just used
the resources that i had at the time. And
the paper was the only one i had to look
at. We even called people that were 3 hrs
away because its basically a europe paper,
so people all over germany at different
military bases can post ads in it. as well
as italy and stuff. If i was in the states
i would have opened the phone book and
found an spca or animal haven and went
streight there. but im not.
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Birch
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Posted: 08-08-07 15:56pm
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| tinkinpink84
wrote: | | I am in germany, When i
lived in the states my parents went to an
animal haven, we dont exactly have the
yellow pages over here, i looked in the
stars and stripes wich is the military
paper here and is written in english. We
called every person in that paper that was
either selling or giving away a puppy. I
dont know if they have animal havens here
or what they would be called, so with the
resources i had thats what i got. I could
care less what kinda dog i got honestly.
my old dog was the best dog in the world
he was a mix between german shepard and
golden retriever. sadly he is dead now. we
got him at the animal haven, taken in many
stray cats too. We had my cat from 1998
until this past april, when he got out
before my parents came to visit but
someone brought himto an animal shelter in
fla and he got adopted out. So no i wasnt
looking for a "designer" puppy. I was
looking for a dog. One that is a good
family dog. I wouldnt care if it was a
mixed breed or what have you. I just used
the resources that i had at the time. And
the paper was the only one i had to look
at. We even called people that were 3 hrs
away because its basically a europe paper,
so people all over germany at different
military bases can post ads in it. as well
as italy and stuff. If i was in the states
i would have opened the phone book and
found an spca or animal haven and went
streight there. but im
not. |
I'm sorry -I assumed you had other
options. Please accept my apologies.

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tinkinpink84
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Posted: 08-08-07 16:02pm
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its alright,
i asked my husband if he knew of animal
havens or anyone he knew as well, but most
of them moved here when we did. And being
military we have to be careful as well
with the animals we have over here.
Especially if we plan on shippin them back
to the states with us when we move. So any
animal in the stars and stripes paper we
know for sure is OK since majority are
registered on base and/or can be. Animal
haven woulda been my first choice if they
have em here but i got no idea on that
one, ive never personally seen one so im
not sure.
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Birch
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Posted: 08-08-07 16:06pm
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| tinkinpink84
wrote: | its alright,
i asked my husband if he knew of animal
havens or anyone he knew as well, but most
of them moved here when we did. And being
military we have to be careful as well
with the animals we have over here.
Especially if we plan on shippin them back
to the states with us when we move. So any
animal in the stars and stripes paper we
know for sure is OK since majority are
registered on base and/or can be. Animal
haven woulda been my first choice if they
have em here but i got no idea on that
one, ive never personally seen one so im
not sure. |
Well, I feel bad I got on your case about
it. I'll learn from it and try not to do
it in the future.
I know about the quarantine laws etc. when
it comes to shipping animals! Pain in the
butt! We plan to move overseas soon but
it is very prohibitive with the number of
animals we have.
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tinkinpink84
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Posted: 08-08-07 16:08pm
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that sucks, hehe i attempted lookin up
animal havens in germany online, but i
couldnt find a site that was in english!
But all is well you didnt now, i coulda
been german for all you know haha. All is
forgiven. 
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young Girl
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Posted: 08-08-07 16:40pm
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the picture speaks for itself
thats all i have to say....

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Posted: 08-08-07 17:03pm
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If you are thinking about having your dog
bred it is generally decided between the
sire's owner and the bi***h's owner's dog.
It is generally pick of the litter or
$(money). Make sure you know what you are
doing before you do breed your dog as
there is a lot involved such as the
attachment you get with the pups, a big
responsibility as they become like your
kids and the vet bills especially if the
vet has to take the pups out at delivery.
Talk to a well known breeder. Make sure
you can be at home when your dog delivers
the pups because unfortunately your dog
could eat one of the pups and get deathly
ill. Make sure that you have good homes.
It is also good to have a written contract
and that is if they cannot keep the dog
they must return it to you or at least you
know well where the pup is going to.
Maybe if you want to get your pup spayed
or neutered talk to another vet because
once your pup comes in heat any dog large
or small will try to get at your dog and
if your dog is small a big dog can kill
yours especially being small. Plus if you
get them spayed or neutered you are taking
less of a chance on them getting breast
cancer and other conditions.
There are a lot of back-yard breeders that
do not know anything but think they know
everything. Please be careful who you talk
to.
We are thinking of having our Irish
Wolfhound bred and the sperm is at the
bank from a good breeders Irish Wolfhound
and I know they will go to good homes or
else We would have to keep them. Her
litter had 11 pups so I feel that she will
have a large litter, that is the reason I
might not breed her because I do not want
my dog hurt by having a big litter but you
never know!
If you do not know much about breeding
then I recommend that you don't!
Is your dog registered with A.K.C? Is it a
mix breed? Sorry this is so long! .
Good Luck!
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Posted: 08-08-07 17:20pm
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I breed Shih Tzu's ONLY 3 litters per
female then they're spayed it's mostly a
hobby. I love it. It's alot of fun! If the
people change there mind after they have
the pup. I take the pup back and give a
full refund. (this has only happened once)
I love these little guys when people come
to meet the puppies I have an interview
with them to make sure the pup will fit
with there home. I only sell to people who
have a house with a fenced in yard. People
who will be home more often. Because I
don't want the pup to be alone all of the
time. I also make sure that if its a
family its a family choice. Not just for
children who want the pup it's for the
whole family to enjoy. I give away puppy
packages and also get there first shots.
By the time the litter is sold and gone
with the expenses I pay.. I usually clear
around 300.00 per litter! LOL Like I said
its just a hobby. One thing other thing
THATS a MUST.. THESE ARE NOT SOLD TO BE
SHOW DOGS! Because right as soon as
someone wants them to be in a show I will
turn them down. They all are CKC
registered. However, I do not sell them
with there papers. I just let the owner
see them, to ensure that they wont be in
shows!
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