Ha ha ha I think it's really
funny that the title of this thread is
'Did Jesus Really Exist?' and the first
post is this:
milletics
wrote:
Well as a believer in
Christ; I would have to say
no.
yes this needs changed. I was talking
about aliens or other planetary beings.
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meblonde01
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Posted: 08-03-07 06:19am
If Jesus did exist, do you think he was a
good honest man?
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milletics
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Posted: 08-03-07 06:25am
meblonde01
wrote:
If Jesus did exist, do you
think he was a good honest
man?
I believe what the bible says about him.
So yes. I believe he was perfect.
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diamond splinter
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Posted: 08-03-07 08:12am
i think jesus was just a schizophrenic who
beleived his mother(also a schizo) when
she told him he was the son of god (what
better explanation could she give her
husband for a suposed virgin to give birth
to a child that isn't her husbands)
seriously if a man was to walk to streets
today claiming to be jesus son of god we
would phone the men in white coats for him
why what makes him any less jesus son of
god than some guy suffering the same
mental illness hundreds of years ago.
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milletics
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Posted: 08-03-07 09:06am
diamond splinter
wrote:
i think jesus was just a
schizophrenic who beleived his mother(also
a schizo) when she told him he was the son
of god (what better explanation could she
give her husband for a suposed virgin to
give birth to a child that isn't her
husbands) seriously if a man was to walk
to streets today claiming to be jesus son
of god we would phone the men in white
coats for him why what makes him any less
jesus son of god than some guy suffering
the same mental illness hundreds of years
ago.
I disagree. If I seen a man touch someone
confined to a wheelchair and the person
rose and walked, or if he commanded a dead
man to rise and he did....i would listen.
You see thats the difference. He practiced
what he preached. He said he was God and
he proved it. Proof is in the pudding. A
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Tylanas
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Posted: 08-03-07 09:48am
Well I think that's my point: I don't feel
that if there actually was 1 Jesus, that
he actually thought he was the son of God
or any of that stuff. Ever seen Life of
Brian? Same deal... I think Jesus had good
ideas and the "fans" got carried away.
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diamond splinter
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Posted: 08-03-07 09:54am
milletics
wrote:
diamond splinter
wrote:
i think jesus was just a
schizophrenic who beleived his mother(also
a schizo) when she told him he was the son
of god (what better explanation could she
give her husband for a suposed virgin to
give birth to a child that isn't her
husbands) seriously if a man was to walk
to streets today claiming to be jesus son
of god we would phone the men in white
coats for him why what makes him any less
jesus son of god than some guy suffering
the same mental illness hundreds of years
ago.
I disagree. If I seen a man touch someone
confined to a wheelchair and the person
rose and walked, or if he commanded a dead
man to rise and he did....i would listen.
You see thats the difference. He practiced
what he preached. He said he was God and
he proved it. Proof is in the pudding.
A
so let me get this right you saw a dead
man rise when commanded and you saw a man
confined to a wheelchair get up and walk
at the touch of another man ?
there is no proof that any of the said
miracles ever physicaly happend what have
you a diary of a schizophrenic that has
been changed and modified over hundreds of
years.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 08-03-07 10:03am
Hey milletics, I can't edit your post from
here due to new board editing things bla
bla bla, but I've taken a step to
hopefully get it changed.
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meblonde01
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Posted: 08-03-07 11:19am
humm I thought for a minute this got
locked.. Birch can't find it..
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The Ginger 1
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Posted: 08-03-07 13:03pm
chase4
wrote:
on wife swap i heard that
jesus was a carpenter that talked to much
ha ha ha .. that's bloody funny ... I know
of a butcher that talks to much too ...
didn't make him 'son of god' tho ...
I'll start calling him 'Jesus' makes a
difference to 'Jon' dunnit
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Magical Logic
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Posted: 08-03-07 13:09pm
only way i found this is cause i searched
for post i have made.
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Jules
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Posted: 08-03-07 13:13pm
Where was it then? I swear I couldn't see
it on the list!
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Tylanas
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Posted: 08-03-07 13:15pm
I posted as to what happened on the "where
did jesus go" post. This is still here,
just hidden or something, so if you get
e-mail alerts or search for your own posts
you can find it lol.
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Jules
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Posted: 08-03-07 13:15pm
Cool. It's like being in limbo.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 08-03-07 13:18pm
meblonde01
wrote:
If Jesus did exist, do you
think he was a good honest
man?
I think so, yes.
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Posted: 08-03-07 13:41pm
Eiri
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
If Jesus did exist, do you
think he was a good honest
man?
I think so,
yes.
Do you think he said any of the things
that where past down. Or did people just
made them up?
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Posted: 08-03-07 13:53pm
meblonde01
wrote:
Eiri
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
If Jesus did exist, do you
think he was a good honest
man?
I think so,
yes.
Do you think he said any of the things
that where past down. Or did people just
made them up?
Yes, if Jesus
was one person and not an amalgamation of
concepts, then yes I do believe he said
things very similar to what is written in
the bible. Just like Buddha said things
that were recorded, just like Ghandi and
Martin Luther King Jr.
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meblonde01
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Posted: 08-03-07 14:08pm
Eiri
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
Eiri
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
If Jesus did exist, do you
think he was a good honest
man?
I think so,
yes.
Do you think he said any of the things
that where past down. Or did people just
made them up?
Yes, if Jesus
was one person and not an amalgamation of
concepts, then yes I do believe he said
things very similar to what is written in
the bible. Just like Buddha said things
that were recorded, just like Ghandi and
Martin Luther King
Jr.
ok.. then if you think he is a honest man
and the things written in the bible where
things he said. You wouldn't think he was
a liar, Right? Then is it safe to say when
he told us who he was, and that nobody
gets to the father except through him, and
his father has a home for us, and he would
rise in three days, and on and on with
everything else he said. Is it all not
true?
Because I don't think a man that's
reputation has been pasted down with only
good things would say anything to mislead
us! or deceive us. If so he wouldn’t be
a honest man would he?
What do you think?
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Posted: 08-03-07 14:35pm
milletics
wrote:
I disagree. If I seen a man touch someone
confined to a wheelchair and the person
rose and walked, or if he commanded a dead
man to rise and he did....i would listen.
You see thats the difference. He practiced
what he preached. He said he was God and
he proved it. Proof is in the pudding.
A
Yes, I suppose if I'd seen or had some
reputable proof that these things happened
I'd believe to.
milletics, there are no reliable sources
proving Jesus' existence. Why do you
still believe? Do you believe in King
Arthur? The Egyptian God Horus? What
makes the story of Jesus more believeable
than these?
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Tylanas
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Posted: 08-03-07 17:40pm
meblonde01
wrote:
Eiri
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
Eiri
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
If Jesus did exist, do you
think he was a good honest
man?
I think so,
yes.
Do you think he said any of the things
that where past down. Or did people just
made them up?
Yes, if Jesus
was one person and not an amalgamation of
concepts, then yes I do believe he said
things very similar to what is written in
the bible. Just like Buddha said things
that were recorded, just like Ghandi and
Martin Luther King
Jr.
ok.. then if you think he is a honest man
and the things written in the bible where
things he said. You wouldn't think he was
a liar, Right? Then is it safe to say when
he told us who he was, and that nobody
gets to the father except through him, and
his father has a home for us, and he would
rise in three days, and on and on with
everything else he said. Is it all not
true?
No. Just because some of the things written
in the bible may be his word, there is no
excuse to assume ALL of the words written
in his name are actually his. That is a
leap of faith, not a leap of knowledge.
Quote:
Because I don't
think a man that's reputation has been
pasted down with only good things would
say anything to mislead us!
HE didn't. Enthusiastic and zealous
followers did. I firmly believe the
clearest answer is the falsifying,
extension, and expansion of the Jesus
mythos was due to his followers and NOT
his own wishes.
