Immigration

well, I was not there..
so I am just telling you what my grandma told me..
but i'm taking her word for it b/c she doesn't have anything to lie about...
i was just adding a story to go along with what opal was talking about.

I guess maybe America is innocent of ever creating something harmful?

As for the language thing-I think we are the only country who are slowed down by people who don't speak our language, lol.

Which is sad.

I keep returning to read this thread and it tortures me, because mexicans are the scapegoat now just like the irish and the japenese were so many years ago.

My sister-in-law was from Mexico, and my brother asked her to marry him and she did do the proper thing. We had to wait six months to bring her home legally, and although her english is not very good, she is doing her best and learning more everyday, she has a job, PAYS her taxes, etc. Not all people are the same way, it is not fair to stereotype.

My mom came here from Mexico after she was orphaned at the age of 14. She was shipped to the only relatives who could care for her and they happened to be here in California (and she came here legally as well). She went to high school and learned english very quickly, it's not as if these people aren't learning english to intentionally "slow the school systems down". By the way, I also live in southern california, and I have rarely seen a class with a bunch of students who can't speak english that are slowing down the class. Most of these kids are first generation, so they know enough english to get along and not bother anyone. She got a job at a gas station to pay for college, and she is now the head RN and clinical coordinator of a major hospital in Fresno CA for the entire endoscopy dept.

It is people like my family who work hard and earned their way into this country, yet all people can do is stereotype them.

We should give these people a chance to become legal, and if they can't work it out, if these people (ALL people not just mexicans, latino's etc) are found to be harmful to society, then by all means, do what is necessary (and within reason) to solve the problem.

how are these people paying taxes when they get payed under the table?

No, but this is an immigration debate.

not all mexiacns are bad illigal lazy mooching people.
just like not all white people are racist against blacks

just like all blacks arent thugs

just like all chinese people dont have small wangs

I am not using Mexicans as a scapegoat. I have actually talked to many local business owners in my area and they all employ Illegal Immigrants under the table, which means no taxes are collected. Many of the immigrants that are working use random social security numbers (also told to me from a business owner in my area) which is considered identity theft even if they are not using it for their gain. I do not think it is only Mexicans doing this but in my area the majority of illegals are from Mexico and Central and South America.

I am also not saying that all Mexicans are illegals and lazy moochers. Many illegals are not Mexican and they do work but many are not contributing to the system that is providing their childrens education.

But I am talking about now, not hundreds of years ago.

Yes, Illegals pay sales tax but they also skip over paying social security, federal and state INCOME taxes that everyone else has to pay. Not all do but many who do use others social security cards claim incorrect deductions and are stealing others identity and causing them hassles when they have to file. How would you like to be that person?

Americans do all of those things too.

I NEVER said that Americans do not do this but we are not talking about AMERICANS, we are talking about ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. They are not supposed to be here in the first place shich makes that all the worse.

So as long as you are from the US, you can break the law and nobody will look down on you....just as long as you aren't an immigrant? Even the legal immigrants are looked down upon, how do you know who is illegal, and who is not? Do go up and ask for papers?