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Q: 6 Months
asked by: meblonde01 on July 29th, 2007
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I read a fetus can be aboted in Texas at 24 weeks "6 months" Here is a 3-D Ultra sound picture provided by GE Healthcare. Do you think a fetus should be aborted at this stage?
And lets say there is no medical problems. The woman just didn't want the baby. What do you think?

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young Girl
replied on July 29th, 2007
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thats just wrong

and sick

at that point its a fully developed baby
has all the vital organs needed to survive
looks normal even

ugh
im sorry but i cant believe the state i live in even has that here
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HcoBrunette06
replied on July 29th, 2007
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no.
i think they should have made that decision before then!

maybe thats close minded of me, i don't really know.
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Carifairy
replied on July 29th, 2007
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I believe that abortion is an option that should be available regardless of gestation. Very few abortions are performed past 20 weeks. Only 1.9% of all abortions are performed past 20 weeks, this tells me that most women are having an abortion early in pregnancy.

I work at an abortion clinic, I assist in the procedure, and most of our patients are less than 11 weeks.

I have only seen 4 abortions in the past 6 months, that were over 14 weeks in gestation.
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meblonde01
replied on July 29th, 2007
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HcoBrunette06 wrote:
no.
i think they should have made that decision before then!

maybe thats close minded of me, i don't really know.


Not closed minded.. I feel the same way! Sad! Poor little thing..
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Gu£st
replied on July 29th, 2007
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young Girl
replied on July 29th, 2007
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i agree with terra and meblonde01

the abortion should have been preformed before then and after its just messed up point blank

theres no excuse after 13 weeks
after then the baby is a developed being and you cant deny that its alive
it even has the abillity to respond to light sounds and movements such as tapping on your tummy or something

thats so wrong i dont care who says what about it
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Carifairy
replied on July 29th, 2007
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Many women do not have 500$ just laying around for an abortion, sometimes they must 'save up', which takes time.

That is the reason I usually hear for women that choose abortion at 14-15 weeks, they did not have the money.

Medicaid does not cover abortion, unless you live in California, and 4 other states which I do not know right off the top of my head.
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young Girl
replied on July 29th, 2007
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Carifairy wrote:
Many women do not have 500$ just laying around for an abortion, sometimes they must 'save up', which takes time.

That is the reason I usually hear for women that choose abortion at 14-15 weeks, they did not have the money.

Medicaid does not cover abortion, unless you live in California, and 4 other states which I do not know right off the top of my head.



i dont care how much money it costs
there is NO excuse for an abortion that late in pregnancy
NO EXCUSE
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Carifairy
replied on July 29th, 2007
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Then you do not have to get an abortion that late.

For women that do want to get an abortion that late, I will continue to give them REAL medical information and support.
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meblonde01
replied on July 29th, 2007
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Carifairy wrote:
Then you do not have to get an abortion that late.

For women that do want to get an abortion that late, I will continue to give them REAL medical information and support.


so you think it is ok if a women with no medical reason has an abortion at 24 weeks?
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young Girl
replied on July 29th, 2007
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Carifairy wrote:
Then you do not have to get an abortion that late.

For women that do want to get an abortion that late, I will continue to give them REAL medical information and support.


also please let them know what they are doing :] and remind them exactly what the baby looks like,how its heart beats and how it can react to light and motion and sounds
Wink
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meblonde01
replied on July 29th, 2007
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the_girlfreind wrote:
Carifairy wrote:
Then you do not have to get an abortion that late.

For women that do want to get an abortion that late, I will continue to give them REAL medical information and support.


also please let them know what they are doing :] and remind them exactly what the baby looks like,how its heart beats and how it can react to light and motion and sounds
Wink


good point.. let them know all the facts.. not just how to have the abortion.
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Carifairy
replied on July 29th, 2007
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Of course, I am unafraid of discussing how a 24 week abortion is done, and I am unafraid of discussing fetal development and viability issues.

I have not personally seen a 24 week abortion that was NOT for fetal deformity, but I support abortion regardless.
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Tylanas
replied on July 29th, 2007
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I really DO NOT like "elective" abortions at this stage, for reasons already posted. It can survive outside the womb. It is basically fully developed. It can more than likely feel pain at this stage.

HOWEVER, I do feel that even with "elective" abortions, there is always a reason. Money, especially, can be hard to get ahold of... so I just can't condemn a woman for an abortion this late if that was her reason.

I'd definitely look down on a woman who had money and resources to get it done earlier and just didn't feel like it. She sees herself getting fat and suddenly doesn't want it anymore... I don't know. I just feel reasons like that are too shallow.

In the end, I feel I have to be pro-choice up until month 7 "elective" abortions. At that point I don't care how much money you did or didn't get. Just give it up for adoption at that point. I wouldn't drive a woman to a 7 or 8 or 9 month "elective" abortion. I would however give her all the support I could to help her find an adoptive family. Heck, I'd pay some of the hospital fees. I just feel that the fetus is too developed at that point to justify an elective abortion.

Then again, I would not go out of my way to stop her... I just wouldn't help her get one.
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meblonde01
replied on July 29th, 2007
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Carifairy wrote:
Of course, I am unafraid of discussing how a 24 week abortion is done, and I am unafraid of discussing fetal development and viability issues.

I have not personally seen a 24 week abortion that was NOT for fetal deformity, but I support abortion regardless.


You are unafraid of discussing it.. But would you? There is a difference.. And do they ever discuss things like that before a woman has an abortion? Or no? Just wondering..
I think probably not, they figure the woman has already made up her mind or she would not be there so why tell her anything. They are there to do the abortion not consultation.
I wonder how many women have abortions and never know the size of the fetus or other things that has developed and if it would make a difference if they did. That would be interesting to know.
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Carifairy
replied on July 29th, 2007
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I do discuss it.

I do discuss graphically, what an abortion at 24 weeks entails.

Many women do not care that it is very developed, they want an abortion.

Now, like I said, the only abortions I have personally dealt with at 20-24 weeks, have been due to fetal deformity.
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agent10ve
replied on July 29th, 2007
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I couldn't have an abortion that late. You KNOW you are pregnant by six months. People who get pregnant should be responsible and decide what they are going to do right as soon as they know. Not wait six months and decide to cut it out.
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meblonde01
replied on July 29th, 2007
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Carifairy wrote:
I do discuss it.

I do discuss graphically, what an abortion at 24 weeks entails.

Many women do not care that it is very developed, they want an abortion.

Now, like I said, the only abortions I have personally dealt with at 20-24 weeks, have been due to fetal deformity.


Right.. I figured there was conversation about the detail for the abortion procedure. But I figured there isn't much of anything more.. like you say they don't care about the development. They want an abortion.. But I wonder how many even know about the development part. To tell you the truth. I never had children. And until I got interested. and started looking I could not have told you what size a fetus was at hardly any point. I just wonder if there was more education before the decision of abortion if it might change minds. I think it might with some… I doubt that a abortion clinic would find it in their best interest to educate a person about the development of the fetus at whatever stage they are.
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Carifairy
replied on July 29th, 2007
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More than half of our patients actually already have children, many cannot afford any more.

Many of them already know fetal development, having had children before.

Like I said though, at 6 months I have only seen abortions that were for defects.

I have seen 16-18 abortions because a woman was on depo, or because she used an IUD that completely took away her period. A lot of these women do not suspect pregnancy until they may get morning sickness, or gain weight.
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