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Posted: 11-07-07 20:24pm

As I said, I'm not going to debate this. I've done it before elsewhere and people tend to be too close-minded to even consider it. SO it's up to you to believe it or not...if not, good luck when it all goes down.
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Posted: 11-07-07 20:55pm

EklipseX wrote:
As I said, I'm not going to debate this. I've done it before elsewhere and people tend to be too close-minded to even consider it. SO it's up to you to believe it or not...if not, good luck when it all goes down.


lol. you are funny.
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Posted: 11-08-07 23:36pm

Dont come cryin to me
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Posted: 11-09-07 00:35am

Eklipse, I don't know about what you think, you could be right who knows. But just to let you know, from the things you said about america killing us off, where is your patriotism at? You live in America... I think you have a much higher chance then the rest of us for being put into camps and killed off for openly stating such things (whether or not it is true). -_- I can accept the possibility that the government to some extent had ulterior motives for Sept 11, some things do seem a bit fishy. There is no way for us to really know either, we only really know what occurs over there in the war through the media. Something similar to the novel 1984 (if anybody read it) could occur and we may not know.

From what I heard about these September 11 Government schemes
Pentagon was not hit by a plane as mentioned, but a missile (due to the shape of damage)
Twin Towers had two planes crash into it + armed bombs going off simultaneously (planted in the twin towers previously)
Twin Towers cannot possibly implode the way it did just from the heat of the plane fire.

Those were the most compelling evidence I saw sometime back.

But I also heard stupid ones about the government blew up the twin towers because there was a huge stash of gold underneath.

::shrugs:: its events of the past, a sad event, but people move on, that is life. I saw the fires of the twin towers. I was in 8th grade and we all saw the fires outside our intermediate school. We didn't know what was going on and joked on about some fool burnt his house down. Then my homeroom teacher was in tears... and there was a lot of commotion that none of us understood.
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Posted: 11-09-07 09:43am

The "compelling evidence" is easily debunked anyway. I've seen nothing aside from one mysterious "flash" that would make me think it was a conspiracy.
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Posted: 11-09-07 10:18am

My two cents: No. No it wasn't.
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Posted: 11-09-07 13:14pm

I don't think he public has been told everything. But, at the same time, I don't believe it was this huge staged conspiracy either.
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Posted: 11-24-07 10:41am

How beautifully those building emploded eh? I can really get into this subject so I better zipper my mouth while the going is good. *winks*
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Posted: 11-25-07 02:38am

Until this evening when I stumbled upon this thread, I thought the following:

Osama Bin Laden and his men planned and carried out the attacks.
Our government knew about it but it happen anyway.
I formed the latter opinion after watching the hearings and Condi Rice's testimony about intelligence reports the gov't rec'd right before 9/11.:

Testimony

RICE: Thank you very much. And now I'm happy to take your questions.

KEAN:

And yet, you walk in (during the transition from the Clinton presidency to Bush) and Dick Clarke is talking about al Qaeda should be our number-one priority. Sandy Berger tells you you'll be spending more time on that than anything else.

What did you think, and what did you tell the president, as you get that kind of, I suppose, new information for you?

RICE: Well, in fact, Mr. Chairman, it was not new information. I think we all knew about the 1998 bombings. We knew that there was speculation that the 2000 Cole attack was al Qaeda. There had been, I think, documentaries about Osama bin Laden.

I, myself, had written for an introduction to a volume on bioterrorism done at Sanford that I thought that we wanted not to wake up one day and find that Osama bin Laden had succeeded on our soil.

It was on the radar screen of any person who studied or worked in the international security field.



KEAN: I've got a question now I'd like to ask you. It was given to me by a number of members of the families.

Did you ever see or hear from the FBI, from the CIA, from any other intelligence agency, any memos or discussions or anything else between the time you got into office and 9/11 that talked about using planes as bombs?

RICE: Let me address this question because it has been on the table.

I think that concern about what I might have known or we might have known was provoked by some statements that I made in a press conference. I was in a press conference to try and describe the August 6 memo, which I've talked about here in my opening remarks and which I talked about with you in the private session.

And I said, at one point, that this was a historical memo, that it was -- it was not based on new threat information. And I said, "No one could have imagined them taking a plane, slamming it into the Pentagon" -- I'm paraphrasing now -- "into the World Trade Center, using planes as a missile."

As I said to you in the private session, I probably should have said, "I could not have imagined," because within two days, people started to come to me and say, "Oh, but there were these reports in 1998 and 1999. The intelligence community did look at information about this."


BEN-VENISTE: You acknowledged to us in your interview of February 7, 2004, that Richard Clarke told you that al Qaeda cells were in the United States.

BEN-VENISTE: Did you tell the president, at any time prior to August 6, of the existence of al Qaeda cells in the United States?

RICE: First, let me just make certain...

BEN-VENISTE: If you could just answer that question, because I only have a very limited...

RICE: I understand, Commissioner, but it's important...

BEN-VENISTE: Did you tell the president...

RICE: ... that I also address...

It's also important that, Commissioner, that I address the other issues that you have raised. So I will do it quickly, but if you'll just give me a moment.

BEN-VENISTE: Well, my only question to you is whether you...

RICE: I understand, Commissioner, but I will...

BEN-VENISTE: ... told the president.

RICE: If you'll just give me a moment, I will address fully the questions that you've asked.

First of all, yes, the August 6 PDB was in response to questions of the president -- and that since he asked that this be done. It was not a particular threat report. And there was historical information in there about various aspects of al Qaeda's operations.

Dick Clarke had told me, I think in a memorandum -- I remember it as being only a line or two -- that there were al Qaeda cells in the United States.

Now, the question is, what did we need to do about that?

And I also understood that that was what the FBI was doing, that the FBI was pursuing these al Qaeda cells. I believe in the August 6 memorandum it says that there were 70 full field investigations under way of these cells. And so there was no recommendation that we do something about this; the FBI was pursuing it. I really don't remember, Commissioner, whether I discussed this with the president.

BEN-VENISTE: Thank you.

RICE: I remember very well that the president was aware that there were issues inside the United States. He talked to people about this. But I don't remember the al Qaeda cells as being something that we were told we needed to do something about.

BEN-VENISTE: Isn't it a fact, Dr. Rice, that the August 6 PDB warned against possible attacks in this country? And I ask you whether you recall the title of that PDB?

RICE: I believe the title was, "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States."


Now, the...

BEN-VENISTE: Thank you.


This evening I watched the video called In Plane Sight )or site?). Now I am not sure about much of it.
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Posted: 11-25-07 03:51am

In Plane site is..

eye opening to say the least.

I had so much faith in the system, the government, til i saw that site.
Now its been replaced with hatred and dissapointment.
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Posted: 11-25-07 13:23pm

I'm so mad I can't find the website that shows that move, In Plane Site. Do you know the web address of it?

Everyone who thinks they know what happened should watch it.
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Posted: 11-25-07 16:30pm

You can buy the DVD here: http://www.911inplanesite.com

You can view a part of it here: http ://www.metacafe.com/watch/191418/in_plain_ sight_part_1/

It is absolutely tragic and horrifying.
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Posted: 11-26-07 07:16am

If anyone can explain to me why there is a giant discrepancy between what the lease owner said about building 7 (that he decided to "pull it" i.e., bring it down in a controlled demo0lition because it was so damaged) VS. what the official FEMA gov't report said (fire brought it down), I'd appreciate it.

If he decided to "pull it", how in the world did they get all of the explosives into the building in the exact locations needed to bring the building down ASAP? The building came down on Sept. 11, hours or less after the decision to pull it.

And if instead, FEMA is correct, then how did a steel building come down from fire, when it wasn't even atacked, and no other steel building in history has ever fallen because of fire?
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Posted: 11-26-07 09:30am

Mikolas wrote:
You live in America... I think you have a much higher chance then the rest of us for being put into camps and killed off for openly stating such things (whether or not it is true). .


This very statement is the exact reason why I fear the government. If we live in a free country, then there should be no reason whatsoever to imprison people for saying things-particularly in a country where our freedom of speech and ability to question our government provided teh foundation for our democracy. I, too, am probably on a watch list of some sort, but I don't really care. If they want to drag me off to Git'Mo for having an opinion, my point will only be proven more eloquently. Imprisoning people for thought crimes? That simply smacks of a fascist regime. I fear it is coming sooner than we all think. Furthermore, I consider it to be patriotic to question what really happened to thousands of Americans. To me, the evidence doesn't add up, and I want the real guilty parties to be held accountable, whomever they are. I would think that is far more patriotic than being spoon fed fear and paranoia about foreign terrorist being responsible for everything. It makes me nuts. IF they are truly the guilty parties, then why all the secrecy???
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Posted: 11-26-07 10:06am

Naomi Wolf, wife, mother, and author, is on the terror watch list. She stated this in an interview for her new book entitled End Od America-Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot.

This book is all about how we are losing our freedoms just as people did in other fascist regimes
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Posted: 11-26-07 10:54am

futureshock wrote:
If anyone can explain to me why there is a giant discrepancy between what the lease owner said about building 7 (that he decided to "pull it" i.e., bring it down in a controlled demo0lition because it was so damaged) VS. what the official FEMA gov't report said (fire brought it down), I'd appreciate it.

If he decided to "pull it", how in the world did they get all of the explosives into the building in the exact locations needed to bring the building down ASAP? The building came down on Sept. 11, hours or less after the decision to pull it.

And if instead, FEMA is correct, then how did a steel building come down from fire, when it wasn't even atacked, and no other steel building in history has ever fallen because of fire?


When you figure this out, let me know. baffle
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Posted: 11-27-07 13:01pm

I will, and thanks for the links in your other post. Smile
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Posted: 12-05-07 17:52pm

Marfa2107 wrote:
my brother told me not too long ago that bush actually had the 2 towers closed down about 5 days before the actual attack. that day he had all surveillence (sp?) off and all security guards off duty...
so i wonder what was going on????...

waht dude that never happend i have a friend who had someneo oeh new die in twin towers did they akll just pofo or sometinkg
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Posted: 12-05-07 18:25pm

Aaaagh... english... being maimed...
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Posted: 12-05-07 18:42pm

Eiri wrote:
Aaaagh... english... being maimed...


lmao i was like, *my eyes! my eyes! my brain!*
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