Ibs Possibly , But New Symptoms Are Cause For Concern . Posted: 07-16-07 15:12pm
I'm a 20-year-old female in good health,
not overweight and I do not smoke or
drink.
For several months I have been
experiencing symptoms that correlate very
closely to IBS. Fullness or bloating,
diarrhea, stomach cramps, ect. I recently
changed to a fiber rich, low-fat diet, and
my symptoms have lessened greatly. But now
I am faced with a new set of alarming
problems.
As of late, my stool has been soft, but
solid, I've had a little discomfort, I've
occasionally had white/creamish color
mucus on the outside of the stool and
small white specks in one or two of the
bowel movements. Today and yesterday, I
noticed normally colored red blood on the
outside of the stool as well as a
sack-like pouch of blood attached to one
of the bowel movements. I believe it has
happened in the past as well. There
wasn't much blood, I had to look closely
to see anything but the sack-like thing.
After some research online, I am getting
nervous that I may be experience symptoms
of colon cancer or polyps instead of just
IBS.
I'm a little embarrassed to go to the
doctor with these symptoms and the
procedures that will need to be done as I
have a slight fear of procedures, but I do
not want to ignore these signs anymore.
I don't know if colon cancer runs in my
family and I am only 20 years old.
Should I go to my doctor and have these
symptoms checked out soon?
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slpjab
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Re: Ibs Possibly , But New Symptoms Are Cause For Concern . Posted: 07-19-07 09:11am
It seems the same search of "sack-like"
pouch of blood made me find you again.
Any help with your symptoms? If you're
wondering, I'm the one who replied to your
post on "Yahoo" health.
I'm too afraid of what might happen. This
is why I had come to these posts. Even
though I don't have any cancer that runs
in the family, I am afraid that we could
be those "statistics" that make it
"extremely rare" instead of non-existent.
I do have a question or two for you
though, first is:
Have you been constipated at all?
Especially before this happened?
Second:
Has your stool been more narrow than
usual?
Lastly:
Are your cramps or feeling of bloatedness
severe or dull? Mine seem to be a little
painful, but tolerable at times. A dull
feeling could be a symptom of colon
cancer.
These are the more scary symptoms I've had
that match either polyps or colon cancer.
You know about the small sack-like pouch
of blood. But, I've also been reading
that these symptoms could mean a different
bunch of things. Doesn't have to be colon
cancer or polyps just because the
information we found on the internet is
usually vague on non-descript.
I'm sure most doctors will tell you to get
checked before ever attempting to look
information out on the internet.
Self-diagnosis can be a "bear" I hear, but
just as you, I'm a straight male and I
care VERY little of a doctor shoving a
long tube up my anus. Nasty thought.
Oh, as far as my health, I'm definetly no
glutton. I'm trim and also very healthy.
I do smoke though, so I hope that doesn't
have a factor. I've also been taking
Chantix to help me quit smoking for six
days. Tomorrow is my quit date, so I hope
that me not smoking will help out my
symptoms.
I have a hard time believing; though, if
you don't smoke and are of healthy stature
that my smoking would be much of a factor
in this scenario. I don't drink, either.
I have kept up exercise until recently
because of the birth of my first daughter
and my confines have been with my child
since the mother is working again and I
watch her round the clock. Are you
inactive? Spend a lot of time at
computer? Or at work are you hunched over
a lot? I'm sure you've read 90% of the
articles I did since our searches are
pretty much confined to google or yahoo.
As far suckers you go see the doctor?
Yes, I think you need a professionals
advice. As far as me, I'm still
anxiously awaiting the arrival of my
grandmother who is going to be paying for
anything while I wait to start work again
to pick up my insurance. I'm not just
saying you should go because I also
wonder. But, I'm sure you went to these
posts for the same reason as I: all the
sites we looked at told us to go to the
doctor and we both don't want a camera
shoved up our butt!
Anxiously awaiting your reply. Good
Luck.
Ps We're both probably ok, but better safe
than dead!
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slpjab
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Re: Ibs Possibly , But New Symptoms Are Cause For Concern . Posted: 07-19-07 09:18am
In my last paragraph does it say "As far
suckers"? That is a glitch in the forum
and I went to "edit" and it says "As far
suckers". When I went back it still said
"As far suckers"...wow who knows.
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Angelkins
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Joined: 16 Jul 2007 Posts: 6
Posted: 07-19-07 11:00am
Well I'm glad you found me again! I
didn't know you experience that same
symptom, which I have got to say is the
one that really freaked me out the most.
I don't believe colon cancer runs in my
family but I know cancer does. And my
step-fathers brother just went in for a
colonoscopy and had two polyps removed but
I sssooo don't want a camera shoved up my
butt!!
First question:
I had to look up the real definition of
constipation just to be sure. x.X Since
one of the definitions is infrequent
stools I would have to say yes. It's a
rare week when I don't go two or three
days without having any bowel movements.
Second:
Kind of. Well, yes. It's also been
softer and easier to pass since before my
symptoms started. That doesn't make a lot
of sense to me but I'm going to take it as
a good thing because a well-formed stool
is supposed to be that way.
Third:
They started off very, very painful. But
when I would lie down they would lessen.
Now they are discomforting but no where
near the painful magnitude they used to
be.
The information on the internet is very
very alarming. But when that RN replied
to my question over at Yahoo and said that
fresh, or red, blood is more a sign of
hemorrhoids or something less severe than
colon cancer or polyps I was a little
eased.
I sometimes fine myself to be a little of
a hypocandriac, especially when it comes
to WebMD. I can't even remember what I
was looking up but it told me one of the
conditions I could have was a brain tumor.
That one I didn't pay any attention to so
I've sort of lost faith in the whole
online self-diagnosis.
Congratulations on your daughter!
I live in a house with a smoker so even
though I don't smoke, I'm still exposed to
second hand smoke. And good luck with
your quit plan! I know how hard it is, my
mother has tried three times and just
can't beat it.
Maybe we better knock a notch off my
health description. I don't nearly enough
exercise as I should. I work at Wal-Mart
in the electronic departments so I do a
good deal of running around and heavy
lifting while working, but on my days off
I am inactive. You see right through me,
I spend a lot of time on the computer when
I'm not working.
I think I am going to go to the doctor
next week. I have yet to fill in parents
in on the severity of my symptoms and if I
had I'm sure I would have been sitting in
the emergency room faster than anyone
could blink. There are too many excuses
I've come up with already for not going to
the doctor. I'm insured under my father
and he has the kind of insurance where the
out of pocket expenses are up to 5,000
dollars and he was just recently diagnosed
with diabetes so my poor little part time
Wal-Mart job really won't do much in
paying for a colonoscopy and god know what
else I will have to do.
And I have a severe case of social anxiety
so explaining to a doctor what my stool
looks like is going to be possibly the
most uncomfortable situation of my
lifetime.
I've been keeping track of what I eat
since the beginning of the week and what
my stool looks like, yes that's been fun,
so I'm hoping that will better help a
doctor diagnose me.
I think that's it so far! I appreciate
your reply like you wouldn't believe.
It's comforting to know someone else is
experiencing this and is so knowledgeable
about it!
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slpjab
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Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 13
Posted: 07-19-07 17:48pm
Actually, I do know how you feel about
finding someone who has the same symptoms.
It's made me feel a lot better as far as
my nerves go.
Have you read up on anything such as
Coeliac's? I read on a post on yahoo a
few lines down two people thought it may
be that.
I'd like to ask: Where exactly is the
pain you feel in your abdomen? Mine seem
to be right near my hipbone on both the
left and right side. Which is strange
since they say that a pain in the left
side could be a colon problem such as ibs
or diverticulitis and the right side
doesn't support that, really. That
supports an inflammation of the bowel.
Running loops, are we?
It is also very strange because, according
to diagrams, the area between those two
"pain spots" is also affected and sore.
Placing my pain in the small intestine,
too. My pains have not been
uncontrollable to me, although, I will
say, that my tolerance to pain is pretty
good and things that affect you adversely
might not affect me much. My fiance
doesn't understand how I handle pain so
well.
I just had a bm and it wasn't as much as
usual, but the diameter of it seemed to be
bigger than yesterday (a little) and I
could see no blood in it.
I'm starting to wonder if the red specs in
my bm from yesterday is actually from the
beats. That still doesn't explain that
sack, I'm afraid.
I'm curious to hear of exactly where you
pain is as this MAY be an indication of
what you have and how closely related our
symptoms are.
I, too, can be sort of a hypochondriac
about what is wrong with me. I also went
on WebMD for a neck pain and they made it
seem like I was gonna die from a tumor.
Not the case. I was worried, though. I
felt worse when I read that and better
when I forgot about what it said.
Stress can also be a factor in sensing
pain. I've proven that quite nicely
myself and think people can make
situations in their body worse by
worrying. So, I hope I've helped to calm
your nerves, at least, a little.
Today my pains haven't been extreme, but
I've experienced a sort of slight burning
and itching simultaneously. Have you
experienced this?
Hope you're feeling ok.
Joe
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Angelkins
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Joined: 16 Jul 2007 Posts: 6
Posted: 07-19-07 22:19pm
I just started looking over stuff about
Celiacs to rule that as a possible
problem. I’m looking for a list of food
that has gluten in it so I can eat it and
test to see if it sets my symptoms off but
so far I haven’t some up with anything
yet.
When I first started experiencing the
worst of my symptoms I was eating a great
deal amount of pasta though so I’m
wondering if that could be a sign that I
have Celiacs or not.
My pain is lower. I would say about two
or three inches below my belly button and
in the middle. Sometimes it stretches
around the sides and will happen on the
back of my left side.
This pain I have zero tolerance for.
Which sounds weird considering I have two
tattoos. I’ve never really taken pain
that well so I’m not socked. I’m sure
I’m exaggerating how bad it is but then
again, I don’t handle pain well.
I haven’t had any BM’s since Monday so
I am a little concerned on that part as
well. Though I read that it is normal for
people to usually only have them three
times a week and less is a sign of IBS
usually. I’m sure I’m experiencing
constipation now.
I’ve checked out the pain on WebMD and
all it came up with was that localized
pain is a sign of something more definite
than generalized pain. Thanks a lot for
the golden nugget of info, WebMD.
Last night I had some discomfort while I
was going to bed but it passed before I
fell asleep. I’m pretty sure it was
pain from the constipation.
Right now I am having my usual low pains
in the stomach. I’m going to test is
lying down makes it fell better. As usual
lying down is the golden ticket to getting
the pain to lessen.
Though this time I’m not experiencing
the bloating, fullness, or frequent urge
to go to the bathroom symptoms I used to
get. I think that is because I’m just
having constipation/gas pains.
I’ve never had burning but I have has
itching. And all at random, really bad
times for it to happen as well.
I think we might be medical mysteries!
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slpjab
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Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 13
Me Again Posted: 07-19-07 23:03pm
Today my fiance and I took our baby and
our puppy pug for a walk. I wanted to see
if my recent hibernative tendencies could
have been a cause for my symptoms. I
still have not passed a satisfactory bm
yet. I'm used to one healthy bm daily. I
will say that I do feel better and my
pains have subsided getting a little
exercise, but I still feel extremely
bloated and I hear major gas rumbly in my
tumbly.
I have another question: Are you
sensitive to lactose or more specifically
cow's milk? I have been extremely
sensitive to cow's milk since I was a
child, but that wholesome goodness and
great taste I could never give up. So, I
have never regulated my milk intake. A
small 8oz glass would usually do nothing
but give me gas, but a full size glass or
more would give me violent diarrhea.
Maybe my ignorance caused this?
When I get constipated I drink a lot of
milk. It helps me get out what is stuck
in. I'm starting to wonder if that was a
bad idea. I, too, am going to check out a
low gluten diet to see if that's what it
is.
I read in an article that stated a few
things that could be related to Coeliac's
and sensitivity to cow's milk was in the
list, but I couldn't find any other
correlation as it wasn't linked. I'm
curious to know if you also have this
sensitivity.
My pains are also in the middle about
where you have yours and from what I've
seen of diagrams, that would be where the
small intestine is. You urinate
frequently? For a male I believe I also
urinate more frequent than most other
males. Embarrassing to say I had a bit of
a bed wetting problem when I was younger.
A correlation there, too? I think these
are all symptoms of Coeliac's. (don't
know the early bed wetting is)I also read
that most people that have it are never
even diagnosed. So, maybe that's why we
didn't have symptoms until now?
I can't find any other article or person
that has ever experienced these small
sacks of blood. This makes me think that
it just has to be coming from the same
thing. But, wouldn't everything we've
looked up and have symptoms of describe
them in some way? You may be right, darn
medical mysteries.
I still have a hard time believing that it
would be cancer. It may be denial, but
I'm healthy and it doesn't run in my
family. Plus, we're not supposed to have
to worry about this until we're in our
40's.
How old is your stepbrother? What were
his symptoms?
I really have noticed that my pains are
feeling more like bloatedness and less
like pain. How long did your pains last
each episode? Mine started yesterday and
went on for about 28hrs. I slept through
some of it and it wasn't always bad. In
fact, I wouldn't even describe it as bad.
It was mostly annoying, worrying, and
abnormal. I did have some brief periods
where it did hurt, though.
I'll be on the computer all night. I have
to watch the baby while my love rests for
work. I'll check periodically to see if
you have responded.
Another thing I just remember to ask.
Have you had any discolored bm besides the
mucus covering? I have seen this before,
too. I don't remember that last time as
it's been quite awhile, but I've seen it.
If you have a black bm, go get help asap.
I had a darker color bm yesterday, but it
was green. And that means one of two
things: it either came out too quick or
too slow. I thought this is what they may
consider a black bm, but it's not. So, if
you have a green one, I don't think you
should panic. I think it actually has to
be black. Meaning that blood has mixed
with the digestive enzymes in your colon
and meaning it's been there long enough to
change color meaning your upper colon is
at risk. Seriously, it sounds like our
small intestines hate us...*sigh*
Hope to hear from you soon.
Joe
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slpjab
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I'm More Ocd Than You! Posted: 07-20-07 07:37am
I'm just about to go to sleep. My
daughter totally has me on a midnight
schedule because she won't sleep at night
and that's when she wants to most
attention. My fiance will be home soon
and relieve me of my parental duties.
I just want you to know that I've never
had such an indepth talk of bms with a
woman before. Even though you are
experiencing close to the same thing, I'd
like to thank you for actually sticking by
and discussing our disgusting experiences.
Truly a site to behold. And, I may be
checking back more often than you
expected, but talking about this truly has
calmed my nerves, at least, a little.
Thank you again.
Anyways I felt a slight itch burn in my
rectum yesterday. Nothing serious or even
too troublesome, but it was unusual
nonetheless. You experience this?
Also last night before my fiance went off
to bed, I noticed that I was relieved of
my pains in my abdomen. This morning they
flared up again and it seemed to happen
after I ate some chili, a high fiber food.
As of right now, I want to see if fiber
was having an adverse effect on me, so I'm
eating (not to my liking) a whole can of
refried beans I found in the cupboard.
*sigh* It contains 84% of the fiber I
need for the day, so this will either
relieve me or tear me apart. If I have no
reaction or pain worsens, I'm going to try
a gluten free diet to see if that helps.
I so hope that this relieves me, because a
whole can is making me sick to my stomach.
Yuck! Although, it is fat free!
How are your symptoms doing? Have a bm
yet? Are you feeling ok? I hope so,
you've in the last day, become my crutch
for keeping my sanity. Whenever I don't
vent for awhile I start thinking the worst
again.
Have you read any interesting articles or
have any other information to offer me?
Well, I'll be up for just a little longer
to make sure the tyke is going to sleep
and choke down the rest of this crap.
Ugh, me and my bright ideas.
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Angelkins
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Joined: 16 Jul 2007 Posts: 6
Posted: 07-20-07 13:54pm
I had a five and a half hour work day
today with some weird things happening.
Taking my dog for a walk later in the
afternoon is on the agenda. I’m going
to see if working more exercise into my
daily routine will help as well.
I don’t think I’ve ever been sensitive
to milk or lactose. That’s a theory I
sort of tested before but sort of gave up
on when I started reading things about
Celiac’s disease because I think I more
fit that profile.
I have some questions for you!
About half an hour to an hour after having
the milk so you get rumbling feelings in
your stomach? I got those a few times and
that is the number one symptom of a
lactose intolerance.
Second, have you been experiencing weight
loss since your symptoms started?
That’s the thing that baffles me the
most because I haven’t lost a pound
since my symptoms started. That’s one
thing that makes me feel better about the
whole cancer thing, one of the signs of
colon cancer is dramatic weight loss but I
haven’t seen that. I’ve had these
symptoms for I want to say over six months
and no weight loss.
How long have you been experiencing your
symptoms?
I just downed a huge glass of milk to see
if in a half an hour I start to feel
rumbly have pain.
Isn’t the problem with Celiac’s with
the small intestine not absorbing the
gluten and getting all ripped up? That
would be a valuable clue right there.
This website was helpful for me. Did you
know you can ever get gluten in your
system from licking a stamp or an
envelope?! This site says that!
It also has a lot of other digestive
related disease and symptoms that might
help pinpoint our problems. Has your pain
always been dull or have you experienced
severe pain?
I do have to urinate frequently, it’s
very inconvenient. Especially nowadays
that movies don’t hit under the two hour
mark anymore. And when I am having a
flare up of symptoms I will go to the
bathroom but it will feel like I can never
get my bladder empty and like I have to
urinate more even though I don’t have
to.
I’ve looked and looked and looked and
nothing seems to even mention a sack of
blood attached to a stool. It just blows
my mind that no one has written about it
or experienced it. That in itself is kind
of alarming.
My stepfather’s brother was in his
50’s, possibly even his 60’s. All I
heard of the story was that he had blood
on his stool for three days and then went
into the doctor, scheduled a colonoscopy
and had two polyps removed.
Two nights ago they would come in little
waves. It would be a dull ache that would
last for like a minute-two minutes and
then go away. Then another one would come
back. Last night I had gas and pressure
pains that didn’t last long either, I
was able to sleep through them fine.
I am still feeling the constipation pains
as I have yet to have any bowel movements.
Now I am starting to get concerned about
that. I’m hoping that glass of milk is
gonna help me out here. Otherwise I am
going to pick up some laxatives tomorrow
if I still haven’t had any.
Thankfully I have never had any strange
colored BMs. Besides the seriously gross
and noticeable mucus that I had on that
one occasion. Since my symptoms have
started, I’ve noticed the color of the
stool getting lighter, they started out
normal brown and have gone to a light
brown.
Which I just looked up and normal stools
are brown to light brown, so not much
cause for concern there.
I can’t remember where I read it, but in
an article I read that blood on the
outside of the stool isn’t necessarily
bad. Most information about colon cancer
scared people into thinking they have
colon cancer because they have blood IN
there stool, which is why it turns black.
So I’m seriously starting to rule out
colon cancer.
Oh man. You are a brave, brave man! I
wouldn’t touch those re-fried beans if
my life depended on it. I’m trying to
have more and more fiber into my diet as
well but its not going to well. Most
fiber-filled foods are nasty. But you
know what they say, fiber makes you
regular and I need to be regular because I
seem to be having a pooping problem!
I did it! I finally said poop!
I’ve been trying everything to keep my
mind off whatever it is that is ailing us,
but the fact that I haven’t had a bowel
movement in going on four days is really
making that difficult. I never actually
though I would want to have one just so I
could make sure it doesn’t have blood or
something on it. I’ll rest a lot easier
after I have some I think.
Other than that, I’m still hunting
around the net for some scraps of info.
You’ll be the first to know if I find
something!
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slpjab
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Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 13
Posted: 07-20-07 17:51pm
What sort of things happened at work?
Exercise helped me feel better
temporarily. I'm hoping it's going to be
help, for the both of us. So far though,
it's only been temporarily.
There's a Celiac's and Coeliac. I had the
two mixed up thinking they were the same
thing. Milk intolerance is possible
related to Coeliac, I believe.
Yes. After I drink milk I get strong
rumbling in my stomach. I guessing
severity of the rumbling depends on
sensitivity.
No. Just like you I have not lost any
wait whatsoever. It's made me feel
better, too, but just because you don't
have a certain symptom doesn't mean you
can rule it out. Although a little more
reassuring.
Well, not very long. I do remember when I
was younger, probably in late high school
years or so, I found one of those sack
things and discarded the event altogether.
I do remember, I think, that it was
passed during a constipation bout.
Recently, it's been about a month and a
half.
Question: Do you have visible bloating in
your abdomen? I have absolutely no fat
around my pelvic area and from the side it
should look completely flat. I looked in
the mirror this morning and the pelvic
region looked like it was bulging out
about a centimeter or so.
My pain was actually pretty bad this
morning. I wouldn't consider that pain
dull. Do you experience relief when you
just lie down? Or when you sleep?
Because for me, lying down only helps for
a little bit, but when I wake up after
sleep I can feel no pain. Until I get up
and move around, that is.
From what I read, yes. That would be
Celiac's, and it could be Coeliac.
Wow, no. Never had a clue that licking a
stamp or envelope could beat someone up.
Well, except for the taste.
I've experienced those same problems. Not
often do I feel like I still have to go,
but it sure has happened. Has it ever
hurt you to go pee?
Same here. I've done many extensive
searches and no one but you and I have
seemed to ever even heard of it. That is
alarming. Or it may not be.
How many people actually pay attention to
their poop? There, I said it too.
Ok. First, I'm sorry. I meant
stepfather's brother. Second, nowhere
near our ages. Hmm.
I've also experienced waves, but lately
the waves have been more of relief than a
wave of pain. Last night I had pains that
would go from dull, to painful, to dull,
to relief. Have you ever experienced
this?
I still have some laxatives here. In
fact, if I don't poop soon, I'm going to
take a stool softener to see if that
helps. Constipation can be a scary while
being uncomfortable. I, too, wanna see if
I'm bleeding yet.
Good thing you've never had any strange
colored bm's. Mine have been a little
green here and there, but what I did pass
yesterday was brown. A light brown, and
not very big at all.
I don't think we have hemorrhoids though.
I didn't see much correlation between
abdominal pain and those. For abdominal
pain all I see is ibs which we no longer
fit because of possible blood. So, we
need to look more deeply at the other
things.
The information you've read is a little
reassuring, people thinking that they have
colon cancer but don't. Ya, the poop will
turn black because of bleeding that is
either in the mouth, esophagus, stomach,
or the very start of the colon. This
happens to be where some of my pain
originates, so when I'm able to get a bm I
can check to see if it's black.
Colon cancer grows out and I don't see and
haven't read that you can have symptoms of
mine that have come and gone. About a
month and a half ago I was constipated. I
could feel the gas go through my spot of
pain that I'm experiencing now. I don't
know if that's a bad sign or not, but
where I felt pressure then (no pain, just
was uncomfortable) I feel pain now. I
just don't see how I can go from being
constipated, I cured that, and my stools
went back to normal completely. About 5
times the size they are now. Maybe even
more. And all of a sudden they are small
again? Too me just doesn't seem to
correlate with cancer. I would figure
once you have the symptoms of cancer, they
must stay. Since symptoms of cancer
usually only come with a more advanced
form. I hope to hell I poop normally
soon...that would be great ease of mind.
Yes, they do say fiber makes you regular.
And yes, the beans were horrible. But
when you gotta poop you gotta poop.
It is very hard to keep my mind off what
is ailing us, too. Without having a bm
and the pain which is new to me makes it
very hard to just forget about it. Me
too, I'd feel much better after I poop.
I haven't felt much fatigue, have you?
I'm with baby all night so fiance can rest
and then I watch the baby when she goes to
work and I'll sleep maybe 5 hours at most
lately and I still feel pretty good, as
far as energy level is concerned. They
say a symptom of cancer is chronic
fatigue. Everyone is fatigued now and
again, but from what I understand it
should be constant.
If I find anything interesting or
important you will also be the first to
know.
There is information, not much, but there
is a little with correlation to lactose
intolerability.
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Angelkins
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Jul 2007 Posts: 6
Posted: 07-20-07 19:52pm
I did some bending, lifting, lots of
walking. But sometimes I would get a
sharp pain on my left side in the front
and back, which made me paranoid about the
colon cancer bit you said about the life
side. Then I started thinking that I
might have appendicitis and I was going to
get really sick at work and have to go to
the emergency room.
Oh, the paranoia.
This Coeliac is Celiac's disease stuff is
really starting to confuse me. I wish the
information on the internet was more
concrete. But unfortunately, the body is
a medical mystery and there is no formula
to this symptom + this symptom = that
problem or that disease.
You really might have lactose
intolerance.
Did you have any dairy last night?
These are the symptoms of lactose
intolerance:
• Bloating.
• Pain or cramps.
• Gurgling or rumbling sounds in your
belly.
• Gas.
• Loose stools or diarrhea.
• Throwing up.
Do you experience mostly just constipation
or diarrhea as well?
Mine does the same thing as well. I lie
down, the pain goes away. I go to sleep
and wake up with not pain. Once I get up
and start moving and bending, I start to
get uncomfortable and almost like I invite
the pain to come.
I just took my dog for a good walk and I
now I can feel my light gas coming back.
I’m thinking of going back out and
walking a few more laps myself to see if
exercise could be my golden ticket to
passing some bowel movements. I would be
so happy.
I don’t think I have any bloating. Like
the poor afflicted women of this species,
I carry a little extra body fat around the
tummy. It looks flat from the front, but
from a side view you can see I got a
little extra going on there.
Is you bloated area tender? Give it a
little, gentle push. My lower abdomen
where my pain has been and my small
intestine is is a little bit tender to the
touch.
For lunch I had ramen noodles which have
wheat in them, so I’m assuming they have
gluten in them, but since eating them I
haven’t felt any symptoms. I don’t
know how long it takes your body to digest
but I would think the ramen would have
been digested already.
That’s okay about the stepfathers
brother, it’s not really that big a deal
so don’t worry about it. I know, that
is why I am a little skeptical to go in.
Most people only have to go in for
colonoscopies after 50 and we still have a
long way to go! I know as soon as we go
into the doctor, they will want to do a
colonoscopy.
Well said. I never used to pay attention
to my poop and I wouldn’t have even
noticed the red blood on the outside of my
stool had it not been for the blood sack.
When I saw that, I had to take a closer
look. That and the time I had mucus on
the outside of my stool, that was truly
freaky.
I’ve sort of had that. Lately I
haven’t had painful ones. They are
dull, dull, discomforting, dull, and then
go away pretty much.
Ugh, I would give anything for a laxative
right now. All I have is pepto bismo and
the only thing closely related that that
stuff is good for is diarrhea. I’m
almost wishing I had that right now
instead of constipation.
Did you have blood on toilet paper or in
the toilet bowel as well?
I was just reading about hemorrhoids and
it is common to have blood on toilet paper
and in the toilet bowel with them. I
don’t have either of those.
Oh my god I don’t even want it to be
hemorrhoids either.
“Your doctor may only examine your
rectum with a gloved finger (digital
rectal exam). Or your doctor may use a
short, lighted scope to look at the rectum
(anoscopy)”
THAT sounds like as much fun as a
colonoscopy!
The itching and burning may be a sign of
hemorrhoids though. That is the only
thing I have found to explain the
itching/burning since it doesn’t relate
to the IBS or Celiac’s disease.
I’ve never had burning while peeing,
thankfully. Is that something you’ve
gotten?
I agree about the reoccurring symptoms. I
can’t honestly say that I am affected by
bad pain or these symptoms every since
day. I’d like to think if it was cancer
I would have dropped weight by now and be
hit with the symptoms a lot more
frequently and regularly than I have.
I’m rarely ever fatigued. If I am,
it’s just because I am feeling lazy. Or
I am riding in a car. Car rides make me
so tired its unbelievable.
It’s still under thought, but I might
take the day off of work tomorrow to see
if I can’t flush the system out. I
don’t really want to be at work when my
body finally does decide it would like to
pass some bowel movements. And I have
this terrible fear that 4 days worth of
stool isn’t going to take a few minutes
to pass. That would be fun to try and
explain to my coworkers where I was.
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slpjab
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 13
Posted: 07-21-07 00:10am
First of all, I wanna say that I just had
a bm!! It was normal size and consistency
again and there were no signs of blood in
it. None on the tp and none on the bowl.
I still have slight cramp sensations,
although my bloating feeling is gone.
The pain on the left side to the back is
what I had just felt before I had to go
poop. Hopefully you've had one or will
have one soon. (poop)
Appendicitis is on the right side and
it'll be excrutiating pain. Don't think
you should worry about that.
Exactly. One site will make me think I
have Coeliac or Celiac or whatever they
wish to call it, then the next will tell
me I don't. I, too, wish this information
was more concrete as it's sending us both
in loops!
I've actually always thought I was lactose
intolerant. Maybe my not staying away
from lactose caused a bacterial infection?
I always have dairy! haha
I've never gotten constipated from milk,
only diarrhea. Sometimes violent.
We have so many of the same symptoms and
just a few that are different.
Maybe your immune system isn't in top
notch? I'm almost wondering if we have
either something going on with bacteria,
or possibly irregularity of the bowel?
Exercise seemed to help, as did the nasty
refried beans I ate. Ugh, the memory.
I'm not certain either of these had an
impact, but I'm going to make sure I
ingest fiber, at least for the moment, and
get good exercise. I don't know if you're
going to want to switch back to fiber, but
I for sure would recommend the exercise.
We can only pray it is our golden ticket,
as you call it.
Yeah, you would figure the ramens would be
broken down almost instantly given their
consistency. I'm glad to hear your
symptoms didn't flare from it, but you
still need to poop.
Since my bm, I seem to be feeling at least
75% better. Which is very relieving since
I felt horrible this morning before
ingesting that crud. I spend a lot of
time at this computer, especially since
Jolee was born, and I spend a lot of time
hunching over. Possibly I pinched
something with my pelvis? You do this
too? In fact, the last time I remember
having the blood sack thing I think I was
putzing around on the computer quite a
bit, as it's been one of my hobbies. I
remember sitting up was more comforting.
Maybe we could try to make sure our colons
have room to squeeze it out. Might
possibly be why we feel better and like
movements are possible when we move
around. Should try it.
That day all the blood I saw was in that
sack. I saw what I thought to be blood on
my poop and the tp, but I truly believe it
was from beats the night before. I ate a
whole can, so I guarantee that's probably
the reason. Other than the sack, no
blood at all. I had a little blood on my
poop when I was constipated a month and a
half ago, but I'm actually 100% certain
that it was from the evacuation. The
blood was sparse, a spec or two on the
poop and more from wiping. Meaning during
evac it made a fissure.
None of those tests sound appealing, but
whether or not my symptoms get better,
when my grandma is back from Peru, I'm
going in regardless. I'd suggest you do
the same.
Rarely. It seems to burn a little when I
stress to have a bm.
How often do your symptoms flare? This is
the first time I've had bloating and this
kind of pain. This is so I can get an
idea.
Yeah, car rides. Minds drift and
weariness follows.
Hello. I am a celiac, so any questions
you have about it I would be happy to
answer. Gluten is found in wheat, rye,
oats and barley, so anything containing
those ingredients has gluten in it. You
actually have to go really out of your way
to avoid-it is in everything. The way to
be tested for Celiac disease is to have an
upper endoscopy performed. Also some lab
tests can help provide the physician with
information.
Lactose intolerance goes hand-in-hand with
celiac disease because the damage done to
the small intestine occurs in the area
where lactase is produced (the villi in
the small intestine). These are flattened
and blunted when a celiac ingests gluten.
It triggers an auto immune reponse and
your white blood cells are "misinformed"
by your body which mistakes them for
invading organisms. They attack in the
small intestine, and the villi become
"casualties of war" so to speak. Feel
free to pm me with specific
questions-there are a lot of helpful
websites. Continue to post here as well.
It is very confusing and difficult to
understand at times.
*Edited to add: PLease see the sticky
under "celiac disease" for more
information
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slpjab
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 13
Lactose Intolerance And Celiac Posted: 07-31-07 16:52pm
That kind of sets it in stone for me about
being a celiac. I have looked over the
internet incessantly about what I could
have. Now, I understand that
self-diagnosis is nothing compared to a
diagnosis from a personal physician, so my
intention has never been to replace
actually going and seeing a doctor, but to
inform myself of whether or not I actually
have something serious.
According to what I've found and what a
few people have told me, I do indeed have
Celiac. I took your advice visited that
site, and come payday I will be ordering
the at-home "poop test" for the $369.
Right now I'm in the middle of acquiring
insurance and this test is by far the most
sensible choice as far as affordability
goes. Plus, I live in a small rural area
that doesn't have the more sophisticated
technology and information, so I'd also
like to see a specialist.
I'm a little uncomfortable about going in
and having a doctor probe me, so it's a
relief to at least get some information
before I actually go in.
I do have a few questions for you,
though:
1. How/when did you first start noticing
symptoms and what were they like?
2. Would they come and go regardless of
what you ate or was it determined by what
you ate?
3. I've noticed lately that eating a lot
of gluten gives me moderate pain and makes
me extremely irritable. It also hurts
sometimes when I don't think that I've
eaten gluten and sometimes it doesn't hurt
when I'm pretty sure I've eaten gluten.
Is this normal?
4. I don't hurt at all if I don't feel
constipated. Normal?
5. There's a few pinpoint places that I
feel bloating, pain, or constipation. It's
in my lower abdomen starting about 2-3
inches from both the left and right side
of my hipbone and stretches together in
between. Typical?
Also, I've noticed that when I do have
pain or bloating it is in the spots that I
felt bubbling or gurgling when I drank too
much milk. That makes me think that the
Celiac, if I do have it, started because
of my lack of regard for not drinking milk
when I realized I was lactose intolerant.
Now knowing that I could have a serious
condition, I've made up my mind to go in
and see a physician, but all the info that
you are willing to give me would be much
appreciated.
I'm going to start a gluten-free diet
before I even see the doctor just to make
sure I don't damage my little villi even
more. I've read that it could take up to
2 years for my intestine to heal. Will it
take that long for me to have normal bm's
again on a daily basis?
Thanks
Joe
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Re: Lactose Intolerance And Celiac Posted: 07-31-07 23:20pm
slpjab
wrote:
I do have a few questions for you,
though:
1. How/when did you first start noticing
symptoms and what were they
like?
I noticed off an on symptoms from late
elementary school on. Ther ewere periods
of time in my life where I vividly
remember haivng terrible tummy issues, but
it wasn't until I was diagnosed did it all
make sense to me. The periods of time
when my problem was most active was during
periods of stress or extreme changes, such
as puberty, my parent's divorce, my
wedding, and after having surgery and then
children. I remember vague stomach
discomfort and bloating for periods of
time as a child. As an adult my symptoms
got worse and I ended up being unable to
eat due to the horrible nausea and
cramping. I lost a ton of weight and was
about 97 pounds when I finally got
diagnosed.
slpjab
wrote:
2. Would they come and go
regardless of what you ate or was it
determined by what you
ate?
It was what I ate. The problem is that
wheat is in soooo many things that we just
never think about.
slpjab
wrote:
3. I've noticed lately that
eating a lot of gluten gives me moderate
pain and makes me extremely irritable. It
also hurts sometimes when I don't think
that I've eaten gluten and sometimes it
doesn't hurt when I'm pretty sure I've
eaten gluten. Is this
normal?
The one thing I have discovered about
Celiac is that although there is a set of
"normal" symptoms and reactions for
Celiacs, there are equally as many
oppisite symptoms of celiac disease. It
is a very inconsisitent thing. Eating
Gluten will also cause me lower abdominal
pain and bloating, unsightly bowels, and I
get quite irritable as well. "Brain Fog"
is what I refer to it as. Also, I think
the prevalence of hidden glutens in our
processed food diet makes it quite
difficult for us to really know what is in
our food.
slpjab
wrote:
4. I don't hurt at all if I
don't feel constipated.
Normal?
Again, see rule #2-nothing is really
normal. I don't really know if that would
be considered normal or not.
slpjab
wrote:
5. There's a few pinpoint
places that I feel bloating, pain, or
constipation. It's in my lower abdomen
starting about 2-3 inches from both the
left and right side of my hipbone and
stretches together in between.
Typical?
That did seem to be my pain distributions
as well. It was always in the lower
abdomen. For me it was a cramping pain.
slpjab
wrote:
Also, I've noticed that when
I do have pain or bloating it is in the
spots that I felt bubbling or gurgling
when I drank too much milk. That makes me
think that the Celiac, if I do have it,
started because of my lack of regard for
not drinking milk when I realized I was
lactose
intolerant.
Ususally Lactose INtolerance among Celiacs
is a symptom of the celiac disease, not
the other way around. It is the damage
done through the autoimmune response that
triggers our inability to ingest lactose
for the period of time when we are ill.
ONce the damage begins to reverse and
heal, you might very well regain the
abiliyt to consume dairy again.
slpjab
wrote:
Now knowing that I could
have a serious condition, I've made up my
mind to go in and see a physician, but all
the info that you are willing to give me
would be much appreciated.
I'm going to start a gluten-free diet
before I even see the doctor just to make
sure I don't damage my little villi even
more. I've read that it could take up to
2 years for my intestine to heal. Will it
take that long for me to have normal bm's
again on a daily
basis?
IF you are going to seek a medical opinion
for this, I do not reccommend you going on
a gluten free diet until after the testing
is completed. When you stop eating gluten
containing foods the lab results from your
blood and any endoscopy which could be
performed would be innaccurate, as the
results of such tests are positive only
when the patient is currently consuming
gluten.
I hope you found this information helpful,
and let me know how things are going.
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slpjab
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 13
Re: Lactose Intolerance And Celiac Posted: 08-02-07 03:02am
You've really been a great help and I'd
like to thank you. I've been extremely
confused and stressed out about what has
been going on with me.
I actually decided to start my gluten-free
diet. I know that I have to eat gluten
prior to testing to be able to test if I
have the gluten in my blood/stool, but
I've got insurance I still have to
straighten out before I go in to get my
physicians advice. That's why I am
getting the home stool test when I get
paid, because it is the most economical
thing for me.
I've gone the whole day consuming only
what I knew for certain did not contain
gluten and it's the first time in like two
weeks that I haven't had that annoying
pain in my lower abdomen. I'm almost
certain now that Celiac is indeed what I
have and will continue to monitor/post my
progress. I figured if after a week of
gluten-free food and my symptoms get even
better, I will test it by eating
gluten-containing food. If I hurt, then I
will know for certain.
Not yesterday, but the day before I ate a
pb&j on butterwheat bread and had
moderate irritation, so I can correlate my
symptoms with Celiac.
What concerns me, though, is that if I've
had it since I was a kid (I've had lactose
intolerance since then) I might have
really damaged myself and find myself
wondering why I didn't have more profuse
symptoms earlier.
My bm's are sort of returning to normal,
I'm still a bit constipated and despite
feeling the bloatedness from that I feel
no pain. Which makes me feel better
because I'm starting to feel like I have
some closure coming closer to knowing what
I have.
Again, thank you. Your time has been
greatly valued and appreciated.