legopipe
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Fibromyalgia Is It Psychological
Posted: 07-13-07 02:35am
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Is fibromyalgia psychological condition or
is it both psychological adn physical?
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dave01
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Posted: 07-15-07 19:16pm
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Is arthritis psychological and physical?
I don't think so, nor is any other
autoimmune disorder. The only reason I
think those of us with fybromyalgia get
tossed into the psychological bin is that
it is so hard to diagnose that the doctors
(including many I saw) use psychology when
all else fails. In my case I was told I
had depression before getting a clear
diagnosis of fibro. I went through
treatment for depression and discovered
that I was very, very different. I had no
stresses in my life that would cause
depression, other than the extreme pain.
Likewise, none of the other folks I met
with depression suffered from any physical
pain. I discovered that my pain levels
had no correlation in my life with any
stresses. The pain would come and it
would go quite apart from what was
happening in my brain. I finally saw a
psycholoigist who started off by telling
me that my pain was real, genuine,
physical pain and not psychosomatic (as my
doctor thought) or the result of
depression. He said he could do nothing
for me and that I needed medical help. I
am getting help now and do not see the
slightest reason to consider this disease
to be anything other than a disorder with
genuine physical causes and nothing more.
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stormyf2
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Posted: 07-30-07 02:53am
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once you have it no one will ever need to
ask that question again!!!
it is 10000000000% real physical
pain!!!!!!!!!! 
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Tmddyan
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Hey
Posted: 08-08-07 13:09pm
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beleive me its real. the problem with
some conditions is that it gets blamed to
being all in the head because either
someone cant see that there is something
wrong or they dont understand cause they
cant feel what you feel.---to these people
id like to give it to them for oh say 10
min. then tell them to live like that for
a long time. (they usually say no
thanks.
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JustT
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Posted: 08-10-07 08:09am
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It's not the least bit psychological, but
sadly that stigma is so hard to get rid
off. More education, getting the word out
about it, that is the only way to relieve
those of us that suffer from it from the
stigma of "it's all in your head." We can
do a little, but really it's doctors who
need to educate themselves more and the
medical community that needs to spread the
message that this is very real and very
troubling for a lot of people.
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marytartor
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Posted: 08-10-07 17:41pm
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Saying that it is completley physical is a
little bit misleading though...It is a
physical condition in which your body
feels genuine pain. However, women who
have an SOME sort of anxiety disorders are
more likely by 35% to suffer from fibro.
Some doctors link it to sleep disorders...
So what I am trying to say is though it is
physical syndrome it can be exacerbated by
mental things.
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JustT
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Posted: 08-10-07 18:41pm
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"So what I am trying to say is though it
is physical syndrome it can be exacerbated
by mental things."
I think that could apply to nearly every
disease and condtion there is. I just
think it's really important to erase any
notion that fibro (or chronic fatigue for
that matter) is a psychosomatic or
psychological condition.
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dave01
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Posted: 08-10-07 19:36pm
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I agree entirely that it is 100% physical.
I am a man, and not a woman. My first
problem was a heightened sensitivity to
odors, then came the increasing insomnia,
and then came the increasing pain - all
physical disorders and not at all related
to any stress.
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grassy
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Fibro Is Real
Posted: 08-11-07 12:43pm
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hi everyone, i'm cindy, i think that it is
REAL! when ever something like this comes
along and no one can fix it, they say it
is psycological. that is just a way to
shift the blame back on to the patient.
love cindy
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marytartor
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Posted: 08-11-07 19:35pm
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I wasn't saying it it wasn't physical
disorder. I have it I know it is physical.
However, there are psychological links to
it, science backs that...I also know that
when I get stressed it is worse. And
saying that it applys to every syndrome is
silly, because it doesn't.
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JustT
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Posted: 08-11-07 20:29pm
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Saying stress makes fibromyalgia worse and
saying fibromyalgia is partly a
psychological problem are two different
things. Maybe I'm hyper sensitive to it
considering it took many years of being
told I was depressed and it was all in my
head before I got a diagnosis of fibro and
cfs, but I think saying it's partly
psychological implies it is caused by
depression or anxiety disorder or some
other psychological condition that causes
psychosomtic symptoms. Stress does not
fall into this category. Everyone
experiences stress. Everyone does not
experience depression, panic attacks,
etc.
And, yes, it is proven that "mental
things" as you say, such as positive or
negative attitude can play a role in even
diseases like cancer.
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marytartor
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Posted: 08-11-07 21:04pm
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"but I think saying it's partly
psychological implies it is caused by
depression or anxiety disorder or some
other psychological condition that causes
psychosomtic symptoms."
but it can be caused by mental
disorders...And I know what it is like to
be told that I have depression, and I just
didn't know it! But science backs it that
fibromyalgia has physical and
psychological links.
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burchett4
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Just Have to Put My Two Cents In
Posted: 10-05-07 19:27pm
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ok 32 here and have been fighting this for
at least 10 yrs and i have read other
posts and got really upset belive me it is
all physical pain ok maybe you get
depressed but anyone would that has to
live with this horrible thing. I never
thought at 32 i would be not able to work
two bad knees and living sometimes is to
hard to face so yes yes yes it is real
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seattlesalsa
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What About An Emotional Connection?
Posted: 10-07-07 23:11pm
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I have a good friend who struggles with
fibro and has been for many years. She
has seen many specialists and is learning
that it is also connected to her emotional
past and life.
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 10-08-07 14:07pm
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| JustT
wrote: | "So what I am trying to say
is though it is physical syndrome it can
be exacerbated by mental things."
I think that could apply to nearly every
disease and condtion there is. I just
think it's really important to erase any
notion that fibro (or chronic fatigue for
that matter) is a psychosomatic or
psychological
condition. |
this is true--we tend to worry about it
and it makes it worse--at least in my
experience. i dont know about the rest of
you.
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ginamarie
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Yes It's Real!
Posted: 12-03-07 09:39am
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Fibromyalgia is real disease. Most doctors
are finally admitting that now. If you
have a doctor that doesn't believe it,
(mostly old school doctors) than it's time
to find yourself another doctor. There's a
new med out there called lyrica and I'm
currently taking it and I swear it's a
miracle drug. Ask your doctor if it's
right for you. You will be amazed at how
much better you feel. Your pain with be
tolerable and you'll almost be back to
normal.
Sincerely
Gina McNamara, RN
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Posted: 01-11-08 02:10am
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A lot of people who are dx with fibro find
that they have a sleep disorder, such as
not having a lot of the deep stage four
sleep. During that stage, you get the deep
sleep needed to rejuvenate your body. I
have over 200 alpha sleep intrusions in
one night. As a result, I wake up feeling
immense pain. I believe there is a
correlation. Some days are better than
others. So, with mine there is proof that
I do have something.
I will never forget when I first
experienced fibro symptoms. My former
primary doctor gave me a bunch of blood
work and when they all came back negative,
he said that everything is in my head and
referred me to a psychiatrist. Well, it is
in my head when you consider that a sleep
disorder is neurological. The pain centers
are in my "head" as well that was telling
me, "You are in pain!"
That was the worst doctor I ever had!! I
fired him. I have never felt like such
crap. I was in SO much pain I could hardly
drive to the doctor's office and then to
be told that I am "imagining" it all, just
threw me over the edge.
I heard that new medication works wonders.
I had a friend who took it for her severe
fibro and it did make her gain 30 pounds.
She said it wasn't worth it. Gina, is that
a common side effect?
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