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TMJ And Facial Swelling On Mandible

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When the TMJ first hit I didn't know up from down about it. The left side of my face was ablaze with pain. I've had two previous bouts with this facial pain and am on my third bout. The bouts usually last for 2 or 3 days. This time it is only minor pain and 1 ibuprofen every 3 hours takes care of the pain.

What is happening this bout is facial swelling on the left center mandible area inside the skin or so it appears to be inside the skin. The swelling doesn't protrude to the inside of my mouth but the outside covers the area of a baseball and makes me look like I have a big cud in my mouth.

I ice pack it three times a day. I am just wondering and haven't found out yet why the swelling is taking place. I had minor swelling during the last painful bout of TMJ because I used Capzasin in the area of the putuitary gland behind the mandible and that burnt like you could not believe. This time I had some pain in the left mandible area so I used Icy Hot. Now my cheek from the mandible up past my mouth is swollen and I don't know what's causing the swelling. Maybe nerve? The good thing is the TMJ pain is gone. If I have to swell my face up using Icy Hot to get rid of the TMJ pain, well, I'll take the swelling any day over the TMJ pain.

Yes, I have neck knots and found three cheek knots during my first bout of TMJ pain. Three places in my left neck are sore to the touch so I expect the knots are there since I read this is the signs of the knot areas.

I'd sure like to hear from other people concerning the TMJ, knots and especially the facial swelling since I haven't come to any conclusions about the swelling yet.

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replied November 4th, 2011
Did u finmd a cure? I have swelling too....for 3 weeks now. Help
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replied November 4th, 2011
Hi Sandra!

I here yah! No I didn't find a cure. The ice helped a little but it's a no go.

I don't know yet where the swelling was originating from but I suspect it's coming from the bottom of the mandible straight down from where your lips end. This is where the petuatary gland is (spelling may be wrong). This is where all the nerves run through the bone.

I did have my gums swell around a tooth in my first bout with TMJ and found out it was a nerve causing it. Cure the nerve and the swelling goes away.

I don't know about the facial swelling yet but I suspect it's a disturbed nerve causing the swelling. I am presently under the impression the nerves that run through and come out of the mandible where I stated the swelling was originating from are messed up.

Doctors don't know. Doctors don't have any treatment. We are on our own.

Try messaging the bottom of the mandible and apply ice under the mandible. Also try neck stretching exercises especially stretching the muscles that connect to your mandible or in the mandible area under the mandible in the neck. "DON'T USE CAPZASIN!". Your face will be on fire if you put this cream on the bottom of the mandible where these nerves are and your face will really inflate. I tried Capzasin in this area and I found out all right. This experiance with Capzasin is another reason why I am under the impression the TMJ and facial swelling comes from under the mandible and "Not The Big Nerve In Front Of The Ear".

Everything I read states the Big Nerve in front of the ear is where TMJ originates but through my own painful experiances I am getting more positive results dealing with the nerves running through the mandible and exiting halfway through the mandible. There's a little hole about halfway through the mandible where the nerves exit into the cheek skin and I think this set of nerves coming out of the little hole in the mandible is the problem.

Good Luck and massage the area under the mandible where these nerves are. Let me know how you are coming along because I want to cure this condition too.
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replied November 4th, 2011
Thank you for all the information! I thought you had posted this last year. so are you still swollen? I have seen dentist, oral surgeons, ent's, urgent care docs, ER docs, Acupuncturist and no one can tell me what it is. some say its TMJ ..some say its not- I think it is because all the symptoms are TMJ symptoms. They say that TMJ doesnt make your face swell up. weird thing is only my right side is swollen. is your face swollen in both sides? I came accross some information about dentist that specialize in botox for TMJ. Have you heard about that? I also came across Neuromuscular therapist or trigger point therapist. i made an appt at a massage envy sunday for a cranial massage and trigger point massage- i heard it relieves the stress in the face, back, neck, shoulders. have you tried any of these? i also read that apple vinegar helps swelling. i feel so helpless.
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replied November 4th, 2011
Hi Sandra,

Like I stated doctors don't know up from down about TMJ and the facial swelling. I like doctors but they are a money waste when it comes to TMJ. Just tossing good money away after bad money as the saying goes. That goes the same for dentists. I had a good tooth pulled for no reason and it cost me $180.00 right before I realized nobody knew "NOTHING" about TMJ and the facial swelling.

OK, my symptoms have gone away. The swelling went down after about 1 week. I still have a dull pressure type feeling in the area of my left face but that's it until the pain and symtoms decide to come back. I started listening to people that have had some minor success on the internet and it's unknown to me if these treatments did the trick but the TMJ and swelling conditions went away even though they do come back from time to time but only last for 3 or 4 days.

* The massage is good. "Learn How To Do The Stretching Exercises" yourself after a few appointments with the therapist. Trigger points are hard to deal with in certain muscles and it can get expensive.

* Start taking "Magnesium" everyday. Takes along time for the Magnesium to fully absorb into your muscles but you might get some relief sooner. Everything in your body works off of Magnesium. Medication and food doesn't work without Magnesium.

* Some doctors freeze trigger points then pull the muscle to break it loose so keep find the starting point of the swelling and ice pack it. If your cheek is swollen the possible starting point is as I stated in your lower jaw where the nerves come out of the jaw bone.

* Your spinal vertebra may have some kind of roll to play. I've talked to people who have stated they went to a Chiropractor and have had success. I didn't go to a Chiropractor but I did look into the possibility of it and the Chiropractor I looked into had TMJ neck alignment equipment to align the 1st cervical vertebra in your neck where your head attaches. My vertebra were messed up and I knew this by running my finger down my back and the lumps were not aligned and twisted. It took me a few months but I learned how to pop them back in saving me tons of money.

As I stated I am drawing a conclusion for experiances and research that TMJ and the facial swelling is "Nerve" related and all self treatments I give myself seem to support this conclusion. "Just Have To Find The Bad Nerve".

"Nerves Can Cause Swelling". An aggravated nerve can cause major swelling and bad pain far away from the damaged nerve. A bad nerve can cause pain a long way away from the actual damaged nerve (a bad face nerve can cause pain in the neck and shoulders)(a bad pinched spinal nerve can cause pain in the extremities or far away from the pinched spot).

Always see a doctor but your swelling problem is most likely nerve related as far as I can tell from your statement. Getting the nerve "Unpinched" or take the pressure off of it by getting rid of the trigger point lumps is probably the way to go. Finding the pinched or nerve that has the pressure damage on it is the hard thing to do.

Also I forgot to mention the pertuatary gland behind your lower jaw mandible has a major nerve running through it. Yes, your pertuatary gland can get "infected". Your pertuatary glands produce all the saliva in your mouth and bacteria can get into the gland opening in your mouth and infect the gland causing swelling and putting pressure on the nerve running through the gland.

OK, please keep me posted on your experiances. Everything I stated is from my own experiances and I would like to find the correct answers to this facial swelling also and TMJ if I'm not correct.

Thanks Sandra!
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replied November 5th, 2011
Thank you for your help! I will try all of this. Ill keep you posted.
Sandra
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replied June 30th, 2012
I have been dealing with extreme symptoms for about four years, but now have swelling on the right side of my face. No toothache, just swelling that has been developing for the past two days.
I'm so grateful to see that it isn't just me. You're right about not getting help from doctors, which is discouraging. I did receive some helpful treatments from a chiropractor and massage therapists a couple of years ago.
Ice packs, eh? I'll do that. I'm so tired of this.
Thanks for your info.
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replied January 22nd, 2012
I am trying to figure out a neck pain that goes from back of head to ear then to top of head. I start out in the am ok if I take ibuprofin before bed but by 12:00 or 1:00 pm I feel like I want to cut my head off. A few months ago a dentist made me a mouth guard because of ear pain and I wore it 3 nights and suddenly all my pain was over. Could this be something similar? I hesitate to wear the guard because it was extrememly painful the second and third night.
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replied July 9th, 2012
left-sided face, neck, head swelling
Is anyone still having swelling on one side of the face? Mine has been occurring for 6 years, and just happened again. This time I pushed on my jaw under my ear and the swelling has already started going away. My face and tongue are not swollen anymore and hopefully my neck and head will follow soon. I just could not face another ER or doctor saying they had no idea. So I took care of it myself. Neck swelling is gone as I type and so is head swelling. So, now I know- pressure points. They work for my back and lower neck and now my face. Hope this helps someone else. It sure helped me to read that I wasn't the only one with this problem.
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replied January 20th, 2013
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@nanaseuss4, Where are the pressure points?
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replied April 30th, 2013
TMJ I am in Hell
Hello I have been dealing with what I think is TMJ for months! My jaw cracks on the right hand side when I yawn or when I eat. I tend to also only chew food on my left side due to the cracking on the right. I am in hell!

I must clench my jaw or grind my teeth at night. I wake up every morning exhausted like I have been busy all night.

I have bad swelling every day where my pain is on the left side of my face in my cheek and my jaw muscle. I experience headaches and pain above my left eye all day and night. This is really effecting me and my livelihood, I am even feeling depressed. I have gone to the Doctor and I am off for blood tests, I am afraid I have something worse of course. I am also booked in to see my Dentist to get a mouth guard to wear at night time.
I will post to let you know if anything improves for me.

Does anyone experience what I am going through? I am so worried and it seems the more I stress about it or think about it the worse my nights are and the swelling is awful.

Jennifer - Australia
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replied June 5th, 2013
Tmj cheek swelling
Jennifer I have the exact same problem and I'm getting a night guard made from the royal dental hospital in Melbourne. Has the guard worked? Contact me if you can I'm from australia too
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replied August 21st, 2013
Just to follow up the guard didnt work it was massive and hurt me. Im now seeing Holistic Dentistry in Donvale. Cost me $400 for my first visit. Dont know whats going to help me. Im so over it I feel like ending my life some times
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replied October 10th, 2013
Please don't lose hope. I felt great relieve to realize that it is just part of TMD condition to feel nervous, depressed, tired, etc. It is a very natural to feel this way. This is because the jaw is the most neurologically significant joint in the body. There is a bundle of nerves and ganglion around the mouth and jaw which enable it to perform functions from linguistics to emotional expression and are directly connected to all of your neurological activity. There are 160 muscles - on each side of the jaw. It is the only joint in the body which can perform roll, pitch, and yaw. It is a remarkable part of the body. But when it becomes irritated, stressed, inflamed, and out of proper alignment, it puts our nervous system on the fritz. See an orthodontist to get a hard mouth splint and make sure they adjust it regularly until they know if a more permanent solution is in order. Try stress reduction techniques, a good PT will be able to show you intra-oral stretches such as the "release the jaw" method and the "enlarge and relax the throat" technique. There are certain topical creams and plenty of other products and activities which can help. Don't give up. It can get better.
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replied October 10th, 2013
Please don't lose hope. I felt great relieve to realize that it is just part of TMD condition to feel nervous, depressed, tired, etc. It is a very natural to feel this way. This is because the jaw is the most neurologically significant joint in the body. There is a bundle of nerves and ganglion around the mouth and jaw which enable it to perform functions from linguistics to emotional expression and are directly connected to all of your neurological activity. There are 160 muscles - on each side of the jaw. It is the only joint in the body which can perform roll, pitch, and yaw. It is a remarkable part of the body. But when it becomes irritated, stressed, inflamed, and out of proper alignment, it puts our nervous system on the fritz. See an orthodontist to get a hard mouth splint and make sure they adjust it regularly until they know if a more permanent solution is in order. Try stress reduction techniques, a good PT will be able to show you intra-oral stretches such as the "release the jaw" method and the "enlarge and relax the throat" technique. There are certain topical creams and plenty of other products and activities which can help. Don't give up. It can get better.
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replied February 9th, 2014
I also been suffering I had mild tmj for a year. now it's severe. I'm seeing a tmj specialist but still in pain. I had an MRI done it says my joints are intact but I have swelling in right cheek. My jaw has shifted a little now it seems like my over bite is worse. I don't know what else to do. God help all of us.
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replied February 9th, 2014
Can anyone give updates. I see no recovery insight I'm in pain on both sides n swollen. I was told I had it but it was mild. Now it's severe help
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replied March 3rd, 2014
I've been suffering from TMJ symptoms as well. As most of you stated already - Doctors don't seem to know how to deal with it. My dentist made me a night guard; it helps a little with the pain; however, the symptom does seem to be getting better. I'm seeing a neurologist for my constant headaches - he doesn't know much about TMJ either. He prescribed me antidepressant for my headaches, it seems to provide some relief; however, my overall symptoms (jaw pain; face swelling, tension headaches, neck/shoulder/back is still present. Can anyone provide updates?
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replied April 29th, 2014
I have this horrid affliction aswell, started one and a half year ago and is getting severe lately with my whole skull feeling like its in a machine with pressure on it.
What ive been doing lately is yoga exersizes for the shoulders and the neck and i 'think' it relieves a bit, ill keep doing them hoping it will help, one of the posts here was talking about blocked nerves, dont know about that but i do have a neck nerve that cramps when i look to a certain direction (armpit shaving direction) and had that for many years. Perhaps its related. But ive had many problems in my face, both throat swelling, eyelid twitches, forehead muscle twitches, earpain, tinitus, eye pain, reduced eyesight, and ofcourse the pain, feeling of fluid in, and crunching/popping in the jawjoint that is typically tmd. Ive been diagnosed tmd by a jawdoctor at the hospital but was not offered any help whatsoever in curing it, except that i could go to a fysiotherapist, wich will cost me loads of money i dont have for little to none effect. Ive been given antidepressants combined with muscle relaxants now and been taking 2 a day, also been taking ibuprofen but the latter doesnt help at all. Also was defaultly given a splint, only made it worse, and severely so.

Right now i have my bets on nerves, its swollen and theres fluid in it and ive been suicidal the past weeks but im going to try this yoga stretching thing and hopefully find a good chiropractor cause i really need that im sure.

If those things dont help im going to try to get drastic at the jawdoctor and hope he will put a drain on it and look at the tissue better with whatever technology they have and if that doesnt help i will take all the sleeping pills i can get and go to bed so i can die already.

-daniel.
-netherlands.
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replied October 13th, 2014
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Hello Folks:

I have been suffering with TMJ for a few years. The pain has been crushing, effecting, sleep, eating, and social habits. Sometimes I just don't even want to leave the house. I've tried all the meds, even some of the stronger ones (which are categorized as anti-depressants), they only provided short term relief. It's a vicious cycle, I can't sleep because of the pain, the stress of not sleeping causes more pain, the more pain I have the less I sleep, it seems never ending. The one thing I have found recently that has helped me is lifting weights. I started taking a class called Les Mills Body pump at my gym. They make you do like 800 reps with weight in one class, I immediately noticed a difference. I started sleeping better because I was exhausted, and my muscles started getting stronger, but the issue is whenever I stop going to the class, my symptoms return. I just bought some weight to keep at home, I hope that doing some weight training in the evening (when I can't make it to the class) will provide some relief. The class involves a lot of arm, shoulder, lower, and upper back work (all with weights). I know the last thing you want to do is life weights when you are in so much pain, but I swear it helps. Since I have had this issue it has been the best solution for me, providing me relief from the pain, headaches, swelling, and most importantly insomnia. I hope it helps you all too! All the best I know how traumatic a TMJ disorder is.
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