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Q: TMJ and Depression cure ?
asked by: youwon on May 5th, 2009
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Hi,
rainbow

As title point out, TMJ has really been depress me so much for the last 3 year since i have it. I dont i can tell you everything in detail about all that happen to me but i can summary it for you that. I am 23 y o male. I always kind of isolate myself from ppl because it is hard to fit in with ppl.

I actaully should never have a TMJ but i did and it was because my right TMJ was hit with an elbow 6-7 year ago but a kid back in high school while i was playing basketball. It actually dislocation my disc (right tmj) after that everytime when i open my mouth wide full and try to close it back, it swing awdward motion. Which i understand that deep down i know it is a premenant injury. I was depressed for awhile and i was so angry that the person who did it to me.

I am not a violent person and i dont see how hiting him back would any of my problem. I feel like my case was hopeless at the begining i never have a chance to prevent it because my right tmj was dislocated already the first time he hit me in the face.

that's was 11th grade. Surprisingly it only swing awdward when i open my mouth wide full so normal i dont open my mouth wide anyway so i feel normal and no pain. I have been living away from the feeling of having Tmj for over 3 year, and finally i got when i finish 2rn year of my college. at the time i had so much stress about many problem i was facing. I probably biting my teeth very hard when i was asleep. I felt very over stress so much at that time (2006) and it only about to getting worse when suddenly one night when i woke up I felt like my right tmj stuck which i cannot open my monuth wide or wide enough to eat a chicken nuggest.

I was so severely piss and angry about what happen and now i was all thinking and blaming about the kid who hit me in the face back in highschool. You know i used the days after i had a bad right tmj back in highschool i went to see a doctor in the heath center. and obiviosly it nothing they can do to cure me. The only thing they said is that "if it too bad, you have to go see a dentist" Oh my god, i was thinking about my fate how could this happening to me. Yes, i am thinking about this story and every bad story that happen to me. when i my right tmj stuck in college 2rd year. I try to stupidly hope to find a doctor who can cure me completely and start seriously research about TMJ online. The more, I get deeper, the more hopeless it happen as you already know tmj is not suggest to be surgery. because it most likely would could get worse or nothing is better from it. I was lossing it big time because I know i have anxiety and i always able to overcome any problem in the past and nothing can't be overcome. But now i feel the truth about my right tmj would be premenant damage. I start to loss myself and thinking about all the bad thing in the past that happened to me.

But the worse thing was actually about to happen.
I intentionally try to open and close my month wide and fast 1000 of time during the 2.5 week after my right tmj stuck while i try to eat.
opening and closing my jaw 1000 time all day for 2.5 week was saddest and worse thing that i did to myself. Yes, sir i eventually BROKE MY LEFT TMJ in the process as well. At the time, wasn't realize what i just did but only thing that the click and poping feeling was because of my wisdom teeth that I still have at the time. i thought that removing those wisdom-teeth my left tmj will be back to normal. but i was stupidly think it wrong, Now I have problem with left and right tmj. (double trouble!) after i broke my left tmj I still not realize a damnm thing, I should never do any of this (my parent tell me not to open and close my month all day but i never listen) I only realize it later that even a rolling piece of an airplane or car can be loose of broken if it being use too much in a short time.

I keep open and close jaw to the point that i hurt a cracking sound in the right tmj. right after that i feel the worse pain in my head i felt like someone nailling my ear. so much pain that i cry everyday. i panick attack. I had to drop summer school. go back home to my country. (I actually forgien student from asian here for high school and college)

The heath and medical cost back home was a lot cheaper than in USA. Still tmj cannot be cured (same concept everywhere).


At that time, i was panick to the point that i want to get away from this bad story tmj, bad momory and my time in america as a student. Of cause i would never dare to kill myself, there is so much things i want to do in life but tmj really hold me down.

I decided to come back to usa to finish college (finish what i start) and i just graduate last week. (2009)

You know, it's very surprisely my right tmj have a recover to the point that it no more poping clicking but still i can only open my mouth half the size i used to able to. still I have very satisfied and my right tmj condition right now as it not prefect but it doesn't bother me anymore.

However, However, However, Now my big problem is that my left TMJ is poping and click everytime when i try to open it wide. i had to roll my jaw to one side to unlock the pop and click sound to be able to open and right tmj.

I am sure who have tmj understand how annoying it can be (and the possiblely sore and pain around it)

remember i open and close my month 1000 time back in 2006 and that's is why my left tmj is mess up now. I did this upon myself. It is a sad reality. should never do that. If i didn't do that i could still keep a good left tmj and when my right tmj is recover i will be ok and no poping and clicking so i can go do or think about something else in my life to make my happy. but no i screw it up big time.


i kind of feel that my eye sight also getting worse due to tmj. I always hate about how think in my body getting worse now now it sum up to the point that i cannot stand it anymore. I feel so sorry for myself and my parents. they work and pay so much money to get me school here for the last 8 year. (2001-2009) Only to have a kid broke my right tmj in the second year (2002) and i broke my left tmj in 2006.
Now for the last three year in college 2007-2009 has been hard for me. The annoying tmj really affect my feeling.

Soon, I will be going home forever, i would never know or think about coming back to usa, as so many bad thing happen to me. Now i learnt that when you pay for the best you are not always the best. but i never thinking that i would get the worse this bad.

The regert and disappointment of mine go thru my head everyday 100 and 100 of time as that if i never come here to study i would never have gotten hit in the head(therefore, non of these tmj cause will happened). I would still be happy somewhere on this earth.

be from the disorder, depression, painful think over and over.


I been trying to cheer myself up but it hard

now 2009 the only things that bother me is the click and poping sound of my left tmj. i been trying to click and pop it on purpose a lot for the last 3 years hoping that the bone that lock my left tmj will get smaller. u know it's like you keeping scratch two piece of wood. hoping that it will get smaller to the point that it will not be lock anymore. U guys who have tmj kind of know that in the front of the disc that is a swallow curve bone that in order to open ur month wide, the dics have to work for ur jaw to roll over it directly right???

I think that curve bone is blocking my left tmj to open straight right now so may be if a doctor cut the curve for me may be the pop and click will be gone?????


or if i keep pop and click (try to slide my jaw with the upper curve bone (in front of the dics) One day it will get smaller to the point that no more pop-click???

because i been doing it over 2-3 year now i feel that it is getting easier to pop and click may be because the 2 bone that make pop and click sound got smaller???

But i really don't know may be i would screw it up even more. may be that was not the smart think to do. may be a doctor would never suggest to do surgery or cutting that swallow curve bone because it might make think even worse. There many nerve and muscle in that area that i dont know.

up to this point i really dont know how to get out of this left condition anymore (will it get better or will it get worse, what i suppose to do, or i aCTUALLY SHOULD Be doing noting at all) how my life gona be in the future. how can i be satisfied with my body.

whatever the answer is , i am very tired. so tired so sick of this disorder. sick of everything that went wrong, sick of the origin cause of all this suffer.
if i didn't get hit in the head 6-7 year ago i would never have this much suffer and i would not be typing this right now.

Anyone who read this i really thank you for reading my story.

If u have any comment or suggestion for me feel free to reply
thx
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baseballguy
replied on May 16th, 2009
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I go through the same thing as you. I am 20 years old now.
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youwon
replied on May 18th, 2009
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hi
sad to hear that,
I guess up to this point There is not point of me think about what went wrong in the past anymore.....
just have to think about how to make the future better... and relaxzzz
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baseballguy
replied on May 19th, 2009
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I injured my jaw when I chewed on a pastille. I know it sounds silly but I really hurt it and I have not been the same since.
It hurts a lot when I speak. Does speaking hurt for you?
If I speak with someone for one hour or 30 minutes my jaw will often hurt for days afterwards.
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youwon
replied on May 25th, 2009
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hi bbguy
in my cases, I can speak as long as I want and it still doesn't hurt. But I know that I
- can't eat steak anymore
- can't chewing hard food
- can't open my mouth wide
- feel sore and pain around the jaw area after I eat food or even just after I was depress and thinking about the tmj and my past.

-my left tmj is click and poping if I open my mouth
-my right tmj is no click and poping but It can only open may be 2 inch max
as I know what happen to both of it, and i pretty sure it is far from prefect now...

I actually left The us and back to my country now in asia. I actually in a dental clinic now and there have computer so..

but yeah man you should try at least go find a doctor who can really cure you more or less.

In my experience, doctors in usa, to me, I feel like they dont want to do much for me because doctor in us could get sue all the time if they treat patient wrong or it comeout badly (so why not just help me or other ppl at the minimun and get pay the same rate huh? .....)

I have tmj for 3 year now and will be forever most likely more or less. I really really want to get to the bottom of this to fix them and move on and forget about them but of cause most doctors that i have meet they really willing to treat me at the minimal way and tell me live with it, cuz surgery or doing something big with it the success rate is low.

Everytime, when someone tell me to go see new doctor they suggest is a new hope for me but usually end up doing nothing. am sick of it now.

at least dental cost in my country is a lot cheaper than in usa. u see ppl in this forum lost so much money on tmj?

one thing got worse since i have tmj is that i have a floating thing in my eyes.
I always have it even b4 i got tmj, but It get more and more in the last 10 years. may be that didn't cost by tmj but just ageing

but i have another symtom which is like when i look in the sky or bright backgroad i see line of light runing curly all over my eyes sight. i think the area allow tmj have many nerve inclubing eyes and messing up tmj may cuz thing around it to mess up. (well i think too much right? lol)

anyway to answer your question, "no i dont feel pain when i speak because my jaw doesn't have to move that much when I talk."

youwon
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baseballguy
replied on May 25th, 2009
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Yeah I know a lot of people have lost money because of TMJD and especially Americans. I live in Europe and dental costs are cheaper here than in USA.

I have just been given a mouth guard and some exercises. I feel better every day when I wake up but I get more pain and clicking throughout the day.

I have a hard time eating also but usually it doesn’t pop when I eat but when I talk.

In the beginning after injuring my jaw it opened and closed faster on one side but then I stopped opening it wide and now I can not open it as much but at least I can open it pretty straight because I can not open it as much. I don’t reach the point when it open and closes faster on one side.

Do you have any ear problems because of this?
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youwon
replied on May 27th, 2009
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hi again
Luckliy I dont have any major ear problem just yet,
But my symtom used to be like I feel my ear clicking sound every time when i talk. I read some ppl in this forum got it too. it annoy because it make poping sound right after every time i stop talking.

but it's gone for a while now. i have only a few time my ear poping when i talk this year.

anyway. i actually know that both of my ear hole getting large, because when i open my jaw it darg the ear hole to get bigger. but i really dont think i lost my hear tho. so that is good new.

anyway, i feel pain and sore something around ear, jaw muscle. It is just annoying.

after i over used my jaw and break it. I been give a mouth guard for sleeping at night too. But i know that to make my jaw back to very normal i really need some big help rather than just mouse piece, pill, hot cold pack. you know.

2 day ago i when to see doctor so he can really do more for my jaw. He seem to be v ery knowledge and best tmj doctor i will every find in my country.

he is making me "splint" i think that when it call. it similar to mouth guard but it when u wearing it for a long time it help to push the dislocate joint and dics back to normal place. the Doctor say i only 23. the chance of success is high. if i like 60, he said it will be a waste of time. but i dont really know man, i been living with this for 3 year now, finally got this doctor who i should really see at the first place.

I suggest you find a tmj doctor who can do splint for you. may be it can cure you.
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baseballguy
replied on May 27th, 2009
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I will visit the jaw specialists in my city tomorrow for the first time in six months.
I will move to another city this fall and it is a bigger city so hopefully they have better TMJD dentists there.
I think I have the exact same injury as you. I strained my jaw laterally and now when I open my mouth really much I don’t open it straight. I strained it to the right and it still opens to the right.
So if you got the elbow in the left side of your jaw you strained your jaw to the right and now when you open your mouth really much you should open it to the right… Am I correct?
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youwon
replied on May 28th, 2009
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hi hi
well got elbow right side of my jaw, after that when i open my mouth wide fully my jaw will swing to the right in the motion of closing it. sadly thing about my story is that after that i over-use my jaw by open and close it 1000 time for 2 week, just because i could cope with depression so now my
left jaw which used to be 100% prefect now is broken or dislocation
and my right jaw is most likely broken as well
I and both my jaws went a long way before i get up to this point, i living with it for 3 year now. yes my body help me heal but to be better i need doc who can make splint for me and hope to will restore my jaw more or less.

good luck with everything. and dont ever overused your jaws like me
talk to you later

youwon
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baseballguy
replied on May 28th, 2009
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OK. So you were just sitting around opening and closing it to feel if it hurt and you were like checking if it felt as before the injury.
I went to the dentist today and the only thing they did was to polish my occlusal splint. I don’t get any treatment other than that. Do you know any other methods I should try?
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youwon
replied on May 28th, 2009
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ok
i been using night guard for 3 year it like splint but it not splint. splint is the thing you have to wear all the time to move ur jaw back to normal location.

the other method i wouldn't suggest because most of other method either help a bit, or same or make it worse. like case of ppl having to have 5-6 operation they still couldn;t cure from tmjd.

so splint should our best bet, but make sure it is "splint" not just a night guard you wear at night to prevent teeth ruin
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baseballguy
replied on June 13th, 2009
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Do you have a splint now?

Well my jaw still doesn’t open straight after almost two years. Do you think I can get pain free and that the popping can stop even if the jaw doesn’t open straight in the future?
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youwon
replied on June 23rd, 2009
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hi, i have splint now but still too lazy to wear them all the time, but u know i kind of live with never open my jaw more than 4 cm. cuz more than that mine will pop and hurt and not stright you know.

but i can talk and eat normally and it doesn;t hurt that way so i live with it.

for your case, splint may help, but u got to wear to a lot most of the time to make muscle of jaw back to normal

i be right back, i gtg now
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youwon
replied on June 23rd, 2009
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to answer ur question, there is a chance that it will cure 100% by splint, but if not it will cure more or less man, but i suggest not to move ur jaw too wide too much if you are doing it.

now what i think you should do is keep maintain your jaw condition not to get worse and try to find good doctor who can make splint for you.
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baseballguy
replied on June 24th, 2009
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So how can you work or go to school if you have something like that in your mouth all the time? Are your friends, colleagues etc. understanding?

Well I live in Sweden and we have just government health care and I injured my jaw almost two years ago and they had said that within three months they would take x-rays and a month went by and then I was notified that the doctor who had ordered x-rays for me could not do it so I have to visit another dentist and I just got a letter that said: “hopefully you will get an appointment with him within 18 months.” And if that dentist say that I can have x-rays I may have to wait as long again before having them taken.

So what country are you living in?
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baseballguy
replied on June 24th, 2009
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I mean I have to wait 18 months from yesterday.
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youwon
replied on June 26th, 2009
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hi, i live in thailand
and i got everything done within a month
i found a few good doctor there.

in asia, we don't make thing complicated like a western country. U got money, and a good doctor. you should be rolling.

I just graduated from college in usa,and i dont do anything right now i can wear it all day if i wanted.

I haven't wear it like much there year after i broke my jaw it heal a bit. and last month i was so depress in usa, because i really dont have much life over there.

now i back home, it is better, i also consult mental doc who give some piss that make me stop repeated thinking about my jaw, and reduced my biting teeth when i sleep

I went a lot of doc before at home or few usa.
most of them tell me to live with it. they dont understand some tmd ppl need help.

but the doctor i have right now he already told me that he won't do any surgery. because that area (tmj) is so hard to find a success by surgery way.

so all my doctor will do as he already told me is make me a splint and set my bite align to normal which will help me cure my tmj more or less.

one thing i know for sure i believe that it will never be 100% in my case. but in your case i dont know.

i know you been having a hard time talk to ppl with ur condition if i remember correct.

18 month from yesterday sound bad
i am sure you can find a another place where you can get x-ray before 18 month but ur gov might not cover it.
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baseballguy
replied on June 26th, 2009
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Well I got a letter today that said I can call the dentist in the middle of August. That is probably because they realized 18 months is too long. I guess no one is there now because of holidays but I will call then.

Well I probably could get x-rays done in another country but here I don’t think you can step in front of others in the line.

I don’t think my bite is misaligned. I just don’t open my mouth straight but when it is shut I think my bite is fine.
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youwon
replied on June 27th, 2009
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opening my mouth beyond 4 cm it is not staight either, so dont worry, if u still can do basic stuff such as eat yawn talk in reasonable no pain and normal i think you still fine just dont move and close your jaw wide way too much like me, then you won't over use them and you should be fine and more fine when more treatment appointment happen
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baseballguy
replied on June 27th, 2009
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So do you have any ear symptoms because of your jaw?
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