Umm, because men haven't been drafted since 1972. Roe vs Wade happened in 1973. Abortion laws went into effect AFTER the draft was last used. So no, men aren't being drafted while their floozy women are off killing their unborn children. Maybe you should try researching the propaganda you're vomiting everywhere before you make yourself look uneducated.

And again, when I said I'm glad the laws are pro-choice, I was referring to the ABORTION laws. If you're going to quote me or respond to me, at least PRETEND to be able to read.

Really, Google isn't that hard to navigate. Educate yourself.

if there is no draft than why are men required to register for the draft. men dont have a choice men are required to fight and die so that women can kill their babies with abortions.

Few, when is the last time the draft was used? No seriously, tell me. Show me ONE EXAMPLE where a man was drafted to fight in a war against his will while the mother of his child obtained a legal abortion against his wishes.

Here's a hint: the answer is zero.

thats not the point.the point is that a man drafted to fight in awar against his will while the mother of his child kills his child with a legal abortion is very much possible. the government can draft men without a choice whenever it wants to. first you say abortion is valid because women only sometimes get abortions. then you say the draft isnt valid because the goverment only sometimes drafts. how does that make sense?

Lets explain it this way...men do not choose to be born men, and some women do not choose to become mothers, just like some do not choose abortion. Nothing in life is fair. Get over it

No, what I said was that mentioning the draft and abortion in the same sentence is stupid, because one has nothing to do with the other. One hasn't been used since before the other was even legal, so you bringing it up is irrelevant.

Since we're on the "what if's", what if a mother chooses to drink heavily through her pregnancy and harms her unborn child? That's legal too, and also has nothing to do with abortion. Why not chew that over in your head since you're so into "what if" situations.

Or "what if" a man gets a woman pregnant, then runs off with another woman and leaves her with the child? Yeah, what a hero.

Abortion is what it is. It's legal up to a certain gestation, and legal beyond that gestation for medical reasons. It's the mother's choice. That choice is protected by law. THAT is valid. The draft has nothing to do with this debate, and like I said, hasn't been used in decades. If you're going to bring new pieces of information into this debate, you might want to mention things that actually have to do with abortion.

they both have do with choice. so its pro-choice this and pro-choice that when you want to kill babies. and it choice has nothing to do with anything when i dont want to be forced to die so that you can kill babies?

I have not heard one prochoice individual say they support the draft.

You have brought up so many strawmen arguments horses are going hungry.

how does a pro-choice individual supporting or not supporting the draft have anything to do with the fact that the draft exists

Read up on it...the draft is no longer in use. ARGH. And the draft has nothing to do with abortion debates...requesting to lock thread due to offtopic debates.

first you say abortion is valid because it is only used sometimes. than you say draft isnt valid because it is only used sometimes. the draft is related to abortion because of choice. first you say choice has everything to do with abortion. than you say choice is off topic to abortion.

please lock this thread someone...im personally tired of the personal attacks and off subject topics as well as the bashing

nobody can choose their gender it is physically impossible. but women can choose which gender they want their offspring to be and kill the other children with abortion. why do you think women give birth to so many boys ? because men do all of the dirty difficult and dangerous work in our society and creating a vast slave labor force of men enables women to live like the gods that they think they are.

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I have been in the situation of having an abortion, and I'm 41 now. Over the years I've known many others whohave chosen abortion too. Yes, I have a wonderful adult daughter and a happy family, but have never met anyone who was glad they had chosen an abortion. You have feelings and thoughts that come back to you many years later.

You like repeating your story, but what is your point? You had the choice of an abortion -- would you rather that choice had been removed from you? There are plenty of people who have never had a moment's regret about their abortions, and there are plenty who wished circumstances had been different, but that doesn't mean they didn't make the right choice.

Excuse me?
You have no right to assume anything about me as you don't know me. Do not accuse me of bashing anyone...I never replied to you personally, never said anything mean to you, don't even know you. So do not judge me.

Nor have I bashed anyone. If anything, if you actually read any of my posts, I support either side. I am pro-choice and generally do not have a problem until someone insinuates that I am a baby killer. And as for the aftermath of abortion, I do know that some people might not be prepared for it. But others are more resiliant. And some may be glad. They may have conditions in which if they got pregnant, they might die. And what if they had other children? Wouldn't you think that they would at least be a little glad/relieved? What if there was no chance that the unborn fetus in them would survive for more than a few minutes? What if they couldn't emotionally handle going through the pregnancy and then delivering a baby already sentenced to death? There are a lot of what-if scenerios. And I am not associating all abortions with the feeling of relief/gladness. I am pretty sure that most women who have abortions feel sadness and emptyness. But I am also sure that they had valid reasons for wanting the abortion, and that they must also be feeling some kind of relief. But please do not start bashing me or being rude to me simply because I have two little ones. I have made an effort on all of my posts to be as polite and accurate (about facts) as I can be. Like I said, I do not jump the gun or bash people. I may correct people or defend myself against someone who has called me a murderer or something akin to that. But I do not go bashing those for the choices they have made. And as for me hanging around this forum, I don't care what you think. My children are raised to make decisions based upon what they choose. My choices may influence them a bit, but they are always free to object. They have nothing to do with these controversial arguments. They are not yet old enough. Please leave my kids out of this.

people are suppose to be allowed to choose the lifestyle of morality that suits them as long as that choice does not harm others. abortion does not merely harm others abortion kills others. and killing people merely to achieve a lifestyle which isn't moral at all is the general purpose of most abortions.

so choice is important when you want to kill people with abortions as a reason to be allowed to kill people with abortion? but choice isn't important if i am forced to kill people or get killed trying to kill people to defend your lifestyle choice of killing people with abortions? and that is why only men are required to register for the draft?