More attempted denigration of women.

Women who respect and love themselves & who will not submit to the selfish agenda of the prolife advocate is the worst antagonist for zealous prolife advocates such as Few. They will attempt to degrade women such as these, insult their intelligence, and spread malicious lies about their beliefs in the attempt to tear down their self-esteem.

so basically you are telling us that killing people should be legal because the killers might get hurt while killing people if killing is legal?

No one is killing people. This is a discussion about abortion. No people are killed, except by psychotic anti-abortion clinc bombers, or women who die during illegal abortions or because they were unable to obtain an abortion.

abortion is killing unborn babies. and babies are people. legalized abortion has caused the deaths of millions of people. how many deaths has illegal abortions caused?

Pregnancy causes bodily harm to the woman and can kill her. Therefore, she has the right to defend herself from it just as you would have the right to defend yourself from an intruder in your home or an attacker on the street.

If women-who are considered persons under the law-have no right to refuse the use of their bodies to an insentient fetus which ISN'T a person under the law, what's to stop misogynists from taking it a step further and making it illegal for women to refuse men the use of their bodies as well?

The cold hard truth of the matter is that fetuses actually have the same right to use a woman's body as any BORN person does...which is ZERO. They DO have equal rights. Some just want to elevate their rights to be above born people and the women that actually risk their health and lives carrying them.

Actually, "unborn babies" , i.e. zygotes, embryos and fetuses, are not people. They just ARE NOT. No matter what you think, they are not PEOPLE.

You need to do some research on abortion statistics. You are obviously not up to date of any of it.

if unborn babies are not people it should be fairly simple tell what they are ie. that is not a person that is a rabbit or those are not people those are trees. since you can't tell us what unborn babies are . than unborn babies must be people.

No, they are human zygotes, embryos and fetuses. I can tell you exactly what they are. They are potential persons, in that if they are born and survive birth, they will be human beings. Why is this such a complicated concept for you. The same way that a fertilised chicken egg is an egg, not a chicken.

what the heck does potential person mean? some idiotic express you conjured up to try and rationalize the discrimination dehumanization and slaughter of unborn babies? the truth is very simple a human being is created and has a continuous lifespan untill death. embryo fetus adult adolescent are merely terms used to describe a person a various levels of development and those terms in no way make a person something other than the person that those terms might be used to descibe.

It isn't a person until it's born, so until then it is only potentially a person. Gosh -- this isn't a complicated concept, so I'm typing really slowly now...

You don't count as a person until you are born. Here's another one: "birthday" - that means you start counting your life from the day you are born, right? There are around 6.7 billion people on the planet. How many of those haven't been born yet? Oh, right...none of them. They only count BORN people. There are around 133 million births in the world every year, so we can reckon somewhere over 100 million women pregnant at any one time -- they aren't counted twice in the statistics, are they? No -- people are the ones that are born.

and blacks are only 3/5 human and the moon is made of green cheese. and there is no such thing as penatal care and obstetritions(which prove you are counted as a person before birth). believe it or not people do not magically appear out of thin air on their birthday. if what you said is true this debate wouldn't exist because there would be nothing to abort. you actually expect intelligent people to believe that until you say something exists it doesn't. regarless of wether something actually exists or not?

I'm sorry, I'm not getting this. Although you may be a figment of my, or perhaps your own, imagination, at no time did I make any suggestion that human being suddenly emerged fully formed from thin air. The very simply concept is that before birth, no matter how special that particular snowflake, it is not counted as a person. See, what happens is that a sperm meets and ovum (whether inside the female or in a laboratory dish), and maybe they decide to get together. Then, if conditions are right, the fertilised egg implants in the lining of the uterus, and a zygote begins to form, becoming an embryo, and then a fetus. Some zygotes, embryos and fetuses die spontaneously due to poor host conditions, abnormality incompatible with life, diseases of the host, etc. Others may be deliberately aborted. A minority then go on to be born. Some of these require medical intervention. Some die days or hours before birth. Others are delivered much earlier than scheduled. Some are born, but die immediately or shortly after birth. nIn any case, there is a long developmental process involved prior to emerging from the uterus. It only counts as a person in any real sense if it emerges alive and has been born. I'm not even sure -- does a stillborn baby at full term actually get counted in the registry of births?

not counted by you perhaps. but counted by the billions of mothers on this planet that have the decency and morality to give birth to their children yes. not to mention the billions of fathers on this planet that are proud of their children even while in the mothers womb.

5-6 week pregnancy abortion:



Etopic pregnancy, 5 weeks post conception:

what is the meaning of this vile display.

Can't handle the truth? I am pro choice, I am also one of the billions of women who chose to give birth to their children. I am pro choice because I believe that everyone has the right to choose what is best for themselves.

I choose for me. I make my own choice about what is right for me.

So glad Few isn't choosing for me (us)!

Education. The first photo is an actual abortion at 5-6 weeks. I think it's important that you, and others reading your semantic ideas know exactly what you are talking about.

The second photos was an etopic pregnancy that would have killed the mother had it continued. I am sure you cannot find the termination of an etopic pregnancy vile unless you would prefer to see the mother die.

even if what you say is true. how does an extremely rare occurance justify the wanton slaughter of millions of innocent healthy children which is the typical abortion. are you suggesting that because a jew was found guilty of homicide that the nazi holocaust is justified?