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This is my first post and I thought I'd give back to the community with some helpful advice I've learned over the past year.

I've been dating a person with BPD for over 6 months now and I would never even know what BPD or bi-polar was without dating this person, NOR would I be the much stronger, more confident person that I am today.

I see the same common story all over the internet: person with bipolar/bpd is treating you wonderfully one day, then you wake up and BAM they're a completely different person.

I've been through it as well.

Now I know BPD and bipolar are different. BPD is like bipolar on steroids. Where a bipolar person might leave every 4 weeks or so, a BPD person could leave every other day. Anywho, the advice I have is for both and I hope it works for you. Just note that if you're dating a BPD like I am, you had better be a strong dude. And if you're not, get strong quick as I had to (which is a good thing).

There's a reason why you don't hear about people writing about their successful bipolar/bpd relationships. Obviously, there ARE successful relationships out there. The guys/girls that "get it" don't even think about coming to a forum for help.

Luckily, I have a friend that has dated multiple bipolar/bpd women and he's enlightened me. And now my relationship is better than ever. So this is what I want you all to do:

The next time you're with your partner and they grow distant/cold/give you that speech about how you guys can't be together anymore, just do a simple "Okay that's cool" and leave. LEAVE. Just go.

Don't sit around and try to figure out what the heck happened - just get up and leave.

If they text you about how they want a break or whatever, just reply with "k"
THAT'S IT! short and sweet, nothing more.

Now - expect your partner to GET MAD. Seriously. When I first started doing this, my gf got MAD. She started texting me about how much she hates me and how I'm a huge douchebag. Don't panic and DO NOT react. When I get those texts, I reply with something simple like "nice." or "very mature." something along those lines.

DO NOT get emotional and start saying things like "I think we're great together..." or anything like that. These people have an ILLNESS and this is simply what happens. The BEST way to treat it is to GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT. We are NOT their Hero. They simply need a break and the best thing to do is DISAPPEAR.

Do not text, do not call, do not message, do not email, etc. do not CONTACT them at all until they contact you. And when they do, make them WORK FOR YOU. Do not bow down when they try to get you back. For example, I ALWAYS make my gf drive to MY HOUSE when she comes around. It's usually pretty rare for her to leave these days because she knows I can leave her... if you're getting all emotional when she leaves and needy, you're only making the situation worse...

Ok, I want you all to TRY THIS next time and report your results here. It can take a few days, sometimes a week for them to come back to you at first. But the more you show that you're willing to leave and willing to MOVE ON, the LESS they leave. People with bibolar/BPD cannot have normal relationships. They are ill. The normal relationship is actually painful for them as they were raised in broken homes (usually).

Therefore, if you're willing to have a relationship with someone that doesn't know what love really is nor what a real relationship should be like, you need to know that you're going to have to be able to walk away. You already know that bipolar/BPD people are pretty much always on the extreme when it comes to their feelings - they either extremely love you (which is why we stick around) or they extremely want to break up. So when they're on the negative extreme as I call it, just leave. Deep down, they simply NEED TO KNOW that you WILL leave if they give you crap.

By letting them know that you're willing to leave, it actually MAKES YOU LOOK BETTER because it shows you're a strong dude that's not dependent on them, as well as making you look like a desirable person.

I know it doesn't really make much sense right? Well guess what - you're dating a person that's wired differently than you and has a completely different view on relationships. If you can't handle it/accept it, date someone else :)

There will always be tough times and in order to PROVE your worth, you MUST walk away. It validates their beliefs by letting her know that YOU ARE STRONG and WILLING TO LEAVE. This shows STRENGTH which is what THEY NEED. Hopefully it's starting to click for you.

'Normal' people don't need this validation because they were raised in a healthy environment. They don't need to play games. People with BPD, however, were usually abused and raised in broken homes. They deep down NEED the STRONGEST man out there to be with them (usually due to the fact that they had a poor relationship with their father therefore they have trust issues with men). And by leaving, you are proving that YOU'RE STRONG. And in the end, that's what wins.

It IS confusing because you about their fear of abandonment and such right? So you might say to yourself, "If I leave, I'm abandoning her!" It looks like that on the outside. But think INTERNALLY. She needs to KNOW that you are STRONG. Strong, confident men DON'T stand around and take abuse. It shows you're weak. By leaving, it shows you VALUE yourself and aren't going to take her crap. You simply say something like "Look, I love you but I'm not going to be around you until you cool down. Peace." And LEAVE!

So don't get bitter towards your bi-polar/BPD girlfriend when she grows distant. This is simply how they're wired and brought up. You CANNOT change people. You ARE NOT a hero. Your role as a man is to be their EMOTIONAL ROCK and you do this by PROVING YOUR STRENGTH and one of the BEST ways to prove this is by being firm and the willingness to leave when times get tough.

Give it a go and I hope this helps you all out!
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replied April 5th, 2012
well, as insane it could sound... it worth a try. thanks dude Smile
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replied April 11th, 2012
This is certainly the way to handle an episode. Been there done that. You are right. The only problem is sometimes BP people forget to take their meds or think its fine to go off them. Really bad things happen then.

I can tell you that if she really has BP I, that you are dealing with now is _nothing_ compared to what you are in for some years down the road. Things don't get "better". It's a permanent disease.

The advice I have for you is don't think you can manage someone with BP by walking away whenever they go manic. If it were that easy, this board wouldn't be littered with broken dreams.

The only way to really know is to experience it over a period of years. You are just getting started.

Wait til she has an anger outburst and you do that, then she gets with some random guy at a bar to make herself feel better while you are off feeling superior. It's not her, she's faithful, however the disease takes control and makes her do stuff she wouldn't normally do. That, my friend, is where the _real_ problems start.

The anger outbursts are the tip of the iceberg that is BP I. I don't want to scare you, but BP I is downright scary once you have gone down the rabbit hole to the bottom.

Walking away during an outburst, is the right thing to do, for _you_. For your relationship's sake, and your own health (STD's anyone? how about opiates?) you'd better stay with her when she's like that. Ignoring the problem won't make it go away, it makes it worse.

Just saying...
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replied October 6th, 2012
Temporary fix to a permanent problem
Superpatient I agree with you.

This tactic can only work for so long. Let's remember these people are ill. It gets worse! I went to a bipolar support group for partners and met a lot of people who have used all sorts of tactics. As time goes, it gets worse. But the question is why would anyone want to put up with this type of behavior in the first place? Why must it be like a game?

As Superpatient said, what about STD's? When manic bipolars are very very prone to cheating. It is part of their illness. I tried this tactic on my ex once and he went out and slept with someone else the same night, unprotected! I slept with him unaware that he had unprotected sex with two different women when I was giving him his "space". I had to get tested for HIV and a bunch of other STDs. I was negeative but I still have to go back to retest for HIV to make sure the first test was accurate. These are dilemmas I didn't have to deal with before I got into a relationship with a bipolar.

It's not worth it people.
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replied April 12th, 2012
Hey, I'm new her and absolutely struggling with my husband and his recently diagnosed (3 monhts ago) BPD rapid-cycling with mixed state.

In all the years we have been together, he has done disappearing acts and cut communication of any kind. He used to leave flowers or some such token on the doorstep, but now doesn't even do that. In the last 2 years since he became a prison officer, he has turned into my worst nightmare.

I was relieved when he finally got diagnosed cos he had been treated for depression for nearly 10 years, but this made him worse. His disappearances are more frequent and for longer - usually I have to go find him or catch him somehwere or I am not sure he would ever come back or be in touch and we have a six-year old daughter who adores him.

Recently, I brought him back crying and he let me in on his health visits and I helped get his meds changed. His lithium was not even at the proper level as per bloods and he now on 800mg with 150mg venlafaxine and 15mg buspirone? to help with sexual problems and no interest.

For around 5 days he became someone I used to know - kind thoughtful and considerate and wanting to involve me in all his life and I felt happy and hopeful. Just 2 days ago, he didn't return from work for 5 hours and cut contact and then when I cried when he got home, his face got all taught and he shut down and folded his arms and turned away from me. He just said "why should I be sorry for the way I feel?" Then calm as day, he disappeared and we haven't heard from him since.

All his clothes/possessions are at home (apart from uniform kept at work). He can go to work, but shuts me and the little one out completely. He on facebook making random comments to work colleagues and it as if he is leading a double life and his work life is nothing to do with me.

Please help. If I don't chase or contact him, do you think this would work? He has already been gone for 3 x 2 weeks plus disappearances this year so far and it hurts both me and his daughter. The disappearances are too long and painful.

Please help. x
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replied April 12th, 2012
Hey, I'm new her and absolutely struggling with my husband and his recently diagnosed (3 monhts ago) BPD rapid-cycling with mixed state.

In all the years we have been together, he has done disappearing acts and cut communication of any kind. He used to leave flowers or some such token on the doorstep, but now doesn't even do that. In the last 2 years since he became a prison officer, he has turned into my worst nightmare.

I was relieved when he finally got diagnosed cos he had been treated for depression for nearly 10 years, but this made him worse. His disappearances are more frequent and for longer - usually I have to go find him or catch him somehwere or I am not sure he would ever come back or be in touch and we have a six-year old daughter who adores him.

Recently, I brought him back crying and he let me in on his health visits and I helped get his meds changed. His lithium was not even at the proper level as per bloods and he now on 800mg with 150mg venlafaxine and 15mg buspirone? to help with sexual problems and no interest.

For around 5 days he became someone I used to know - kind thoughtful and considerate and wanting to involve me in all his life and I felt happy and hopeful. Just 2 days ago, he didn't return from work for 5 hours and cut contact and then when I cried when he got home, his face got all taught and he shut down and folded his arms and turned away from me. He just said "why should I be sorry for the way I feel?" Then calm as day, he disappeared and we haven't heard from him since.

All his clothes/possessions are at home (apart from uniform kept at work). He can go to work, but shuts me and the little one out completely. He on facebook making random comments to work colleagues and it as if he is leading a double life and his work life is nothing to do with me.

Please help. If I don't chase or contact him, do you think this would work? He has already been gone for 3 x 2 weeks plus disappearances this year so far and it hurts both me and his daughter. The disappearances are too long and painful.

Please help. x
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replied May 5th, 2012
Thank u for the advice. This is exactly what I think I needed to hear today. My fiance got upset with over something that I said to him and I haven't heard from him in over a week. I have cried every day since. I am going to take your advice to not contact him to see if it works because I know he really loves me. I really hope he comes back to the guy that I fell in love with. Best wishes to u all!
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replied October 6th, 2012
I wish I had read this message several months ago. My boyfriend left me three months before our wedding. I really did not know whether to stay or go and I was really heart, confused etc. Well a person gave me advice to stay in our home and I stayed. I finally left know, six months later. Do you think it was too late? It seemed that until August he was like 50-50, didnt know what to do. Last month I asked him if he still loves me and he answered yes without any doubt. Still I feel that about a month ago he made the final decission that our thing does not work. I could see it from little things. Now I am blaming myself that I did understand to go when it was time for it. I can see in fb that he is interested in another woman. Do you think I left too late?
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replied October 6th, 2012
And lets not forget BPD is not the same as Bipolar disorder. BPD is Borderline Personality Disorder. It's not the same thing. People with BPD tend to have split personalities while Bipolars are the same people, just either manic, depressed or both.
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replied January 21st, 2013
This is the confusing part..
I am married and I have BPD. I have seen one of the best doctors, who was able to help stabilize my moods. I take quite a bit more pills then i would like to, but that's just par for the course. I love Him with all of my heart. I feel as though each day is a new beginning so I'm happier than ever. most importsnly i I finally feel normal with all of the medication. Of course I had to cut any coffee coke and alcohol in order to remain stable. Small price to pay for being able to see things a lot more clearly. So recently my husband and I or shall I say just my husband has been fighting. I think he is stressed out at work or maybe he is just conditioned to defend himself and behave a certain way with me like before. So now I stay quiet now and he will continue to hurt my feelings I try to understand, how I could be so calm now and he's flying off the handle? But he still blaming my disease and me for everything. I have gotten so much better maybe by not leaps and bounds but much further than I've ever been before. I Actually see hope. How can I talk to him without him cutting me off and getting so angry because as of now I'm just quiet. however, because I am conditioned to internalize everything I take everything good or bad to heart. I'm pretty sure that I don't make up anything, and I hear loud and clear when he says hurtful things to me. How do I approach this surprising twist?
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