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Q: suboxone for opiate addiction
asked by: help4j on March 11th, 2008
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Hi there everyone,
I have been here a couple of times. My son has had an opiate addiction for 2 years now.
He started suboxone 12 days ago. He is on 2mgs in the morning and 2mgs at night.
He has been doing well, but today (for some reason) he said he just did not need to take it.

I swear he used and told him so. He denied it of course. I thought you could not get 'high' while on subox.

His last KNOWN FOR SURE dose was yesterday late in the morning. He said he took it last night, around 10:00pm but I did not see him take it.

Any thoughts? Are my accustions justified? or is it POSSIBLE that he could skip an entire day. He is acting fine. Little irritable when I asked if he slipped up. but mostly acting fine. Watching tv laughing and talking normal mellow, not hyper like he was on oxy's
A bit confused?
Thanks for any advice or comments
h4j
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CarolDiane
replied on March 14th, 2008
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Only thing that I can recommend is that you make him take it right in front of you. First check both his hands. Then make him open his mouth and then look under his tounge. Let him know you are concerned enought to do this and that it is not mistrust, just that you love him and want him well and clean. I have found that threatening does have a tendency to backfire and they will retreat.

~Carrie~
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help4j
replied on March 14th, 2008
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Thanks carrie for your advice...'
He has been taking the last couple days right in front of me... I guess this is just part of watching your son try to kick his addiction. My suspiscions get the best of me sometimes.
I am waiting for a relapse and maybe I am not being fair sometimes, but it is always in my mind.
It is ultimatley up to him to keep on the right track. It is hard, but who said it would be easy ..
Thanks again for your reply
h4j
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marvin5
replied on March 19th, 2008
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if he is a minor and living with you, make sure he follows it UNDER your supervision and that you see that he takes it. you might even want to do a search of his room when he is not home to see if you find anything there.

also, get him into a 12 step program. Alteen. the teen version of AA program.
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bbfeet9
replied on March 19th, 2008
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My 26 year old daughter just started a soboxone treatment plan. She wanted methodone but it shows up as an opiate in the urine. She went from pot to coke to oxys and her last trip was IV heroin use. She went into rehab but left after 7 days, she was supposed to stay 40 days. She is trying to come clean to get her son back, this is her bottom. She has several court dates and appts. with mds. She is getting into an out patient treatement center and plans to work full time. I think the Judge will give her drug court, i don't know, but she says she will be ok with that. It has been a nightmare here, just as i am sure for you and your fam too. I hope your son does not fall back into his old ways, two years is a long time to be clean and then fall. As far as your accusations, you as a mom, are justified. We as moms do so much to help our kids and when we think they are back sliding our mom-dar goes into action. Let him know what you are thinking, so what if he gets upset, he'll get over it. His health and safety is the biggest concern. You have had two years of good with him, i am just getting started after 13 years of heartach. If he lives with you, even better, you have more right to get on him. Good luck with your son. I hope he continues his progress.
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help4j
replied on March 24th, 2008
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Thanks everyone!
I am sorry I have not posted in a bit..

my son in 39 hours off the subox. Quick taper over 23 days.
withdrawl is starting.
It is 2am here and he is awake, (so am I for that matter)
He says he feels as though he is starting to feel sleepy.
I am going to bed. I will know more tomorrow.

Thanks everyone for your reply and advice.

I dont know if I posted this earlier, but anyway.... i drug tested him and he is clean. everything.
I am proud of him. (although I am not done with this)
ordering 25 drug test strips tomorrow and he knows it too.
I am on his a** and he knows that as well
I know I can not make him do this, but I sure as heck can give him a concequence right?

I am having faith that he wants to be done with his addiction. He has a life long battle which drives me insane to think about at this time.

One day at a time.. I defineltly get that now. Oh how true those words are

My well wishes to all of you and thanks so much for your replys.
I will be popping in to update.
j's mom
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CarolDiane
replied on March 24th, 2008
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Please do and let us know how he is doing. Sound like with will power he just might make it through this.

Proud of him!

Carrie
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NURSCAT
replied on April 21st, 2008
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Suboxone is not hard to taper off from. That is the reason it is used. It is important to understand how it works, by taking residence on the opiate receptor sites, other opiates cannot get seated, therefore they won't work. So, it is true that we do not get high on Suboxone. I was up to 24 mg daily and did not feel high. however, I did feel normal which means I was happy, with normal energy levels, and without withdrawal signs and symptoms. I also detect the need for those who have family members who are addicts of anykind to seek their own therapy because they too become mentally ill. That is why we see a great need to fix and make the one who is the addict well. Hope this helps some.
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NURSCAT
replied on April 21st, 2008
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Suboxone is not hard to taper off from. That is the reason it is used. It is important to understand how it works, by taking residence on the opiate receptor sites, other opiates cannot get seated, therefore they won't work. So, it is true that we do not get high on Suboxone. I was up to 24 mg daily and did not feel high. however, I did feel normal which means I was happy, with normal energy levels, and without withdrawal signs and symptoms. I also detect the need for those who have family members who are addicts of anykind to seek their own therapy because they too become mentally ill. That is why we see a great need to fix and make the one who is the addict well. Hope this helps some.
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TheCleaner
replied on August 31st, 2008
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Hello there I am a 43 year old male who is on sub at the time I wont get into how I got on it but Im here too tell you he may not be usen sub is a long term drug he may not need the ammount he is on I only take 2mg a day and I do fine I am now detoxing from that also and I came off from 150mg of methadone a year or so ago and thats where Im at now dont force him to take it if its subotex he can still get high if its suboxone he can not get high from other opiates the receptors are blocked,dont make him take it in front of you because not trusting him is not good give him a chance and then when you find out he really is still usen then you step in but remember this is his recovery not yours he has to want it more than anything in the world,myself I dont beleive you need too worry unless he is going 3 or more days without taking it.If he is like me the sub gives him a headache at too high of a dose and beleive it or not 4mg a day is a high dose although theres folks taken 24mg or more a day but myself im in it to get out of it so Ive never taken over 4mg a day and Ive been on 2mg for about 3 months now..Good luck with your son show him love affection and also show him drug use will not be tolerated in your house. flags
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