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Q: Straight man with a bi girlfriend...
asked by: c0ldblue on December 22nd, 2008
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I've been browsing through the forum topics for awhile now...I see this issue come up a lot.

I'm a 23 year old straight man with a bisexual girlfriend. We have been dating for 8 months now, are absolutely in love, and are very committed to one another. There was a caveat when we began dating; she agreed to give up women for me. I never forced her into this decision, I was just very honest about what I believed I could and could not handle. She asked me about the possibility of threesomes, I told her I had no interest. Relationships are difficult enough without that extra variable.

However, one thing that does bother the HELL out of me is that she openly displays her attraction to women as if in silent mockery of what we agreed on. What makes it worse is that there are many times where it's something silly...like a movie star. Who could honestly be jealous of a little crush on a movie star? But for some reason, the way she displays her emotions really gets to me. I can almost SEE the fantasies roaming through her head. Her eyes glaze over and she bites her lower lip. Frequently.

I've discussed this with her, but she sees no reason to hide it. It's very emasculating to me.

Now, one thing I already understand is that I am pretty insecure right now. I never have been in the past (truthfully) but since I've been involved with my girlfriend I have developed those tendencies. Not really through any fault of my own, there have been a few incidents in the past that really hammered my confidence, not the least of which is the general fact that she's bisexual, the largest of which is probably that she slept with my best friend when we weren't technically "dating" but still involved past what I thought was the point of no return. Anyways.

I don't even know how to ask for help on this one. I'm not sure what it is I need. Maybe some perspective on how others have come to terms with these issues? Any thoughts? Once again, we truly are committed to one another. But these issues seem to find their way into our interactions and it's making her feel like I don't understand her, when it's really just myself who I'm confused about.
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homerx
replied on December 30th, 2008
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You R still pretty young.Once you get older I think you wont have a problem with it.I think maybe that you don't want to share her and you shouldn't if you don't want to.If you cant accept her as she is then its only fare to let her go.Maybe you 2 could try some couples counseling? Be very honset with her and make sure she is 100% honest with you.If you cant deal with it then move on before time passes and it gets harder to resolve. Good luck.
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SaHall
replied on December 30th, 2008
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As a bisexual girl I understand what it is that you're talking about. I do the same, and if my fiancee` comments on an actress or something llike that, I freak out. I think you have the same problem as me, yes it has something to do with insecurities but not entirely. When my fancee` comments on another, it makes me feel a little less of a woman. For that reason, I try not to mention anything about guys or girls, because I am very open about being bisexual, but I believe that if you're with one person, it doesnt matter if the other is a guy or a girl, its steal cheating. I don't know if this has helped you at all, but don't make a huge deal about it, She's with you, not some hot movie star. Remember that. She wants to be with you.
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Rerun
replied on December 30th, 2008
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You are insecure because....

YOU DON'T TRUST HER.

.... and thats the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Trust me. I know what I'm talking about. I've been there. Believe me it will only get worse. Dump her. Its not worth the anxiety, aggravation, or ulcers.
Go out and find someone who only thinks about you, and only wants to be with you, and nobody else. Thats someone you will be able to trust.
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c0ldblue
replied on December 30th, 2008
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Thank you all for your feedback, SaHall in particular. I agree with what all of you have said in some way or another. The trust issue...I'm not willing to give up on a relationship with a wonderful person because I have trust issues. If I can make sure it doesn't hurt her until I can resolve them, then we both end up better. Thanks again.
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JavaMissus
replied on December 30th, 2008
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I think all of the answers here by the people are wonderful...A woman is a confusing creature...I wonder how many of us can look at Porn and not get turned on by looking at the sexual parts of another woman?....Maybe because we have never seen ourselves before...Maybe we are shocked by how beautiful we really are....Then I will add that she is young...I believe it takes years for a woman to truly grow into her sexual self....

Sometimes I wonder if both sexes have a bit of each sex in them....I know there were times when I saw a nude woman and wondered....Could have been hot....I don't wonder so much anymore...But, I would not turn away from looking...Maybe it is the animal in all of us...

She should not tease you with other women...This you should stop....I would suggest when you are making love to her and pounding her brains out sexually with your penis, to ask her...."If you keep doing that flirting in front of me with women, you will not get this"....Use your advantage....Believe me you do have it...We have that hunger within for the male appendage and it is bad.....

Work with her and give her time....She may be confused but if she loves you she will crawl back to her master.....I sure would...

Much luck,
Caroline
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JYoungBear
replied on January 3rd, 2009
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Rerun wrote:
You are insecure because....

YOU DON'T TRUST HER.

.... and thats the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Trust me. I know what I'm talking about. I've been there. Believe me it will only get worse. Dump her. Its not worth the anxiety, aggravation, or ulcers.
Go out and find someone who only thinks about you, and only wants to be with you, and nobody else. Thats someone you will be able to trust.


I have to disagree with this post.

If there are trust issues, those can be worked on. An honest, 1:1 chat wouldn't hurt things, to ensure that both you and your bi g/f are on the same page.

This is coming from someone who has massive trust issues with a lot of people. I had those the first few months I was with my man, but as we talked more, I became more at ease - I know I can trust him with everything, as he can with me. Don't just ditch a relationship all because of trust issues.

If she is truly making a mockery of things you two agreed upon, then that issue needs to get resolved. If she's not willing to talk to you honestly, and help to come to some sort of compromise, then maybe letting her go would be more ideal. It just helps to talk instead of just up and letting go of a relationship.

Also, and one thing I notice about people, especially in relationships, is that we all still look - whether it is in a mall, a movie theater, watching TV, at a restaurant - and looking at eye candy (which I lovingly call it) is really not a bad thing - both Ray and I do it constantly, but when it is all said and done, we both only, really, have eyes for each other, and we trust each other. We're not pigs, we don't go out of our way to flirt with every guy that we see that we think looks cute, handsome, etc. It's just a part of life.
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c0ldblue
replied on January 4th, 2009
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Thanks to Caroline and YoungBear both for your edifying responses. Seriously. Caroline, you made me laugh a little bit...but it's a good point. Unfortunately I may hold a little less sway in that regard because I personally believe my wonderful girlfriend has some sort of kryptonite in her female parts. *sigh*

YoungBear, I completely agree with you and it helps to know someone else shares my point of view. I've put more effort into this relationship than ever before and I am not willing to scrap it because of some issues that can be resolved eventually.
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spanishfly
replied on January 6th, 2009
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get serious.
First of all, question: What straight man is not interested in having two women please him at the same time? *waited 5 days and still the room was silent* you don't count. If she gave up girls for you then be happy. She should be able to look at whatever the heck she wants without you trying to make her feel bad about who she is or what she likes. Dude, it's a frickin' movie star! Is she grabbin asses and collecting phone numbers while you're together? No she's not. Or at least you didn't say she is. As for your insecurities, you're gonna have to get over them, grow some nuts, something. Who cares if she screwed your bestfriend before you two started dating? IT WAS BEFORE YOU WERE DATING!!! You should think about that. If you didn't offer her any commitment then she was free to do whatever it was that she wanted with her body. And another thing, why are you putting your business on a forum for people to dissect like it's any of anyone else's business. How do you think she would feel if she knew that still - all these months or years later - you have a problem with who she is and instead of talking to her about it you went and asked some cyber people. You should feel emasculated because that was a b*tch move. So maybe you should stop running around like a frickin fairy telling everyone about every single problem that you have every time you have one and learn to either accept her for what she is and likes and does or leave her before she just takes away all of your problems and leaves you. And as for Rerun...you're alone, aren't you? You are alone and sit at home and watch porn in your mother's basement. Get a life. You just tell someone to leave the person they love because a small problem. C0ldblue, I'm sure she loves you if she went so far as to eliminate her bisexuality. Cut her some slack. Seriously.
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JYoungBear
replied on January 7th, 2009
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c0ldblue wrote:
Thanks to Caroline and YoungBear both for your edifying responses. Seriously. Caroline, you made me laugh a little bit...but it's a good point. Unfortunately I may hold a little less sway in that regard because I personally believe my wonderful girlfriend has some sort of kryptonite in her female parts. *sigh*

YoungBear, I completely agree with you and it helps to know someone else shares my point of view. I've put more effort into this relationship than ever before and I am not willing to scrap it because of some issues that can be resolved eventually.


It just really helps with any relationship that the couple want to really go far, to be with as little drama as possible, and just to be up front / honest with one another. If you can't be truthful to the person that you love, then you can't be true to yourself.

If you feel that the effort is rewarding, then definitely keep at it! I certainly hope that your g/f sees things the same way.
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c0ldblue
replied on January 8th, 2009
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Re: get serious.
spanishfly wrote:
First of all, question: What straight man is not interested in having two women please him at the same time? *waited 5 days and still the room was silent* you don't count. If she gave up girls for you then be happy. She should be able to look at whatever the heck she wants without you trying to make her feel bad about who she is or what she likes. Dude, it's a frickin' movie star! Is she grabbin asses and collecting phone numbers while you're together? No she's not. Or at least you didn't say she is. As for your insecurities, you're gonna have to get over them, grow some nuts, something. Who cares if she screwed your bestfriend before you two started dating? IT WAS BEFORE YOU WERE DATING!!! You should think about that. If you didn't offer her any commitment then she was free to do whatever it was that she wanted with her body. And another thing, why are you putting your business on a forum for people to dissect like it's any of anyone else's business. How do you think she would feel if she knew that still - all these months or years later - you have a problem with who she is and instead of talking to her about it you went and asked some cyber people. You should feel emasculated because that was a b*tch move. So maybe you should stop running around like a frickin fairy telling everyone about every single problem that you have every time you have one and learn to either accept her for what she is and likes and does or leave her before she just takes away all of your problems and leaves you. And as for Rerun...you're alone, aren't you? You are alone and sit at home and watch porn in your mother's basement. Get a life. You just tell someone to leave the person they love because a small problem. C0ldblue, I'm sure she loves you if she went so far as to eliminate her bisexuality. Cut her some slack. Seriously.


Boy, I'm not sure exactly what to think about this reply.

I appreciate the points you made, many of them are valid. You seem to understand the situation pretty well...my girlfriend made MANY of the same points when she and I discussed this situation. Coincidentally, it was the day after you made your post that we got in a small argument about it.

Actually your advice is somewhat redundant at this point. I have already come to my own conclusions regarding the issue...if you look a little closer you may notice that I already conceded the point that the problem was most likely my own rather than hers.

I do regret the context of your response slightly. The tone seems somewhat personal and angry. Sorry if I've offended you, but if you don't see the use of a bunch of "cyber people," then why are you here in the first place? Oh well.

It's funny you labeled your topic "get serious." My girlfriend says that all the time.
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hassanb
replied on July 30th, 2009
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Needing advice on dating bisexual girl A.S.A.P
i need some friendly advaice. i've been dating this girl for 11 months now & im finding my self having a really hard time accepting her bisexuality. we both are very much in love & want to spend the rest of are lives together so far. the thing that bothers me is she'll say things like women sexually satisfy her more then men do. she'll also tell me stories about her sexual experiences with men & women & how a women can make her orgasms in positions that a man can not. im not going to lie it sickens me to think that a women might be able to satisfy her in ways i can not. she is also curious about alot of other strange things not to mention the women who she has done these things wit is one of her closets friends whom she is very close to till this day. i hate knowing this happend when i see her even if it was before me. to be honest i do love her but not sure if this is the type of women i can spend the rest of my life with. am i insecure i can honestly say i am a little she has said that she would not cheat on me with a man or women. but knowing what i know im not sure if that's good enough for me i want someone who only has eyes for me. it's bad enough that as a man i know that my women has attractions towards other men now i feel as if i have to worry about the hole world men & women. i dont know what to do i feel emasculated is there anyway of putting these insecuritys behind me & having a happy relationship?
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c0ldblue
replied on July 30th, 2009
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Hassanb,

Yes, by giving up something very important to you. I am the original author of this post. I am still with the woman I originally wrote this about, and I love her very much.

The choice you have to make is whether or not you can live with shutting out the little part of you that wants to die when you see the things you're talking about. People who have grown up understanding this kind of lifestyle have a marked advantage over those of us who have been blindsided by it.

I love my girlfriend more than anything except my children. So I shut that little part out.

Now, what IS wrong is that (assuming you have shared your discomfort at the things she says) your girlfriend shares those kind of things with you. I have been there before and I know just the feeling: frustration, helplessness, even rage. She shouldn't be telling you those kinds of things. But at some point you have to decide if you're going to trust her.

This might not help but I hope it does...as a man you must know how beautiful and sexual women can be. You might as well give up competing with that right now. But just because your girlfriend is aroused or attracted to the idea of being with a woman, well, it's not as big a deal to her as it is to you. You know why? Because she's WITH YOU. She's not with another dude, and she hasn't left you for a woman. You have something that only you can give her, and she recognizes that.

Be wary of co-dependency. Even for a reasonably secure man, being involved in a bisexual relationship is just opening the door to emasculation. The key is to become more confident in yourself. Unless she is just using you, recognize that she is with you because she loves you. I know one thing that has crossed your mind already is "how f***ing greedy do you have to be to want a man AND a woman?" Well, the likelihood is that you will not be able to change her mind with logic like that (that's how we men solve problems, right?).

It takes a strong man to be in this kind of relationship (if he actually cares about his woman and is not just having some kind of sexual adventure), even if the woman doesn't realize it. Stay strong.
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