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Royou
on September 12th, 2009
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Gracie012 I to can make my eyes go fuzzy, and make my eye dialate, I'm suprised and pleased that I'm not the only one.
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Gracie012
replied on September 14th, 2009
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Wow, you can?! I'm glad im not the only one... when I was younger I asked my mom if everyone could do that, and I know know she didnt take m seriously at all cause she just said yes that everyone could. So this is deffinatly a good thing to hear. : )
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Royou
replied on September 14th, 2009
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Yes I truly can, from an early age, my brother used to say that I was strange as he couldn't do it. When I became interested in books, mainly Fantasy, I remember reading in a book about second sight and it being described and what the effects were, it was then that I wondered if perhaps I had this second sight, then I realised that this was all fiction, and did a little research, and found out that in centuries past it has been described and called second sight but for the main part associated with speaking with the dead and in the realm of witches, I've never been able to see things by doing it, but I can do it.
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Gracie012
replied on September 16th, 2009
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Wait, so do you believe that it is something like a second sight? I always thought that since I have a big imagination, that that is the reason why I can see diffrent shapes and faces everywhere... oh, and colors too. I can see the color changes in everything and everywhere. Even when I close my eyes, it looks like the colors are dancing around and making diffrent shapes and colors... I dont know how else to explain it. But it used to entertain me when I was younger... what do you think?
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uvhshannah
replied on September 20th, 2009
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omg! Gracie012 I see that aswell! i can make my eyes fuzzy, it also entertains me while in class.
But do you know if this is normal, to see these things?
it sometimes distracts me and confuses me, and will you please explain what second sight is?

Hannah =)
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Gracie012
replied on September 22nd, 2009
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Hey Hannah, Smile
Ok, well I'm not exactly sure what Royou means by second sight, but what I'm getting from it is that you can kinda see what no one else can. I have always thought that it is a no big ordeal that I could see things, and that its something that shouldnt be over thought, and as something that just happens. I still think that, but I never thought anyone else could really do that...

To answer your question on if it's a normal thing... I dont know. No one else I know of has ever mentioned that they can do this, but there probably thinking along the same lines as me. No big deal. Dont make it a big deal. But thats just on my nature, but I think the only way we are going to find out is if more people read this and piost if they can do this too.
If you'd like to p.m me hannah, then thats fine with me. Smile
(P.S. Guys, you can call me Gracie if you'd like. I dont mind.)
Thanks,
Gracie. Smile
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Royou
replied on October 19th, 2009
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Hi Gracie sorry it's taken so long to get back to you, have been very busy of late, what with the foster kids and moving to a larger house.

I have only ever once or twice seen colours around something, but no matter how much I try I can't do it anymore, I think because I'm trying to hard, the colours that you see are called aura and the colours that you see indicate the state of being of the thing you are looking at, don't ask me what colour means what as I don't know the answer to that.

Here is what I've found on wikipedia, don't take this as gospel it is all up to interpretation, if you want to find out more use google or your local library.

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History of symbolic visions
Though we hear most of the second sight among the Celts of the Scottish Highlands (it is much less familiar to the Celts of Ireland), this species of involuntary prophetic vision, whether direct or symbolical, is peculiar to no people. Perhaps our earliest notice of symbolical second sight is found in the Odyssey, where Theoclymenus sees a shroud of mist about the bodies of the doomed Wooers, and drops of blood distilling from the walls of the hall of Odysseus. The Pythia at Delphi saw the blood on the walls during the Persian War; and, in the Argonautica of Apollonius Rhodius, blood and fire appear to Circe in her chamber on the night before the arrival of the fratricidal Jason and Medea. Similar examples of symbolical visions occur in the Icelandic sagas, especially in Njala, before the burning of Njal and his family. In the Highlands, and in Wales, the chief symbols beheld are the shroud, and the corpse candle or other spectral illumination.

Second sight flourished among the Sami and the Native Americans, the Zulus of South Africa and Māoris of New Zealand, to the surprise of travellers who have recorded puzzling events that they have witnessed. But in these cases the visions were usually induced, not spontaneous, and should be considered as precognition.

Ranulf Higdons Polychronicon (14th century) describes Scottish second sight, adding "that strangers setten their feet upon the feet of the men of that londe for to see such syghtes as the men of that londe doon". This method of communicating the vision is still practised with some success. For the method see "Kirk's Secret Commonwealth of Elves, Fauns and Fairies", 1691, 1815, 1893. It is believed by some that if a person tells what he has seen before the event occurs he will lose the faculty. When this opinion prevails it is, of course, impossible to prove that the vision ever occurred. There are many seers, as Lord Tarbat wrote to Robert Boyle, to whom the faculty is a trouble, and they would be rid of it at any cost if they could.

[edit] Second sight and its association with death
Perhaps the visions most frequently reported are those of funerals, which later occur in accordance with the sight, of corpses, and of arrivals of persons, remote at the moment, who later do arrive, with some distinctive mark of dress or equipment which the seer could not normally expect, but observed in the vision. A fair example of second sight is the following from Ballachulish. An aged man of the last generation was troubled by visions of armed men in uniform, drilling in a particular field near the sea. The uniform was not England's cruel red, and he foresaw an invasion. It must be of Americans, he decided, for the soldiers do not look like foreigners. The Volunteer movement later came into being, and the men drilled on the ground where the seer had seen them. Another case was that of a man who happened to be sitting with a boy on the edge of a path in the quarry. Suddenly he caught the boy and leaped aside with him. He had seen a runaway trolly, with men in it, dash down the path; but there were no traces of them below. The spirits of the living are powerful to-day, said the percipient in Gaelic, and next day the fatal accident occurred at the spot. These are examples of what is, at present, alleged in the matter of second sight.

[edit] Second sight and health
Darna Shealladh is the Gaelic name given to "second sight", the involuntary ability of seeing the future or distant events. It originated in the Scottish highlands.

The sight may, or may not, be preceded or accompanied by epileptic symptoms, but this appears now to be unusual.

[edit] Second sight and extra-sensory perception
These phenomena may be classed under clairvoyance, premonition, and telepathy. There is nothing peculiar to the Celtic people to explain their reputation for having second sight; but the Gaelic words for it and the widespread opinion of local communities is that telepathy is the action of the spirits on the living, using the living as agents for their activities.

[edit] Study of second sight
The literature of second sight is not insignificant. "The Secret Commonwealth" of the Rev. Mr Kirk (1691), edited by Sir Walter Scott in 1815 (a hundred copies), and by Andrew Lang in 1893, is in line with cases given in "Trials for Witchcraft" (cf. Dalyell's Darker Superstitions of Scotland, and Wodrow's Analecta). Aubrey has several cases in his "Miscellanies", and the correspondence of Robert Boyle, Henry More, Glanvil and Pepys, shows an early attempt at scientific examination of the alleged faculty. The great treatise on Second Sight by Theophilus Insulanus (a Macleod) may be recommended; with Martin's Description of the Western Isles (1703, 1716), and the work of the Rev. Mr Fraser, Dean of the Isles (1707, 1820). Fraser was familiar with the contemporary scientific theories of hallucination, and justly remarked that the sight was riot peculiar to the Highlanders; but that, in the south, people dared not confess their experiences, for fear of ridicule. (A. L.)

[edit] See also
List of psychic abilities
Precognition
Premonition
Remote viewing
Diplopia
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I for one feel that these are gifts and that you have to be open to them, some people are closed to this sort of phenomena and are sceptical, which to me just means that they don't see it, so they don't believe it, as I said they are closed, what we don't understand we fear, and what we fear we tend to destroy, this has been mans problem for all time, we learn by being taught by others, and if we are taught that it is evil, then we believe that it is evil, it is the same for behaviour, we are taught this by our parents and or others, my partners mother is terrified of spiders, and so is my partner due to her mothers fear of spiders.

I for one believe that we have lost so much over the modern centuries, the witch hunts, were started due to the medical profession fearing the herb lady, and believing out of ignorance and the self important belief that only men should study medicine, so the bible was used to their advantage and hundreds of people, were killed due to this, I won't get in to a religious war by saying what I truly believe, (but will say this, I believe that the bible has over the years been added to, to suit the situation of the time) I find it ironic that in modern times we are now look at herbal remedies and the attributes of plant life all around us, we lost so much during the dark ages.

It all comes down to the fear of the unknown, I myself am guilty of this, I know that I have a gift, but am to afraid to pursue it for fear of what I may find, and the fear that once it's turned on I may not be able to turn it off.
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Gracie012
replied on October 20th, 2009
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Well, I could see how that could possibly be plausible. But hun, I dont think that I at least have this second sight. I see colors. if I space off or if I get bored, then I can focuse on the colors and lights dancing around either inside of my head or in the light of anything. I dont see how that is truly anything special. You may have something, but I dont think I have what you are talking about...

Oh, and a quick thing about the bible refrence where you stated that you believe the bible has been added onto over the years. Just real quick, I would like to say that that would be impossible. The scribs who were instructed to copy the bible to make a newer copy would have been killed if they messed up in the tiniest bit. So, why would they risk their life, if they would have gotten caught anyways? People would check over their workseveral times, and several people would do this...plus, if you wanna get into the argument over how it could be imperfect because human hands wrote it. Just to clear that up, it is perfect in God's sight because it is how he wants it. Why would he choose people who would put in anything BUT his word!...okay, just wanted to clear that up : )

But thank you for all of that information, that was very interesting and insightful to read. : )
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Royou
replied on October 21st, 2009
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You miss understand what I'm talking about, I mean that people of power have changed it, one of the kings of england did this, Henry the eighth I believe but I could be wrong, but one of them did, so that he could devorce one of his wives, this has happend many times in the past, I'm not talking about the scribes.
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Gracie012
replied on October 26th, 2009
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Oh, yes theres the King James version of the bible. I suppose that it is plausable that he could have changed or taken out books of the bible, and I acually think he did. I cant remember which ones, but im pretty sure he did take some out. But anyways, back onto the subjet of the topic. What exactly do you see? Do you think you have this second sight? I think you were the one who said that your afraid to explore even the idea that you might have it, but do you think its possible?
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Thedecimator
replied on November 11th, 2009
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My name is Kevin. I currently see sun spots and what I mean by that is what happens if you stare at the sun for a long enough time you will see Sun Spots, anyway I see these sun spots almost all the time and if it isn't the sun spots I see then I am seeing energy kind of like Neo does from the movie the Matrix I don't see Matrix code but I do see energy of all things except when I am sleeping and I dream that is the only time that I don't see energy when I look at something. It sometimes can be very annoying because when I read a book sometimes I am looking at the books energy too so it gets hard for me to read a book. Which is why I read books on-line because it is easier for me to read things on the Internet but I still see squiggly lines which are actually Energy readings of things. I also before someone is about to call me have ESP and hear phone ringing in my ears......
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Gracie012
replied on November 16th, 2009
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Hmmm, well I kinda do the same thing, except its not all of the time. If it is really bugging you, then maybe it is just an eye problem? Because I know I should have glasses, but there too much and im not going to ask that from my parents. So I would explain to the eye doctor everything you said on here, and just go from thee : )
Best of luck.
Gracie : )
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