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Q: Schizophrenia and rock music ??
asked by: randy123 on April 14th, 2009
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Hi, i have a very close friend since childhood. He is 24 and suffering from some kind of schizophrenia. i've been trying hard to convince him to understand the world is round (metaphorically), but i cant seem to get it though. it only agitates him more no more.

I have read some passages on schizophrenia, which involves hallucinations. But he doesn't have any hallucinations. I would disagree to anyone that medications don't help. They do, but only to some degree, in this case. He's recovered a lot in the past 3 years. But he still has not stopped the negativeness.

If i try to persuade him, why something is wrong, he would be agitated. We went to a "NMIH" institute in Bangalore (India), but the doctors there were not at all concerned. They came in, gave medicines, asked how you feeling, and went back. They hardly paid any attention to him, and there was absolutely no counseling, or any kind of talk-therapy included.

I personally feel, that medications do help, but without understanding the problem, and counseling, its useless, because the relapse becomes imminent. we had to come back, because he was feeling more and more irritated, and feared the problem may become more severe.

He likes Rock Music. and he listens to a lot of it. and hard core fan of incubus. but, he feels, there's a message being delivered to him from these people, through these songs. and every time he listens to these rock music, a new message is delivered. I was trying last night to explain him, how the thoughts change everyday, and its you who's interpreting those songs, according to your needs, Not them. They send out songs for the masses.

I dont know how to help him out. Taking him to a doctor seems useful, but i doubt there's any good doctor in India, who can counsel him, and treat him effectively. Medicines help, but not completely. I mean, he looks happy from a distance, but i know he needs serious help. and i don't have the expertise or knowledge how to do it. I don't how to talk to him, without annoying him. How to convince him without agitating him.

He does not trust me. and doesn't trust the internet either. he believes everything is fake,and everyone's after him for some reason. for that he must do something, which will end all the chaos.

Please help.
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solifelike
replied on August 11th, 2009
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Hi, I went through something very similar as do most people experiencing psychotic symptoms. its called ideas of reference, and i dont think it has anything to do with rock music, but everything wether it be a childrens cartoon or a national geographic magazine, everything seems to say something to or about you. There is no point trying to explain to him that this isnt happening because it is to him. no different to you percieving what this text is saying and someone trying to tell you that really its the queens shopping list.
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Gracie012
replied on September 22nd, 2009
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Hey, try getting him to listen to Pink Floid, The Wall. My friend is schitzophrenic, and it seems to me like it helps a little bit...

And as for trying to reason out with him that everything is real, and not fake... I dont know what to say. It's diffrent for everyone, and I dont know how bad he is. He sounds like he's in pretty deep though. Lie I said about my friend, I can usually get him out of one of his "slumps". If I cant then we both go off by ourselves someplace quiet and listen to music, or I will listen to him playing the guitar. It calms him down, and there is still someone there with him. Maybe all you can do right now is to show him that he is NOT alone. Because, I know from experience that it is EXTREMLY hard to even make him see logic when he is deep down into a slump... When I say slump, I mean like a one of his spells. He has two kinds, one I let him go off on and the other I dont. The one I do let him go on is his 'excited" self. When he seems to just be bouncing off of the walls. The other, is the one that I stay with him on. When he is extremly depressed and anti-social...
But anyways, in my experience, you cant make your friend see logic right now. You cant really convince him of anything at the moment. Dont get me wrong! I think you should keep trying, if your willing. But just know that it is going to be difficult. I think your right, you should get him to a diffrent doctor. the one you have sounds like their doing nothing for your friend...

Best of luck, and I feel for you... I really do.

Gracie Smile
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