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Lilly Ivy Extremely eHealthy
April 18th, 2008
I'm not very good at debating. I am pro-choice and have had quite a few interesting conversations with a friend that is pro-life. She brings up the 'potential' of the child becoming president or someone important. I know most pro-lifers would agree with her, but there is also another side to that. They would have a much higher chance of being a dead beat, breeding another unwanted child, spreading disease, etc. Especially if they are left in a orphanage and told they are never wanted by anyone. Not saying 100%, but in my opinion, it's more likely they WILL NOT contribute to society and become president.
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oopoop
replied April 18th, 2008
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Well, something like 1% of the entire US population is in prison (just google "US prison population" if you want details). What percentage then have criminal records? What percentage have a drug addiction? Let's compare that to how many presidents there are, or even research scientists, teachers, nurses, doctors and heck, garbage collectors because they are contributing to society too. Similarly, an economist has actually theorised that legalised abortion is responsible for about half the reduction in the crime rate since 1985: http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/990812/abort ion.shtml.
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meblonde01
replied April 18th, 2008
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I'm thinking of a few presidents that should have been in prison. And probaly more of them did things we will never know of..
I'm Pro-life. But I don't think a child should not be aborted because they "might" become president. I look at it as a fetus developing into a human being.. and should have a chace like I did.. Not what they Might grow up to be.
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jujujellybean
replied April 18th, 2008
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Re: Potential
Lilly Ivy wrote:
I'm not very good at debating. I am pro-choice and have had quite a few interesting conversations with a friend that is pro-life. She brings up the 'potential' of the child becoming president or someone important. I know most pro-lifers would agree with her, but there is also another side to that. They would have a much higher chance of being a dead beat, breeding another unwanted child, spreading disease, etc. Especially if they are left in a orphanage and told they are never wanted by anyone. Not saying 100%, but in my opinion, it's more likely they WILL NOT contribute to society and become president.


I hate this pro life argument. It's so dumb. that isn't the point at all! who cares what it grows up to be?!?!?!?!?! It is a human like me and you and deserves the same rights. end of story.
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Jude-Love
replied April 18th, 2008
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melblonde01 wrote:
I'm thinking of a few presidents that should have been in prison.


lmao...omg. so funny

Anyway, a fetus has teh potential to become anything. Good or bad. I think the real fact we have to look at is what is the potential for the child to have a good, normal life?
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Birch
replied April 19th, 2008
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I don't care for the potential argument either, but to throw it back, what is the potential of the woman who is facing an unwanted pregnancy?
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Jude-Love
replied April 19th, 2008
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I can't remember if I said this somewhere else or if it was, for some reason, deleted but when it comes to potential that is really not a valid argument against abortion. Fourteen year olds have the potential to legally buy alcohol. Should we just start letting them now anyway?
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oopoop
replied April 19th, 2008
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Jude-Love wrote:
I can't remember if I said this somewhere else or if it was, for some reason, deleted but when it comes to potential that is really not a valid argument against abortion. Fourteen year olds have the potential to legally buy alcohol. Should we just start letting them now anyway?


I agree. Otherwise we should also insist that every woman is perpetually pregnant -- pop one out and then start on the next. Because every sperm is sacred, and every potential human has to be given its chance.

No, "potential" works pretty well as an argument in favour of abortion (see my earlier post), but not against.

Also, it is wrong to even say there would be X number more human out there (and yeah, like there is such a shortage anyway), since so many of those who have abortions go on to have other children, many of which would not have been born if the aborted one had. Completely spurious argument.
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Tylanas
replied April 21st, 2008
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That's why I don't judge off of potential. I judge off of capabilities; and when the fetus is capable of life, it has a RIGHT to that life.
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