Am I Pregnant Forum - plan b and Nuvaring page 2

NotAshamed, gotta say...I am offended that you question my ability to read and comprehend. I was not attacking you, but you blatantly did that to me. I don't appreciate that in a debate.

To display my knowledge of English, I will explain my understanding of accumulate: to build up over time. Ok? Are you satisfied?

ALL birth control failure rates are accumulations over a period of a year. It doens't mean that EACH time you use it, this is what you have the potential to fail...it talks about over the course of a year.

You know that quote you gave? It tells you to see Table 2, and the Warnings page. Table 2 is an incredibly important piece to understanding this effectiveness piece. I've supplied the table below, with some alterations that I will explain:

You'll notice I took the liberty of circling the title of the table, which is important. Over the course of a year, this is the effectiveness of each birth control. Notice how most BC methods have 3 columns, because it takes into account repeated use. Right? So, ALL these failure rates are ALREADY ACCUMULATED (thus giving the second half to that quote you keep citing).

The below red circle (also denoted with a number 2) shows that EC methods are not really intended to be a primary source of birth control. They do not have three columns because they assume people are using it only when they need to (not whenever they have sex). The quote you gave REFERENCES THIS TABLE, which shows how less effective that routine birth control is, hence it being less effective over time (i.e. after time has accumulated).

Not enough? Go HERE for more info. Here is the direct quote I want the readers of this post to note:

Quote:

So why use it only as a back-up method?
While repeat use of Plan B is safe, EC should not be used as a primary contraceptive method, as it is less effective than many other contraceptives, including daily oral contraceptives and other hormonal contraceptives.10
For example, if a woman used Plan B was as her primary contraceptive method for a year, her chances of getting pregnant that year would be about 20%.11

Plan B does not lose effectiveness. It simply is NOT as effective as regular use of birth control pills or a shot. It is good to use if there is a situation (broken condom, missed pills, etc) of unprotected sex, but don't use it as a reliable source because as time ACCUMULATES, it is less effective as regular birth control. The quote you use assumes that it is understood that ALL failure rates are accumulated.

Do not make remarks questioning my intelligence. I did no such thing in my post to you.

Sydney,

First, (for future reference, not with me but in general) anytime you make statements like "your logic is off . . . that is horribly faulty logic. . . knowing is half the battle (which insinuates the person doesn't know), you're doing the exact thing you accused me of, questioning my intelligence and ability to comprehend. People like you interest me. You think that just because you put smiley faces and aren't as blantant as I am that there's no possibility of offense. I didn't take anything personally as I stated earlier while conversing with maddie, because I have thick skin.

Secondly, I looked at the table and the link you gave to further explain your understanding of the quote I pasted. If anything, all you did was basically say the same thing I was saying, in my opinion. Simply, plan b looses it's effectiveness over time. Whether that fact is due to accumulation of the medication or immunities are built up, it looses it's effectiveness over time. I wasn't attempting to explain why. That doesn't matter to me. If it looses effectiveness over time, for whatever reason, that's all I need to know.

Maddie34 replied on July 31st, 2008

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Ok, now both of you calm down. I don't want the point of this conversation getting lost in arguments about how well someone can read and understand.

Notashamed, I went to my health services and asked for a clarification. He didn't even ask me how many times I'd taken Plan B, he just told me that my chances of getting pregnant were the same the first time as it will be the last time. BUT "you can only be in favorable odds for so long. SOME PEOPLE just happen to stay in the favorable odds longer than others, and SOME PEOPLE get pregnant first time. How effective the pill is will always be the same, the only thing that changes is your luck."

He advised me that if I'm having an emergency that I should always take plan b, but that I'd be playing the odds every time -- including the first-- if I rely solely on EC, and "unless I love to gamble on life changing events, I should get on a more routine form of birth control." Not very professional, but he got his point across. Wink

So, you can take it how you want, but in cases of emergencies, I will always advise EC no matter how many times the poster has taken it. It's what my doctor apparently would have done for me, since he thought I was in the situation.

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notashamed replied on July 31st, 2008

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Maddie34 wrote:

I understand ones tone in a post isn't conveyed but trust me, I'm calm. Lol.

I agree, in case of an emergency, use emergency contraception. That's why it's called EC. I never disputed that. I would always advise using it as well. There's no harm to you no matter how many times you take it from what I understand. I will take it how I want. Smile

And that is, if I'm having sex and don't want a baby, I'm not that confident in EC. That's me. My personal experience hasn't prevented me from inaccurately understanding what I read. But, it has made me trust less in emergency contraception and condoms. If I were going to have sex and didn't want a baby, I'd most likely use birth control pills and condoms.

Georgia59 replied on July 31st, 2008

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wanna_be_mommy wrote:

if you taking the plan b ills you shoudnt be worried about getting prego because it kills the cell eve before geting to your egg .

Just to clear things up, plan b doesn't kill anything... it just works the same way birth control does. It prevents fertilization, or failing that, implantation.

blondiiiiii replied on August 7th, 2008

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i used plan b 5 days after unprotected sex.
will it still work? i bought it from a Pharmacy, the box said up to 3 days after but at Planned Parenthood they told me it could be taken 7 days after unprotected sex. Are there different types? Could the one at planned parenthood be stronger? ahhh. im freaking out. helpp.

Maddie34 replied on August 8th, 2008

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5 days after still gives you chance of prevention, its just lower than taking it 72 hours. It probably says 72 hours in the directions because they don't want people procrastinating and missing when they have the best possible chance for prevention.

Seven days... I don't know about that. Can you explain what they said? Did they mention how it would help at that point or at the how decreased the chances of prevention are at seven days compared to 72 hours?

The chances of it preventing anything at seven days is low.. really low. I'll look into this a little more though.

blondiiiiii replied on August 8th, 2008

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at Planned Parenthood they gave me a little card with the number on it for EC. it says a little bit about it and it mentions it is best to take it within 3 days but it also says it still CAN be taken up to 7 days after. but the sooner the better. of course.

Georgia59 replied on August 8th, 2008

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Umm.... yeah, I think there are different kinds. And sometimes docs will give you different instructions on when to take the two pills.

Plan B is a brand, if I'm correct, and I think there are other types of EC available, but I may be wrong. Plan B is what I got at planned parenthood.

But that's back when it was still prescription only... I'm not sure what they're giving out now.

So anyway, officially it can be taken up to seven days after, but you'll have to talk to the doc or someone at the pharmacy counter to be sure of the exact directions for that type.

lazslo replied on August 12th, 2008

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Re: plan b and Nuvaring

lazslo wrote:

Hello,

On the last day of my period (day 7 or 8 of cycle) I had unprotected sex. I took plan b about 2 or three hours later and started nuvaring the next day as the doctor ordered (he said taking the two together should be fine). Should I be worried about getting pregnant? I am freaking out here! Also when's the earliest I can take a pregnancy test.

So the last couple days I started feeling my normal PMS symptoms like sore boobs and depression and breaking out. I also was feeling crampy and really nauseous. Those are common nuvaring side effects but to be safe I went to the doctor and had a quantitative blood pregnancy test done yesterday. It was 15 days after the sex followed by plan b, and about 9 or 10 days after I think I would have ovulated.

Anyway I got the results today and it was negative. The doctor said if I don't get my period in 3 weeks to do another test. The lab ppl who did the test said the blood test is super sensitive at detecting pregnancy tho and I was hundred percent not pregnant when I did test. Was the test done too early though? Should I still be worried? My period is due in 5 or so days.

Mabel replied on August 12th, 2008

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No, the test was not done too early. Your doctor wouldn't have done the test if that were the case because it would have been frivolous.

It is very unlikely you would be pregnant. Although your period may be late due to the hormones in the nuva ring and the plan b, plus all the obvious stress you are feeling about the situation.

lazslo replied on August 21st, 2008

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just got my period. Thanks for all the input, guys!

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