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Q: PE issues - kegel exercises ?

asked by: Steven1234 on November 1st, 2009

New User

Apologies in advance for the long post, I am just trying to give all the information I can.

I am a generally fit 24 year old. I started having sex with my new girlfriend 4 months ago. The first time we had sex, being my first time, I did not cum at all. I still don't know if this was because I was either very relaxed (we were stoned and drunk) or because I was focusing so hard on what I was doing, trying to do it right. (most likely) Or possibly I was just extremely nervous.

The next few times were perfect, we would have sex for hours throughout the night until we were both exhausted. The problem is I have been getting progressively worse at sex, coming quicker every time.

Most mornings I wake up incredibly horny just waiting for her to wake up with the chance she might reciprocate. And it feels like I am already half way to orgasm just laying there thinking about sex for so long.
Once I came within 10 or so seconds of entering her, this was without foreplay, so could it have been the fact that she wasn't as wet increased the stimulation too much for me?

The last time we had sex I was trying to control my breathing, focusing on slow deep breaths, this went well for about a minute. But my concentration slipped and I came.

Needless to say this is intensely embarrassing and frustrating. My girlfriend is understanding enough to help me through it, but that being said we haven't had sex for a few weeks now. She has been going through a lot right now in her life and says that is the reason her sex drive is not the same. But it does make me wonder.

I think I am in the cycle of being so stressed about coming too quickly that it is in fact making it worse.

I have been doing Kegel exercises for about 3 weeks now and will continue to do them throughout the week until I see her on the weekend, (sex was promised) so I don't know yet if they are a help or a hindrance. I went from not being able to even locate my PC's or hold them for long, to now being about to squeeze and hold them at will. But while also trying the stop start masturbation training technique I sometimes feel like I am coming even quicker. And stopping more often than I am going is not my idea of good sex at all.

I have read that kegel exercises can in fact provoke premature ejaculation in men who previously had no problems. http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic45485. html
From what this man is saying it sounds like reverse kegals would be better suited to my case, to help me relax the muscles. Although it's unclear what they actually are.

With so much conflicting information out there, and 90% of it being sharks just trying to make money out of peoples desperate situations, it is hard to know what to believe.

I would rather not take drugs as these are just a quick fix and I don't want the side effects of anti depressant drugs that I don't need to be taking, I want to cure this naturally.

I am going to try having a few drinks with her this weekend and foreplay for at least ten minutes before intercourse, and I will post an update.

Replies(8)

Steven1234

replied on November 1st, 2009

New User

Oh also while I'm talking about the most embarassing topic any man can, let take it a bit further.

On that thread about reverse kegels it says that having more relaxed muscles will make you fart more often.
I don't fart often, and when i do its not loud.

Does this mean my pelvic floor muscles are very tight and therefore would be pressing on the G spot?

Steven1234

replied on November 4th, 2009

New User

"...90% of it being sharks just trying to make money out of peoples desperate situations..."

W0LF

replied on November 4th, 2009

Extremely eHealthy

Hey Steven1234
Anxiety generally works the other way. It will tend to make it more difficult for you to become erect, reach orgasm. I suspect your performance isn't actually getting worse but that the virgin anxiety you were feeling before was interfering with your usual pace for orgasm. How that you're more comfortable with sex it's much easier for you to reach orgasm.

Reverse Kegels is nickname someone came up with for a method they tried to prolong orgasm. As it is described in that thread, assuming it is being done "correctly", it doesn't impact the development of the Kegel muscle group in any way. It in fact isolates them. I've never seen any credible information that Kegel development causes the PC muscle group to work less effectively. It doesn't make sense that working muscles would cause them to function worse.

Kegel excercises do not have a significant impact on premature ejaculation from what I've read. Muscles in the PC group are the gate-keepers to erection. Development of the PCs and Pelvic floor musculature does give you better orgasm control however that kind of deveolopment isn't felt over a few months. They are benifits attained over decades.

Start-stop masturbation is the benchmark for premature orgasm therapy from what I've read. I'd suggest you stick with it if not increase your regimen. I feel it will be much more effective for you than Kegel exercise. Additionally I'd suggest you talk to your doctor to see what else can be done. You could be having a physiological problem that's hurting your staying power or you may be experiencing a side effect of medications you're taking.

As for this weekend, I know you're not fond of drugs, but I recommend you look into a lubricant designed to reduce sensation to help you perform until other treatments have a chance to work.

RealityTimes09

replied on November 8th, 2009

Experienced User

Kegels are a waste they only make premature ejaculation worse by setting yourself up for a sympathetic nervous response which is the opposite of what your trying to acheive. Stop and Start masturbation techniques are just as bad both of these combined will eventually turn you into a one pump chump. Reverse Kegals are your best bet along with meditation and add in some 5-HTP to get your serotonin levels up.

W0LF

replied on November 8th, 2009

Extremely eHealthy

I don't suppose there's any sort of source for your information RealityTimes09? Medical study? Scientific research? Published report of a medical body? Even the name of a doctor who will go on record as agreeing with you on any of this?

Kegels are amazingly effective in the long term at improving sexual performance and prolonging sexual activity in a man's later years. Start-stop masturbation is a medical therapy for the treatment of PE. Reverse Kegels are, in the absense of something published, a wacky internet fad that have as little to do with reverse and they do with kegels.

RealityTimes09

replied on November 9th, 2009

Experienced User

Wolf seems to think he is doogie howser from the 80's.......Where is all the feedback from the men who would agree that kegels cured their erectile difficulties??? Where are the stats? Reverse Kegels were praciticed long before the internet and long before you even existed. These medical studys that you are so much of a patron of are mostly hype.

W0LF

replied on November 9th, 2009

Extremely eHealthy

RealityTimes09
I'm deeply flattered by the NPH comparison but I'm really just a guy who has a lot of time on his hands and godlike reading comprehension. I cannot claim to have the greatness of The Neil in me.

I guess all of the conclusive study and evaluation of the effectiveness of kegel excercis would be in the New England Journal of Medicine and the works of Johnson and Johnson as well as the independent confirmation of other studies. Calling Western medifine hype while spouting wives tales and listing some guy on the internet as your source of medical information about human health and sexuality is the reason I feel compelled to challenge your rediculess posts.

Stabbing yourself in the head was also practiced before I was born too. Just as soon as some medical board endorses it I will begin to bother doing research into it to establish a valid benifit to health. Since I don't like to condemn anything without information I've done a lot of reading up on the so-called reverse kegels and virtually all information I've found is some guy on a forum who sounds remarkably like you claiming that their doctor is wrong and that reverse kegels are the way to go. They don't seem to be able to provide any kind of source either and they don't seem to have any kind of detailed information about the excercise. Since you're so enlightenned to this practice would you care to let us know what its origin is?

deosvx

replied on November 11th, 2009

New User

This is what I read so IDK if it works... If you exercise your PC muscle and develop it to be stronger you can stop Ejaculation and do other things not worth mentioning. The exercise is easy. To find the muscle, next time you pee, stop yourself... if you stopped you just flexed that muscle. Practice flexing that muscle 5 seconds, relax 5 seconds and repeat than flex for 10 and relax 10... 60 sec etc. Forgot the reps involved. Other very obvious things you can do is right before you feel you are going to ... STOP! and do something else. Change position, TLC, Oral whatever that doesn't involve your thing. Only prob with this if you already have a condom on and lose your erection, I find it hard to get it back fully cos of the condom preventing blood flow. ALso too if you are that turned on and horny, preventing ejaculation over and over may feel very painful when you do... kinda like getting kicked in the nuts! This may be due to too much semen built up... similar to holding it in when you have to pee and when you finally get a chance it may hurt.

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