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acountrygirlcansurvive

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Oppositional Defiant Disorder
Posted: 03-26-08 18:52pm

Hi Ya'll--- I have a 10 y.o. daughter that has been having issues in school this year and I have noticed it at home more as well. I took her to the pediatrician and also had her tested at school and they both came up with slight ADD and definately ODD. I don't know much about ODD and what I have looked up is about children that hit, curse, throw things, etc.. She does not do this, instead she ignores her teacher if she doesn't feel like doing her work or has already done similar work and she thinks "I already did that and doing it again is stupid" or ignores me about chores etc.., she lies just to be lying about stupid stuff, annoys her sister and or others, if you catch her in a lie she has outrageous tantrums crying "I'm not lying", she has sensory issues with how things feel on her feet and hands, like socks and gloves and will throw a complete fit if it's not right. She begged for some fake pre=painted glue on nails so my oldest put them on for her this week. She had them on for less than 5 minutes, realized she didn't like them, and wanted them off immediately! Threw a crying fit for the entire hour and 1/2 it took to soak them and get them off. She is exhausting me and I'm a patient person! Otherwise she's a happy kid and you would never expect anything. It was suggested to take her to a psychiatrist and I'm scared to do so. What if she lies and the psychiatrist believes it? How do I pick a therapist? I would want a child's one with experience in this type of ODD. I'm also affraid of it scaring her for life if I do or if I don't. Kids really need parent manuals!! She already was in rare form when I took her to the pediatrician for the evaluation. I'm at my wits end and could use some advice. Help!!
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Posted: 03-28-08 01:44am

Hi countrygirl. I wanted to reply to you sooner but was having difficulty with the site and the pages wouldn't load properly. Who knows?

Your daughter sounds somewhat like the story with my son. I took him to one medical center and they did an evaluation and workup and gave me the diagnosis of ODD and PDD (pervasive developmental disorder). I went on line, read books and researched both disorders and came away with the conclusion that the diagnosis was wrong. I could see some of the symptoms of both those disorders in my son but he just didn't have some of the key symptoms. He was defiant, raging, sensory issues (TONS of these), and many other behaviors that just did not fit with ODD. I took him to a pediatric psychiatrist. The work up she did came back with bipolar disorder, which is the conclusion I had come to at that point. I was relieved to know I wasn't crazy. ODD kids are typically violent with their behavior. They will act out. I know you read that and I have seen it in some kids.

Take your daughter to a pediatric psychiatrist - a doctor. See what they say. Psychiatrists are accustomed to clients lying to them. They will not be easily snowed by a child. To find a psychiatrist in your area that deals with children you can go to NAMI.org. This is the website for the National Alliance for Mental Illness. They have state by state directories. If there is no one listed that is specifically for children call anyway. Ask if the doctor treats kids. If not ask who does. If you get nothing there go to the public school and ask to get a number for the school district psychologist. Ask the psychologist for a reference for a psychiatrist who treats kids. If no luck there go to your pediatrician. You need to tell them you want a pediatric psychiatrist. If you still have no luck you can private message me and I will look through my stuff. Go with your gut on this. You do not think your daughter is ODD. You know her better than the pediatrician and school. Keep going until you are satisfied with the answers. You may want to look at this site www.thebipolarchild.com. They have lots of info for parents. I know you do not have a diagnosis of bipolar disorder for your daughter but you may want to look at it. There are good references there. The site has resources on it which may lead you to a pediatric psychiatrist in your area.

If you have any questions you can pm me anytime. I've been there and I know this is difficult. I hope some of this helps.
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antigone

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Posted: 03-28-08 01:47am

Hi countrygirl. I wanted to reply to you sooner but was having difficulty with the site and the pages wouldn't load properly. Who knows?

Your daughter sounds somewhat like the story with my son. I took him to one medical center and they did an evaluation and workup and gave me the diagnosis of ODD and PDD (pervasive developmental disorder). I went on line, read books and researched both disorders and came away with the conclusion that the diagnosis was wrong. I could see some of the symptoms of both those disorders in my son but he just didn't have some of the key symptoms. He was defiant, raging, sensory issues (TONS of these), and many other behaviors that just did not fit with ODD. I took him to a pediatric psychiatrist. The work up she did came back with bipolar disorder, which is the conclusion I had come to at that point. I was relieved to know I wasn't crazy. ODD kids are typically violent with their behavior. They will act out. I know you read that and I have seen it in some kids.

Take your daughter to a pediatric psychiatrist - a doctor. See what they say. Psychiatrists are accustomed to clients lying to them. They will not be easily snowed by a child. To find a psychiatrist in your area that deals with children you can go to NAMI.org. This is the website for the National Alliance for Mental Illness. They have state by state directories. If there is no one listed that is specifically for children call anyway. Ask if the doctor treats kids. If not ask who does. If you get nothing there go to the public school and ask to get a number for the school district psychologist. Ask the psychologist for a reference for a psychiatrist who treats kids. If no luck there go to your pediatrician. You need to tell them you want a pediatric psychiatrist. If you still have no luck you can private message me and I will look through my stuff. Go with your gut on this. You do not think your daughter is ODD. You know her better than the pediatrician and school. Keep going until you are satisfied with the answers. You may want to look at this site www.thebipolarchild.com. They have lots of info for parents. I know you do not have a diagnosis of bipolar disorder for your daughter but you may want to look at it. There are good references there. The site has resources on it which may lead you to a pediatric psychiatrist in your area.

If you have any questions you can pm me anytime. I've been there and I know this is difficult. I hope some of this helps.
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singlemamma

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Posted: 04-01-08 01:31am

My daughter is also ODD and ADHD without the hitting ect... that you are talking about too. I have a great book that helped a lot I'll find the title and post the title and author here for you.
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