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Q: Nice guys finish last.
asked by: Beline on June 4th, 2008
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I have always found it interesting that for some reason; really nice women tend to end up in relationships with jerks.

What is you opinion on the following statements?

1. Women like a challenge. A guy will be a stubborn jerk, treating her and others with an ‘I don’t give a darn’ attitude. He then slowly but surely changes his attitude towards her, making her think she is winning him over, and voila! She thinks that she is the only one who ‘can work with him/ understands him.’
2. Nice guys ‘turn off’ their sexuality to appear friendly and romantic, but by doing this they come across as asexual. At best, they confuse the woman as to whether they even find her attractive. The jerk then walks off with the girl because he is not afraid to be sexual.
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diamondsz
replied on June 4th, 2008
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You forget the ones who are really sweet, the woman who is a tomboy (moi) and then ends up with her best guy friend only to find out years later that he doesnt think shes feminine enough or that he can do better.
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killbill
replied on June 4th, 2008
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I don't think it has anything to do with being nice or not. I think we all have some issues that we need to resolve and we are sometimes unaware of why we make the unhealthy choices that we make. Maybe we had a childhood where one of our parents was emotionally unavailable and we keep reliving that issue in our romantic relationships trying to fix ourselves that way. I think everyone could stand to spend a substantial amount of time being single and getting to know ourselves and working out our emotional issues before seeking out a life partner. That way you know yourself and know you don't need that other person to exist, you can be in a relationship with them in a healthy way and know what you are looking for going into it rather than trying to make major changes to the other person and setting yourself up for dissappointment..
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cmyked
replied on June 4th, 2008
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I can't stand "fix-em-ups". Already dated an icicle; I'm done with that.
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AyaMiyaki
replied on June 4th, 2008
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I think different women have different attractions. I'm married to a VERY nice man. He's a good father and a hard worker. He's also not a "pretty boy" and a lot of women probably wouldn't give him a second glance. Many people have asked him how he ended up with me. He's the light of my life and makes every other person I've ever dated look like cement rocks next to flawless marble. He definitely finishes first in my eyes.

Then again, I probably wouldn't have gone on a second date with him if he hadn't held his own. Confidence and self-respect are extremely attractive, and I think a lot of "nice guys" are lacking these things to a degree. They go out of their way to allow people to walk all over them or lend a shoulder to cry on one too many times. Many women want to be with someone they think can handle their own, not someone they have to hold up, defend and reassure. I think that's why some women are attracted to "bad boys" - because of their confidence, bravado, and a sense of being swept off your feet and protected.
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Darkmoon
replied on June 4th, 2008
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I think it's true for everyone, personally. The better you treat someone the more they dump on you, and vice-versa. It's a game people have been playing with each other for centuries and I haven't met anyone of any sexual preference, gender, religion or skin color that hasn't complained about it at least once. Wink

The good news is that everyone has a good chance of finding someone they can finally be real with. I've enjoyed that for seven years and I think if my husband and I ever split up I'm just going to swear off dating and become a hermit.
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