in my eyes masturbation ids perfectly normal. i know i do it regularly and my gf knows and doesnt mind. i find that you shouldnt stop it; many people say not masturbating is unhealthy and i say they're right. if you have a craving to do it, do it! i think that as long as you try not to fantacise about people you know then you feel no guilt. people who are deprived of sex are normally very easily agitated and can become withdrawn whereas masturbation is like holding back a craving and if its healthy then just do it. believe what you want to but im just telling you my belief. sorry for spelling by the way new keyboard still getting used to it.

In my opinion, God gave us sexual urges as a natural and beautiful part of being human and we have the right to enjoy it.

But, if your religion prohibits sex outside of marriage ... you might want to talk with a spiritual leader about the steps that you can take.

As a religious person myself, I often struggle with the question of whether masturbation is right or wrong. After reading your post, I can understand exactly what you're going through. Despite the fact masturbation is widely accepted in society as a normal and healthy practice, I still refuse to believe it. Even though I haven't completely ridden my habit of masturbating.

In the Catholic faith, masturbation is a sin and I totally agree that it is. The only way I can masturbate is to imagine myself with a female with like you said "THAT HAS GOOD CHARACTER". Most men say they can masturbate witout thinking about women, but it's nearly impossible for me. So when I masturbate I am committing adultery in a psychological sense. Therefore this to me is wrong. I'm a devoted Catholic and I know most people will think I am foolish. But for me, masturbation causes me nothing but grief and lonliness. Still in the end, my religious beliefs still could not stop me from masturbating.

It wasn't enough to know "It is wrong." and that's it. I needed to know why and I attempted to search for concrete scientific evidence of why masturbation is wrong. So with a lot of surfing on the net, I found concrete scientific facts on how masturbation is unhealthy. But these facts are hard to find since nearly all health specialists accept masturbation as a normal healthy practice. Masturbation has healthy benefits but at the same time it can be harmful as well.

I've come across other interesting facts of why masturbation is harmful. If you search hard enough, you can find them. I'm no health specialist, but just a man in the same situation as you looking for a way to stop masturbating once and for all.

So far I've only answered one of your questions. There are no health risks if you stop masturbating. Most health specialists say masturbation reduces the chance of getting prostate cancer and I won't challenge that. But there are other ways to reduce the chances of getting prostate cancer such as eating more vegetables. Pigging out on veggies seems like a better solution than jerking off wouldn't you say? I actually feel more healthy when I don't masturbate.

Is it possible for me to completely stop masturbation for the rest of my life?

I think it's possible but definitely not easy. This is the greatest struggle for me. I know masturbation is wrong and the health risks involved and yet I still do it. Actually the longest I've gone without masturbating was 4 months. And then I fell back into the habit. there are health tips on how to stop masturbating such as reducing beef intake during dinner time. My personal belief is that it's all in the mind. If you get caught up in those naughty sexual fantasies then masturbation is the only solution. Try to think more positively in life and elimintate sexual animal desires. Avoid lonliness by getting involved in a real relationship with a woman that is flesh and blood that you truly want and need to love. And not some fantasy to satisfy your sexual cravings. This must sound funny coming from a guy that still masturbates but I've made it a goal in my life to rid myself of this nasty habit no matter what. Masturbation just doesn't feel right to me. I see masturbation as an addiction that takes time to ovecome.

Well I've tried to answer your questions as best I could. But more importantly I really want to let you know you're not alone in this struggle. I wish you the best of luck in your journey to rid yourself of this nasty habit.

AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU IN YOUR ENDEAVOR!

To nevergiveup. Thanks for your nice reply. It was really helpful. I have found one more from the rare group of people who consider masturbation to be sinful and wrong. I don't know what you think but I have a feeling people LIE when they claim they can masturbate without making an imagination of a woman. It is scientifically IMPOSSIBLE for them to masturbate without making an imagination of a woman. May be while masturbating their sexual desire has already risen to such an extreme level that the sperm just comes out just by touching and rubbing the pennis for some time. HOWEVER, one should note here we have to lust at a woman to excite our sexual desires. If you you don't feel anything sexually the sperm will never be ejaculated. The only possibility is that those who claim to have masturbated without imagining a woman, actually have already created a sexual desire for themselves by lusting at a woman and then when they go to the toilet (or wherever) they are already sexually so excited that they do not even have to make another imagination of the woman (which they have already done when they lusted at her the first time) and the sperm just comes out with a few rubbing at the penis. The process of masturbation for those people had actually already started the moment they lusted at the woman. You are absolutely right to say when we masturbate we commit adultery in a psychological sense and YOU DON'T SOUND FOOLISH AT ALL. As far as prostrate cancer is concerned, I agree with you that masturbation is the last thing that we should go for to prevent it. Masturbation may have some health benefits but something that is beneficial is not always what we should do. For example, if I want to help the poor, I can not do it by stealing money from an honest and rich person. Though it is not harming the rich man (because he is still extremely rich) and benefiting the poor but it is still wrong. I have to admit if I could ever stop masturbating for four months (like you did) I would thank God like any thing. Sometimes I struggle to stop it for even four days (Although I am making small improvements). I absolutely agree with you that if we can avoid our naughty sexual fantasies, we can avoid masturbation as well. I liked your views on forming a real and true relationship with a woman (still searching the true woman!) rather than masturbating. I don't know how frequently you masturbate now but I have a feeling you have gone a really long way in terms of stopping this sinful habit as compared to me specially when I read you were able to stop it for four months at one stage whereas it is sometimes difficult for me to stop it even for four days (as I mentioned earlier). Any ways, I highly appreciate the time you spent in replying to my post. May God protect your chastity and glorify you in the Garden of Bliss.

I used to think like you, concernedn. I was younger, but I was more religious. I'm Muslim, and in Islam, masturbation is also a sin. So, when I masturbated I felt a great deal of guilt afterward. As I grew up, I've began to believe more in Science than in religion. I began to question why masturbation is condemned in my religion.

Masturbation is clean, private, and harmless. By releasing one's sexual urges through masturbation, the chance of committing sexual assaults decreases. Being a single, I cannot continue life without satisfying my sexual urges. Sex is a primitive and vital need that you cannot ignore. By masturbating I'm able to continue my life normally and be productive enough to help my society.

You cannot control what you think about, and it's not wrong (at least in my religion) to think about bad things. The human being has evolved a unique ability which is "Imagination". You cannot suppress this ability. It's uncontrollable. In Islam, it's not wrong to look at a woman in the street and think about her in a sexual way. It's only wrong if you sexually assault her. God is forgiving, and He does not punish you for your imagination.

I'm against sex outside marriage, but I'm not against masturbation.

Haisook, thanks for your reply. I have a few points to make though. I am more or less alright with masturbation is private (whether you are doing the right thing in privacy that remains to be argued) and medically harmless (whether it is spiritually harmless that remains to be argued as well). However, I totally disagree that masturbation is clean. In what sense is it clean? We are making an imagination of a woman and getting the psychological pleasure of having sex with her without her prior consent. So how clean is that? In fact it’s quiet as bad as rape. If you are masturbating and imagining a woman you are actually psychologically raping her in the sense that she probably would not have allowed you to have sex with her if you had asked her to do so and in the sense that you are getting the psychological pleasure of raping her because you are doing so without her prior consent. In that sense masturbation would be wrong for atheists as well (not just people of Islam, Christianity, or Judaism whose faiths are based on similar principles) since I guess even an atheist would consider rape to be wrong. The matter turns out to be even worse when the women that we imagine while masturbating is chaste. When we masturbate making an imagination of a chaste woman we are getting the psychological pleasure of raping her since she would never agree to have unlawful sexual intercourse and needless to say she is not mad enough to give any of us a permission to masturbate while thinking of her. I seriously don't think masturbation is the right way to reduce the chance of committing sexual assaults. Honestly speaking, I would not be too happy with myself if I masturbate to make sure I do not commit sexual assaults. I think there are other ways for that. If our faith on God is pure and true we can always prevent unlawful sexual relationship even without masturbation. Yes, sex is indeed a vital need that cannot be ignored but that does not mean masturbating is the solution for that. God has indeed created the beautiful system of marriage for this reason; so that we do not give away to our lust and wishful thinking. You claim to lead your life normally and be productive enough to help the society, well, I guess that is possible even without masturbation as well. If you search for the truth from the bottom of your heart, I am sure you will feel a lot better if you don’t masturbate and be closer to God although you may not find it easy to get rid of it at the very first attempt. Who told you Islam allows thinking about a woman in a sexual way and it is not wrong? Reflect on the following verse of the Quran, "Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: And Allah (God) is well acquainted with all that they do" (24:30). Here God commands us to lower our gaze and guard our modesty NOT TO LUST AT WOMEN THAT WE SEE ON STREET. God tells us in the Quran He will forgive us for the sins that we commit unintentionally and certainly lustful desires are NOT unintentional. Yes, God is indeed merciful and there is no doubt about that but He is not going to be too happy with us if we give away to our lustful desires. At the very end you said you are against sex outside marriage but not masturbation, I, however, am against both. In summary, there are two things that we need to understand. First, when we masturbate making an imagination of a woman we gain the psychological pleasure of raping her since it is done without her prior consent and she probably would have never agreed if we asked her to have sexual intercourse with us. Second, if I do something and I can not admit doing it, I am doing something that is wrong. I can never admit to the woman whom I imagined while I masturbated that I masturbated making an imagination of her. So, it is a wrong thing that I have done and that is why I am unable to admit to her what I did. Having said all these, I would like to make it very clear that my intention is not to force you to believe that masturbation is a sinful act but I am rather trying to convince you and present the truth as I understand it. Otherwise, whether you masturbate or not does not take away or add anything to my deeds based upon which God will judge me. You have the absolute freedom to do what you like. To you is your way, to me is mine. God is indeed the best Judge for whether masturbation is right or wrong. May God guide us all.

That was a great and precise reply!

First, I didn't mean we are allowed to go on looking at women and lust on them. What I meant is that if, by chance, you met a woman, and then went home, and thought about her in a sexual way. This is not wrong in Islam. But you should stop here. Further actions like masturbating or sexual harassment is not right in Islam.

I fail to understand why many religions prohibit masturbation. If that's to encourage marriage it's plausible, but most married men used to masturbate before marriage, so masturbation is not a substitution for marriage. You stress on the point that by masturbating to a woman you're like raping her because she wouldn't have allowed you to copulate with her. Well, that's an unproven philosophical hypothesis. Who knows, may be she would have gave you permisssion if you asked her. May be she just wouldn't care. She's out of your physical world. She's just in your imagination. You're not hurting her in any way. In fact, you're hurting yourself if you ignore your sexual urges. It's as if you're hungry, but you won't eat for a philosophical reason, like "Shouldn't I give this food to the poor? If I ate it, then I'd be a thief, therefore I won't eat it, and I'll remain hungry.". Now, neither you nor the poor got the food. You'll tell me we really should offer help to the poor, which is undoubtedly right, but you can't feed every single poor person in the world, not even in your state. What I meant by this indirect example is that you shouldn't keep yourself within philosophical restraints. In my opinion, unless a person does physical or psychological harm to another person, they are not guilty. You are not harming the women you think about while you masturbate in any way.

By the way, later Islamic preachers have allowed masturbation. And others allowed masturbation in case one's sexual urge is very high that they would be committing rape if their sexual urges had not been fulfilled.

Masturbation to me is a natural temporary way to fulfill my sexual needs until I get married. Without unleashing this need in form of masturbation (or other sexual relationships which I do not approve of), I'm sure I'd be very psychologically distressed.

Many people do not masturbate and they're living with it normally. For me, it'd be very difficult, and I don't even think I need to try quitting, because I don't think it's wrong in the first place. Smoking is harmful. Sexual relationships get you STDs. But masturbation is really clean from a practical and scientific points of view.

First off to answer concernedn's question, nowadays I only masturbate once a week and sometimes every few days or so. Or at the most even 3 weeks by some miracle. It's weird... I don't know how I was able to go four months without masturbating but it's no joke. I really did it! Like I said I masturbated a lot when I first started. So I can understand why it's so hard for me to quit now. And yes I agree, you definitely need to lust for a woman in order to masturbate, but there must be a way to control that lust to lessen the urge to masturbate. I appreciate your prayers and support. I am always continuing my endeavor to quit masturbating but obviously it's not easy. And I also agree with you of what you said about the sperm being released shortly after touching the penis. You must be referring to pre-ejaculation. That's also a negative consequence of masturbating frequently.

When I fell back into the habit after four months, I started to believe that it was impossible to quit masturbating. And even now I still think it's wrong. I think we should also consider the fact that masturbation is wrong whether you use your imagination or not. The act itself alone can be a sin because you are not fulfilling the true purpose of your sexual organ. God created women so the man can multiply. And that's it! Why should we do anything else other than that with our sexual organs. If masturbation doesn't give you kids then why do it? It's really just common sense.

Haisook, you do have really good points. Man has sexual desires and cravings that we cannot ignore, but I disagree that it is uncontrollable. A wise man once said, "The body always follows the mind." If we find a way to control our sexual cravings by filtering out lustful thoughts then I think it can be controlled. We need lustful thoughts in order to have sex. But if we indulge ourselves too much in them and create fantasies, then it becomes uncontrollable. You say masturbation can prevent people from committing sexual assault, but I think the opposite. I think the more you masturbate the more you'll want or even need to do it again. And there is scientific proof of this. You look to science to justify masturbation whereas I look to science to condemn it. But I can admit that there are more scientists out there that approve of masturbation than those that disapprove. I prefer to listen to scientists that disapprove of it!

You say that sexual relationships get you STDs but isn't that what the sanctity of marriage is for. I believe in the sanctity of marriage very firmly and to me this makes perfect sense. How can you have sex without love? This is what God intended for man when he created us. If you have sex after marriage then STDs pretty much become a nonissue. You said masturbation is a good thing to do temporarily until marriage, but I'd also like to point out that there are many men that masturbate even after marriage which I find totally ridiculous. You equate sex with food, but those are two completely different things, in my opinion. Of course because you won't die if don't have sex or masturbate. That's a given right there. I think because the majority of society says masturbations is okay that everyone else just gives into it. People just keep doing it all the time and they can't quit. And many people ignore the negative consequences of masturbation for the sake of fulfilling sexual cravings.

Haisook, thanks once again for your reply. First of all, your answer is, unfortunately, self-contradictory. You said you didn't mean we are allowed to go on looking at women and lust on them. Up to this point I am alright. Then you said what you meant is that if, by chance, we met a woman, and then went home, and thought about her in a sexual way that is not wrong. At first you are saying we are not allowed to lust at women and then immediately you claim if we met a woman by chance and then went home and think about her in a sexual way that is not wrong. Well, can you tell me the difference between seeing a woman by chance on the street and lusting at her and seeing the same woman in the street by chance and thinking about her in a sexual way after you have reached home and does that difference make the former sinful and latter acceptable? The honest answer is there is only one difference between the two BUT that difference does NOT make former sinful and the latter acceptable. In fact BOTH ARE sinful (if not equally sinful). In the first case you are lusting at the woman as soon as you see her on the street by chance and in the second case you don't lust at her as soon as you see her in the street by chance, however, you do indeed lust at her much later after you have reached home (by thinking about her in a sexual way). So the difference is in the former case you lust at the woman when you see her but in the latter case you lust at the woman not when you see her but rather much later after you have seen her (after you have reached home). What is more important than the difference between the two is the fact that both involve lusting so both are sinful (and you agreed as well lusting is wrong at the very beginning of your reply). Masturbation is prohibited in religions because you are not allowed to lust at any woman that you feel like. I never said masturbation is a substitution for marriage. In fact I have talking against this throughout my previous reply. I guess you probably meant "Marriage is a substitution for masturbation". If most married man used to masturbate before marriage that is their problem and that does not make masturbation acceptable. You said I stressed on the point that by masturbating to a woman you're like raping her because she wouldn't have allowed you to copulate with her. No, I did not exactly say that. I said when we masturbate we get the psychological pleasure of raping a woman since it is done without her prior consent. Actually raping a woman and getting the psychological pleasure of raping that woman is NOT the same thing. However what is important to note here that although both are not equally sinful but both are sinful. Let me put it this way, when you rape a woman it is sinful because you are having sex with her outside marriage (adultery) and you are doing it without her prior consent (rape). Masturbation, on the other hand, is sinful because you are lusting at a woman, having the psychological pleasure of having sex with her (adultery in psychological sense) and doing so without her prior consent (rape in psychological sense). This is not an "unproven philosophical hypothesis". You are saying how I can be sure that the woman would not have agreed to copulate with me. Well, if you want to be sure for something as simple as this, well, move to the street and ask 100 random women whether they are interested in having sex with you. I can challenge you and say at least 90 out of the 100 will not agree to do it and the response that you will get from them will be in the form of a slap (at least). Of course, if you go and ask prostitutes that is a different issue altogether. I am talking in a general sense. May be for your girlfriend or wife you do not need permission but once again that is a different issue as well. Even the prostitute will probably not agree to get involved with you without money and if you ask for her permission to masturbate making an imagination of her, chances are high even she will give you a nice slap as well. So, let’s put it mathematically, every time you masturbate making an imagination of a woman there is at least a 90% probability that you are committing the sin of getting the psychological pleasure of raping her since it is being done without her prior consent. Yes I agree, she is not actually being physically involved with me and she is only in my imagination but you are actually diverting from what I said in my reply. I was always talking about getting the psychological pleasure of raping her and I never said she is actually being hurt. It is the person who is masturbating is committing the sinful act since he is lusting at a woman and getting the psychological pleasure of raping the girl. So, where does the question of the girl or woman actually being physically hurt come from? As far as she being psychologically hurt is concerned, she would have definitely been hurt had I admitted to her that I masturbated while making an imagination of her (especially if she is a chaste woman) and that would probably be expressed by slapping me (as I said earlier). If you still don’t believe me, why don't you try admitting to the woman whom you imagined while masturbating that you masturbated making an imagination of her. Again, there is a 90% chance (if not more) that she is not going to be very happy with you even if she is an atheist. It is really all about common sense. The simple logic is that (as I said in the previous reply) if you do something and can not admit doing the thing it is a wrong thing that you are doing). So if you think masturbation is not wrong then you should admit to every woman whom you imagined while masturbating. You are telling me that Islamic preachers have allowed masturbation but I am telling you God tells you in 24:30 "Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: And Allah (God) is well acquainted with all that they do". So it is up to you to decide whether you want to listen to what the scholars are saying or what God wants you to do. Think who has more authority, the scholars or God? If you honestly answer to yourselves you will find masturbation to be wrong. Masturbation is not any natural temporary way to fulfill your sexual needs rather you are faltering constantly before your lustful desires. If you don't masturbate you won't be psychologically distressed, it's only your wrong thinking. If masturbation is not harmful from a scientific point of view that does not make it correct from moral perspective as well. If you think masturbation to be so clean and my argument to be "unproven philosophical hypothesis" then why don't you admit to the woman whom you imagined while you masturbated? Every time you masturbate you should admit to that woman whom you imagined while masturbating if you find it so much acceptable and clean and my so called "unproven philosophical hypothesis" may become a "proven fact". Finally, let me mention again whether you masturbate or not does not add or take away anything from my deeds based on which God will judge me. My objective is only to present the truth the way I understand it. If you honestly ask yourself you will come to know whether you commit a sin or not by masturbating. God bless you.

nevergiveup, your reply is highly appreciated. Thanks for your support. I think it is possible for you to completely quit masturbation if you are strongly determined to quit it. If you can live without it for four months, you can live without it for the rest of your life. Can you please tell me how reliable is the website name that you gave me regarding the harmful effects of masturbation even though I am ready to quit masturbation solely because it is sinful? But, then again, when I have to convince someone who does not believe in any religion I need to be able to give medical facts as well. Also, I recently talked with a urologist and he told me there is no harmful effect of masturbation (medically) except that when you will have sex with your wife it won't give you much satisfaction (if you have a habit of masturbating too much). I hope you understand. May God help you in your Endeavor.

I happened to stumble upon this discussion today - I know it's unusual to find a woman writing in a men's condition forum, but I think this issue pertains to both sexes.
I am also one of the few in today's society that believes masturbation to be wrong. At times I find myself completely frustrated with men and have almost given up hope that I will ever find a man who recognizes masturbation as a wrongful act and is willing to work to stop. I know that as a woman I am not prone to the same kinds of sexual temptations which probably contributes to my frustration and inability to understand the "need" to masturbate. Of course I am human and also want to one day experience sex within a healthy and loving marriage, but until that comes I have no need to satisfy sexual desires through masturbation - I can block out sexual desires fairly easily. So why do men need to? If I can control myself, why can't they as well? Of course I know that we are biologically and chemically different - men are more visual creatures. I understand that. My greatest struggle is trying not to blame men for this and I constantly question whether there are men who are able to completely stop masturbating or who have never masturbated. Needless to say, I am often left without much optimism. It seems like sometimes us women must always be the strong ones when it comes to sexual purity. And it gets very wearisome being alone in that task. When my past boyfriend and I were dating, I was devastated to find out that he masturbated on a regular basis. Although I knew he cared deeply about me, I still felt as if I weren't good enough for him. My company, my presence, my entire essence weren't enough to satisfy him. Even though he also shared my belief in saving sex until marriage, he could not share in my struggle to remain pure until that time. I recognize that many women will probably disagree with me and that many believe masturbation to be a healthy, normal thing for men and women, but I know for me and some of my closest friends masturbation hurts. It's a complete blow to a woman's entire being, even if she is the one being thought about during the masturbation.
With all that being said, I myself am trying to give men more credit for coping with this struggle. I greatly applaud you men for your efforts to remain sexually pure. You are helping to restore my faith that more men like you actually do exist in the world. And I am also working on not faulting men for their sexual tendencies. I recognize that it is a great struggle for you all and that I may never fully comprehend it. I will continue to pray for every one of you and hope that you do NOT give up. Your future wives will thank you. I thank you.

rednel, Your reply is highly appreciated and thanks for considering masturbation to be wrong. If you thought you would never find a man who recognizes masturbation as a wrongful act and is willing to work to stop, you are wrong. I and nevergiveup are two examples. I can swear by God I am making an honest and determined effort to stop this sinful and dirty habit completely (I am not doing so to impress any girl but rather to purify my chastity and get closer to God). You asked if you can block sexual desires fairly easily why can't men do? If you can control yourself, why can't men as well? Well, to be honest, most men (and women as well) masturbate simply because they give away to their lustful desires. I believe if every single men and woman are strongly determined, they can completely eliminate masturbation from their life (without even being involved in sex outside marriage). It only depends on our honest willingness to get rid of this dirty habit. If men and woman are biologically different that is not a good excuse for either or both of them to masturbate. God created us to men and woman to form a true love relationship with each other and get married surely not to commit adultery, rape, or masturbate. If God created to men differently from women that only shows the great diversity in his creation and this does not give anyone to make an excuse to masturbate. I have heard two people probably in "Men's Chat" forum claiming to have never masturbated. Whether they are telling the truth that is a different issue. I am sure there are men (although very rare) who have never masturbated in their life or those who have been able to completely stop masturbation. I disagree with you as far as "women must always be the strong ones when it comes to sexual purity" is concerned. That is the norm in society. In my eyes God wants men and women make equal effort to protect their chastity. I absolutely agree with you I will only masturbate if the person whom I love is not enough for me. Her company, her presence, her entire essence isn't enough to satisfy me. If I claim I love a woman and at the same time I masturbate I actually don't love the woman. I strongly believe masturbation destroys our chastity at least psychologically. In that sense I have destroyed my chastity (a great gift of God) psychologically. The only thing that I can I do now is to completely stop masturbating to ensure my chastity does not get further destroyed and ask for forgiveness from God. I AGREE and STRONGLY AGREE that masturbation is a complete blow to a woman's entire being, even if she is the one being thought about during the masturbation and the same applies for the woman who masturbates. At the very end of your reply, you said you greatly applaud we men for our efforts to remain sexually pure. You said you greatly applaud we men for our efforts to remain sexually pure. We are helping to restore your faith that more men like us actually do exist in the world. Thanks for your generous compliment. I would like to say to those women the same things who are refraining from sexual activities until marriage and from masturbation for the whole life. Not only my future wife will thank me if I am able to stop masturbation but also the future husbands of those women remaining sexually pure (not masturbating and virgin until marriage) will be thanking them. It works both ways. Even I will also be praying for all those women who are making a sincere effort to give up masturbation. rednel, May God bless you and protect your chastity.

Think of it, that each part or function of our body, which isnt used more, goes back or becomes stundet!
What isnt needed by your body - that will be reduced. I mean it would be very pitty!!!

jack6, stundet = ???

You said what isnt needed by your body - that will be "reduced". I dont understand what does "reduce" mean in the context of this sentence? What gets reduced?

What jack6 meant is probably this: when you don't use an organ of your body that often (e.g. paralyzed limb or left hand in right-handers), the muscle bulk decreases and atrophies. I'm a medical student, and this is true. It's called Disuse Atrophy. Not sure if it applies to the spongy network of the penis.

excuse my mistakes always again.
in the dictionary it stand so.
i dont mean only the spongy network of the penis, the semen production will decrease too.
less using brings less motion, bloodcircuit aso. how haisook writes: it is so with each organ of each creature.

Haisook, The last sentence of your reply reads "NOT SURE" if it (Disuse Atrophy) applies to the spongy network of the penis." Sorry to oppose you but if you are UNSURE about something you should NOT use it to prove your point. The concept of Disuse Atrophy does not apply to the penis. No scientific proof for this has yet been discovered. It is unfortunate, being a medical student, you are using using an argument to support your point which is yet to be proven. If I had wished I could have stated unproven arguments such as masturbation causes fatigue, acne,loss of weight....... But I haven't done that simply because there is no proof for these claims. I talked with a Urologist recently and he told me there will be NO harmful effect if a person does not masturbate throughout his life. So I would like to follow the advice of an expert urologist who is expert in this field and obviously speaking on the basis of proven scientific facts, unlike you (speaking only based on UNPROVEN statement). Having said these, I still appreciate your honesty for mentioning that you are NOT SURE if Disuse Atrophy applies to the spongy network of the penis.

jack6, whatever I told Haisook, more or less applies to you as well (not being harsh on you, telling the truth).

jack6, by the subject of your first reply was "Nonsens!". I guess you considered my arguments against masturbation to be "Nonsens". Just by saying something is "Nonsens" does not make it nonsense. You do not give say why my arguments were "Nonsens". Instead, you shifted to giving UNPROVEN medical statements which themselves are NONSENSE since they are UNPROVEN. Sorry for being a bit harsh but that is how it goes.