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Q: my b.f ex is distancing his daughter from him...
asked by: CoolGlassofH2O on August 1st, 2008
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For the past 3 months after finding out that my boyfriends baby mama didn’t want him to go visit his daughter because she still had feelings for him(not because her current boyfriend would be mad...she had made that lie up.)i asked him how his lil girl was doing. He says he hasn’t heard from them in 3 months. No phone calls to keep him posted, no pictures...nothing. i asked him if he knew why and he said “oh i didn’t tell you? last time i talked to her was when the whole drama happened in may. She said she was having problems with her boyfriend and didn’t want me to go cause she didn’t want anything to happen. That it was her not me. that she didn’t want to confuse the child on who was her father.”

That pissed me off so much. So from a female point of view...she prefers the other guy to “act” like a father to her kid, than the real biological father? Just because hes so far away. so i said “oh so she finally gave up?” he looked at me and looked confused so i told him. that in june after she had made up that stupid my-boyfriend-will-get-mad-if-you-visit- excuse. He was still feeling a lil bumbed out about the whole situation and we had a night in, watching movies, drinking, spending time together alone. And he told me “the real reason why she didn’t want me to go was because she still had feeling for me, that she would be crushed watching him leave again. She said she was angry that i had fallen in love with you and that we were living together, that it should have been her not you that i was with.” I was stunned out of my mind! When i found that txt i never brought it up cause it didn’t matter, he was with me so why should i make a big deal out of it rite? But suddenly hes telling me about it!

He says he cant remember much of what he said. But i told him calmly. “i know your not a spiteful person, and i know you wouldn’t make something up as serious as what you just told me just to make me mad or jealous, so i know its true. And i don’t care if she does still feel for you, why? Because you love me and shes just going to have to get over that. But please respect my decision when i tell you that she disgusts me, for putting us thru this drama, for her using your daughter just to try to get to you ( when shes angry she.ll make stupid remarks on how he would be a better father if he were there with her and the kid, etc hurtful things).”

He didn’t say anything, he just nodded. I told him i wasn’t too shocked because from the moment we met and started making things serious, it felt to me she was trying to pry into our business. And i confessed to him that in the beginning i was scared that just of the simple fact that she had his kid that he might go back to her. He just hugged me and shook his head hard, saying he would never go back to her. He did say something that the way i understood it was we would never be in a situation were our kids would be confused on who their real father is, cause their real father would be there with them. Sorta made me smile but i felt a lil sad for his daughter cause it reminds me of me when i was little. My father passed away when i was 3 and my step dad has been the only father ive ever known. And my boyfriend tried explaining how he thinks i would feel if my father was alive and trying to make up for those years. Id be angry and i wouldn’t recognize him as my father..simple as that. So in a way i was telling him “if your ex feels the need to distance your daughter from you, when your kid is older and asking her why she hasn’t heard from her real dad. Shes gonna have to step up and tell her the truth. That she distanced you from her. And then all hell is gonna break lose, and since its her fault shes gonna have to deal with it and explain it to her. But...she wants things this way then so be it. Sorry its so long but i really needed to get that out and possibly get some input.
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harmony1
replied on August 3rd, 2008
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Your boyfriend needs to start seeing his daughter. It's as simple as that. I'm sorry his girlfriend is so immature and being spiteful at the moment but this can't stop your boyfriend from seeing his daughter. he needs to step up. he has a duty here. His daughter will resent him one day, not because her mother pushed her father away but because her daddy didn't try hard enough. Why don't you both apply for joint custody or go to the courts and get visitation rights. Your bf can't just forget about her. She's just an innocent child. Fight back guys, don't take no for an answer. I think you bf and his daughter will both be better off as a result.
You're such a good person for caring so much.
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CoolGlassofH2O
replied on August 3rd, 2008
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i had previously mentioned it to him about possibly fighting for custody, but we have nothing to offer her, we live in a one bedroom apartment and have been struggling like any couple to pay our bills. and right now im trying to find another job. he tells me his ex talks to his mother, but wont even call him. it angers me off that shes acting so immaturely. she saw that we were gonna be together for the long run and it pissed her off, but she shouldnt be spiteful and distance his daughter from him. i agree he could try a little harder tho, bug her and call her constantly just like she does him lol

its just hard trying to establish ourselves here, trying to get our things together and to suddenly bring a 5 year old into all of it would be chaos lol. plus his mother is a firm believer that you shouldnt take a child from its mother so that would make things worst. plus after she so called "confessed" that she still had feelings for him and that she doesnt really like us being together, i kno things wouldnt be so easy. but we.ll keep trying to get a hold of his daughter. i already toldmy boyfriend i really dont care if she doesnt like me, if shes jealous and acting butt hurt cause her plan didnt go as planned, she can say all she wants..in my eyes shes jus an immature lil girl, who told her ex she was pregnant 2 weeks after he came back home thinking he would run back to her. lol i better stop before i continue ranting about her,
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harmony1
replied on August 5th, 2008
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Sounds like you are going through a lot. Just because you live in a one bedroom appartment doesn't mean you can't get visitation rights. Here where I'm from that usually every second weekend. This child just needs to feel loved. I hate manipulative mothers like your bf daughters mother. She doesn't seem to care about anyhing but herself. true a child does need her mother but anyone will tell you that chn need their fathers too. It's just too damaging for them if they don't. They don't understand. They think they're not loved.
Honestly i'd go through the courts. That way she has to hand her over to you. Your bf must be dying inside. I can't even begin to imagine how he feels.
That little girl is lucky her daddy found a girl like you. Not all girlfriends care about their partners chn the way you are and it's really wonderful to see. You be his strength and push him along a little. That little girl really needs to be a part of your lives.
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CoolGlassofH2O
replied on August 6th, 2008
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had to re-edit my current feelings...
well today i found him looking for airline ticket to possibly see his daughter. and it bumbed me out cause i already know how she feels about him, and how they act together ( i.e they have history together so they flirt, he was drunk once and asked her to send boob pics. when we were first dating they would still flirt, even though he assured me he would never go back with her or take it any further and he still says that to this day * rolld eyes*)

he says he doesnt give a damn how she feels but that still doesnt put me at ease. hes still considering going for a week alone, even though ive pleaded to him if i can go. im happy he.ll see his kid, but im upset that all off a sudden after vehemantly saying he wouldnt go all of a sudden he says he will. and lately hes been stuck txtn on his phone and its making me think hes lieing to me and really talking to her.. right now he doesnt understand that it bothers me if he goes. from the begnning of us getting together, the pictures, flirty conversations, the nude pics from her etc ive lost alot of trust in him and have slowly been getting it back thru our time together. so him going makesme uncomfortable, i feel like if he goes im going to lose trust in him because i already know how they are and act together. and i already know he wont really care what i think and feel cause once his minds set on something he.ll go thru with it regardless what i feel


so i already told him how i feel about him going, and he didnt say much. so i actually dont care anymore if he goes. either way due to how hes acted with her throught our time together im still going to lose trust and hurt when he goes. so i dont know what to do now. i trust him with what little trust i have left. but when someone hurts your trust its so hard to feel like you used to you kno.
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CoolGlassofH2O
replied on August 10th, 2008
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thanx to those who did reply.
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harmony1
replied on August 10th, 2008
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That's really unfair of him and her still flirting together. i tell ya if my bf was getting nude pics of his ex and my bf didn't tell her to stop this nonsence i would be out the door. What's worse is that he s flirting with her too. That's wrong.. His daughter should be coming to stay with you guys for a week not the other way around. Why don't you tell him you'll leave him if you guys don't go together.
I think your bf is being selfish in a way as he knows you know about the photos. so although he may not be into her he must realise that this is hurting you. So him going regardless is just wrong. you're supposed to be a team. Obviously his girlfriend is being a b**** and not letting her daughter come and see you guys and your bf is too weak to stand up to her. Remember he has every right to see his daughter. on paper if he goes to court. I just feel his daughter should come to see you or you guys go and visit there together. be firm on what you feel okay. you don't want to live a lifetime of him going away to see his kid and spend weeks with his ex and playing happy famiies. I really feel for you.
That's just my opinion so if you don't agree then that's okay.
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CoolGlassofH2O
replied on August 11th, 2008
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thats exactly what ive been thinking! lol i dont have a problem with his little girl. its her mother i have beef with. for the simple fact that she knows were together she kept doing it. its been 5 months, and after finding out she still loved him my boyfriend stopped the flirting completely. sometimes the games guys play disgust me : /

my guy appologized for having asked her for tit pics whe he was drunk and i forgave him. i wasnt about to let a naive lil girl like her try to ruin MY relationship just cause she cant get what she wants. at first i was so excited when my boyfriend said she was gonna send the lil girl over to stay with us. i even volunteered to take sometime off to take care of her. i was already planning activities, trips, etc. i see myself with him for a long time and i want to be a part of her life, i wanted her to know who i was. but then she started acting shady and it all went down hill after that. i trust him when he says he would never act upon it, he would ever go back with her. but knowing how they flirted in the past makes me angry and nervous when he says hes going to leave. ive aleady asked him if i can go and he says we cant afford to spend that kind of money...and we really cant right now. so im stuck feeling helpless.

but im going to make it real clear im nobodies fool, that i can forgive but not forget. that he has to atleast promise me he wont be there alone with her and the little girl, it may sound paranoid but i have my reasons.i know things are gonna be different when he gets back. im going to be wondering what happened out there. but right now i dont know what to feel...if hes gonna go or not. i know its going to happe sooner or later were he wants to go see his daughter. and i.ll try a few more times to tell him i want to go.
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harmony1
replied on August 11th, 2008
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Can't you push for her to be sent down to see you guys?
I think it was very unfair of your bf to ask his ex for those photos. I'm not so sure i could be so forgiving. I hope for your sake he is a faithful sort of guy. i guess you will know when he returns right. if he gets funny little msgs.
But having said all that I guess for now all you can do is put your faith in him and trust him. Sounds like you don't have any other choice. Sounds like you love him and he obviously doesn't have any other choice at this point in time with regards to seeing his daughter as he sounds quite weak to me. If it were me and i was a guy no woman would be able to stand in the way of me seeing my daughter. And she would definately come to see me and get to know me and my gf and learn what it's like to live at daddys house.
I just hope you know what you're doing. Sounds like a lot of heartache from your end.
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CoolGlassofH2O
replied on August 11th, 2008
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i am. hurting cause theres not that many women out there that would want to openly be a apart of a childs life thats not their own and deal with the drama. and i really wanted to be...but he doesnt see that. i dont like using ultimatums but things are going to change here at home. plus i kno before he leaves im gonna have to sit down and talk to him, to tell him exactly how p***** off, hurt, betrayed i feel. and i have pushed it and hes told her to send the little girl but shes always staling and making up excuses. she really wanted him to go pick her up, but then she changed her mind and didnt want to send her at all. thats when he volunteered to go and stay at his friends house out there and visit her.

i dont think i.d want to talk to him while hes out there. just to let whatever it is i tell him sink in. thank you for your suppot harmony, it really helps me think more clearly.
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CoolGlassofH2O
replied on August 11th, 2008
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well i had a very serious conversation with him today. i let him know that i wasnt alright with him being around his ex...the girl he asked for tit pics etc. i told him to me that was cheating. if he gets his pleasure from her pics. he shouldnt need them because he has me. he can ask me for those things you know?

i also told him i totally support him wanting to keep his relationship strong with his daughter. he said if she doesnt let him see his daughter hes calling the cops on her. but how dare he not give me the espect i deserve. especially with all the crap ive had to put up with throught the years. i told him to stop, cause after this if i find out hes still doing it, im not gonna brush it off again and im gonna take a very long break away from him. so after our conversation we didnt talk much, everyting quiet at home....
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harmony1
replied on August 11th, 2008
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I'm glad you're standing up for yourself. I didn't realise he was going to stay at a mates. I thought he was staying at her house which would just about kill you. Yeah you are very right, some gf wouldn't want to be a part of their bf childs life so he is very lucky!!! i'm glad your bf is considering going to the police. You're lives shouldn't be turned upside down because of this. You can still have a normal life. That woman is just a trouble maker.
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replied on August 11th, 2008
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And it should be done your way not his ex's way. Especially if you're planning to stay together for long run. How dare this woman. Honestly she is unbelievable. I used to fly alone as akid, no big drama, you get special care by the flight attendents, escorted everywhere.
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CoolGlassofH2O
replied on August 12th, 2008
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i remember flying alone too lol. if we do end up being together for a long time im going to insist that i go with him the next time he wants to go visit. he appologized to me for even thinking about asking her for things like that. he made a mistake and i took that to heart..because hes not the type to confess being wrong about anything.

she has always tried to interfeer even though he would always say she was happy for us. yea right lol no ex would ever be happy for the current girlfriend. lol and now i know thats true. she can be so immature sometimes, irresponcible too. she doesnt seem to put the child support money to good use. we never see my boyfriends daughter sporting anything new or stuff like that. plus she always seems to complain that it sucks being a single parent etc, im pretty sure it does suck but she was the one that wanted to keep the baby even though they were both young. she did ask my boyfriend for his oppinion and he had suggested what seemed right at the time..an abortion because they were both still livng wth parents. he was out of the military and heading home and im not sure if she finished high school. neither one had a stable job..plus there was really not that much love there, they were jus messing around while he was stationed out there. i guess she thought he would stay with her and sh would play the lil army wife.

plus the lil girl almot caught nemonia because she let her play outside in the rain without a coat on! she was hospitalized for a week! i was so mad at how irresponcible she is...and shes almot my age(im 24) id make a better mother than her...or at least a good stepmom. i hope one day the lil girl wants to come stay with us for a while, that way she sees that we do care about her so much as to open the doors of our home to her. and that her father wasnt the bad guy her mother makes him to be
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harmony1
replied on August 12th, 2008
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Sounds like you really would make a great step mum.. and mum... maybe once your bf ex realises that your bf has moved on and doesn't care for her anymore she'll start to move on. just give it a bit of time. I'd still push for visitation rights. Why don't you look into it for your bf and then fill him in on the procedure. Maybe he thinks he won't stand a chance when it sounds to me like you do. You're working, you have a roof over your head. I'm sure you's can get a sofa bed if you need to and most importantly you both have plenty of love to give to this little girl.
I hope things start to work out for you soon. Stay strong. Take care.
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