Oh, sorry to tell you this, but I have this problem occasionally after eating greasy foods, or drinking certain alcohol, sodas. I did alot of investigating and am pretty sure my condition is Sphinctor of Oddi. This is where the gallbladder duct spasms for some reason causing "gallbladder pain" without a gallbladder. I rarely have it now because I know what to avoid, but it is still a trial and error with some things. I would be doubled over in pain for hours until it eventually subsided.
Well I have researched a lot and everyone thought I was crazy becuz I finally got my gall bladder out, but a week after had same pain. Pain was in upper right side of abdomen and wrapped around my right side and into back under shoulder blade. I thought maybe I had gall stones in my bile duct, but all test, scans and x-rays showed nothing. Finally got a doctor that listened to me and he ran test after test until he found elevated liver enzymes which is a sign of sphincter of Oddi dysfunction. I was in the hospital 5 days which saved me becuz one day my liver enzymes were ok and next day really high. We live in a small west Texas town and at the second hospital I was at they could do ercp, but not manometic testing or fix it so I opted to be discharged and go to Baylor Medical in Dallas, tx where they could do everything. Was just released today after having the the ercp, manometric testing and they cut the muscle becuz the pressure was not good. Think this was the problem all along not my gall bladder. Hope this might help someone not go through everything that I have for so many years.
Did Dr. Paul Tarnasky do your procedure? I live close to Dallas and I think I have this. I was thinking about going to him, but some of his reviews aren't good. DId you like him? What stage were you diagnosed with-- I, iI, or III?
I like you have this same problem I do not have it for a long period of time after or sometimes during i feel like the food is almost traveling down my spine. It is very painful and i feel like i almost have to stretch my back out in order to help the pain! I have looked everywhere for answers but have never had any help. I noticed though that when i have heavy food like carbs i get it alot more frequently! Anyone having this issue or have any answers for me?
I have the same problem likes ur exactly ohhh my god and sometimes it wakes me up from sleeping in the night .I feel like cramps in my upper baack and like food is going every where in my body .I went to the doctor twice .He put camera in my stomach to see 2 times and he scan my stomach and didnt find anything .I dunno wot to do .please some one help me .I am 35 years old i got it since 2 years .
Thank you for your comments, I feel so relieved to know that I am not alone! I have had people laughing at me thinking, how by eating could this sort of pain ever occur!
My pain is particularly evident after eating roughage, like potato, nuts and seeds.
I feel like i've been punched in the small of my back, just below my shoulder blades and it takes quite a while to subside.
Well if anyone knows a cure please let me know, or is it just a case of avoidance? (
These back pains happens to me every time there is sudden change on my eating habits.
1. After a long day of starvation and immediately after that I take too much food.
2. Long period of consistent eating. (like occasion and parties, 2-4 hours of small amount feeding)
3. After a fast, I ate too much.
Today I have these pain but I know the cause. (Increase in food intake because I'd like to gain weight recently.)
Usually these pains last 3-10days. Once I normalize my feeding habit, everything will be back to normal.
Im a male 31yrs, 135lbs, perfectly normal.
this symptoms I have and I relate them to acid stomach: I am 46, 210lbs, dont eat pork not beef the last 20 years. Stress is part of my life.
acid reflux now since years.
I took iron which causes my colon to be less hard and also seems to reduce the acid in my stomach.
The back pain I get when I drink soda with a lot of sweet, sweet stuff in general, coffee - as I believe all related to the back pain -> sweetness produces acid (to break down the aminos I guess). to much acid goes into the blood stream whcih MAYBE has an effect on the back....the pain is between my shoulders and it is sometimes so painful that it becomes harder to breath and to concentrate.
The pain you all describe sounds like some form of pancreatitis, the pancreas can become inflamed when you eat greasy food with high fat content, because the digestive enzymes can become active inside the pancreas rather than outside, and cause damage to pancreatic tissue, causing pain.
The pancreas lies behind the stomach close to the back, this is why you may feel pain in the back, i'm not saying that you have pancreatitis but its a possiblity, I have similar symptoms and my doctors believes its pancreatitis, I am not a smoker nor drinker so its not acohol related.
back pain after eating (or chest pain after eating)
Try enzymes and/or alpha lipoic acid. Antacids might provide temporary relief, but at the same time, might also be making the problem worse, because often, the problem stems from too little stomach acid--not too much.
A few years ago I got to the point where I could not even swallow a sip of water without the pain. My naturopath doctor had me take two Metagest tablets 20 minutes before eating. It worked wonders. After about a year I needed to switch to a different enzyme (that I took AFTER meals) which worked great. (I had also been taking homeopathic remedies for about a year and watching my diet carefully). Then I discovered that taking Alpha Lipoic Acid twice a day replaced the need to pull out my enzymes in the middle of a social event every time I put food in my mouth.
Since I have been feeling increasingly better over the past few years, my diet has become more sloppy and I'm starting to have minor problems again. The enzymes still work, but I find myself changing them around or adding more, whereas before, I felt zero discomfort.
The way to stop this is to bite the bullet and go on a detox diet again--then keep myself away from processed and the offending foods (probably coffee for me--or the high fructose corn syrup crap I put in it). Or perhaps I've unknowingly been ingesting gluten (the cause of all my pain-after-eating problems) by neglecting careful scrutnity when ordering in restaurants.
If you are really experiencing a lot of discomfort, try drinking a rice protein drink with whey in conjunction with a strict detox diet. My favorite for the way it makes me feel (instant relief) and the not-as-horrible-as-most flavor of the whey is a brand called Biotics. I have not succeeded on any other detox diet because they usually make me feel horrible.
One more thing to consider is a food allergy or intolerence. If your body does not like a certain food (such as wheat or dairy) it causes chronic, systemic inflammation throughout your body. If this is the case and you find and eliminate the offending food(s) you'll be amazed at how many seemingly unrelated health problems disappear (joint pain, rosacia, repetitive muscle or ligament problems), as well as prevent or turn back the clock on the classics--diabetes, heart disease, cancer.
Middle back pain, upper right abdominal pain after eating
Hi, i know it has been some time but i did want to reply. I too have suffered from these pains, so bad so i am on Pethidine for the pain as i get bad bouts of pain all day. i had my gall bladder removed April 2011, and still feel pain, now After MRI/MRCP scans, ultrasounds, endoscopy and an endoscopic ultra sound they found....nothing much to go on. BUT this is because the actual problem may not show up when in relation to the sphincter of Oddi. There is a condition where the sphincter of oddi has excessive amounts of inflammation and causes a narrowing in the 'pipe' causing a blockage, therefore, its like having your gall stones/grit back. The bile cant pass through the Sphincter and this causes the bile to 'flow back on itself'. This can cause reflux problems in the stomach and digestive problems.
It is thought that around 40% of people have problems after having the gall bladder removed, and in 20% of people it is due to the inflammation in the sphincter of oddi.
Inflammation will not show up in blood tests (i am unsure why) this is one of the reasons it is hard to diagnose. When they do endoscopic procedures where they can get a better look, you will have to fast for so many hours before, many people experience the problem when eating so this may also be one of the reasons why diagnosis is hard.
I have done lots of research on the topic, have had pretty much every test going and am going to be referred to a specialist in London. Just thought i would let everyone know as i know how frustrating it is, going to see a doctor and they look at you like your mad when your test results are ok.
Also people who have problems with the sphincter of Oddi can have reoccuring acute pancreatic and appendix flare up, diet is a contributing factor and so is exercise, but sometimes it gets to a point where it needs to be 'fixed' before you can feel relief. It can take upto 2 operations to fix as its a risk keeping the bile from getting into the body.
hope it helps.
I had the Sphincter of Oddi surgery. It wasn't a bad surgery. I did have relief from this terrible back pain after eating BUT now it is back with avengence. I get these terrible pains in the middle of my back and it often gets hard to breath. I haven't be able to figure out what triggers it but it seems like everything I eat or drink can cause it. Like others have posted, Sphincter of Oddi Dysfunction is very hard to diagnosis. I was a person that all the tests came back ok but yet I still had all the classic symptoms of the dysfunction. I had the procedure done at the end of January. I had the stents removed three weeks later. I did have complications with bacteria backing up into my liver that caused a high fever but had several months of relief. Now the pain is back. Does anyone know if the Sphincter of Oddi surgery can be unsuccessful after stents have been removed?
I feel your pain. About 8 years ago I experienced too many SOD attacks to count! I ended up in ER and hospitalized often. My family practice doctor ended up tearing a page out of some medical book about SOD - a few paragraphs about a controversial dysfunction and it's treatment. If I remember correctly there were 3 stages and I was in the stage 1 and candidate for the stent. Over two years I had surgery 4 times. The first three they dilated and put in the stent- the last one they dilated and completely opened. I occasionally have what I would consider uncomfortable pain starting in my back- I take hyomax for the spasms and it has helped me get through without pain meds, er visits. I was told that i may develop scar tissue that may need to be removed at some point if pain once again rules my life. I seem to be in the beginning of some uncomfortable days ahead- I try to eat light- drink lots of water. I wish you well. Be patient- the journey can be long.
I want to thank everyone on this site, what a relief to know that other people suffer such back pain after eating! I have been suffering for about 5 months now, it is much worse after coffee or chocolate (have cut them out now). I had an MRI scan which showed no gallstones, which is good in a way but doesn't help answering why I am in such pain!? I have had reflux probs in the past & take PPI each day. I am so confused and fed up with this, like other people it almost takes my breath away it hurts so much, especially at night.