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Q: metastatic colon cancer treatment
asked by: bluects on April 7th, 2008
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My husband had a resection of his sigmoid colon in nov 05 with a large met to his liver. Treatment with chemo went well for 2 years, but now the tumors are growing quickly-large tumors in both lobes of the liver and mets to lymph nodes and 5 small tumors in his lungs. He has had 2 theresphere treatments and is now on erbitux. He was holding alot of fluid in his ankles and stomach. My question is after additional lasik medicine his swelling has gone down, but he has lost 19 pounds in one week. This sounds like too much for one week. Any thoughts?
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MandMs
replied on April 10th, 2008
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Hi and welcome to ehealthforum!
Severe malnutrition and wasting are considered hallmarks of advanced malignant disease. Having a cancer can deplete body’s nutrients, cause negative effect on patient's appetite and on the ability to digest foods.
What type of nutrition he is taking?
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bluects
replied on April 10th, 2008
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Thanks for the reply
My husband's appetite has been good most of the time until these past few weeks. I feel he was drinking and eating the well. His doctors recommended several small and light meals a day. Since he likes chocolate, I buy him the chocolate flavored Boost and Ensure drinks. He also likes the DanActive drinkable yogurt products. The last few weeks he has not wanted to eat or drink much. Early Monday morning (chemo day) he had a Nutra-grain bar and some cranberry juice, but threw it up before treatment started. I tried to see if he would eat a couple of saltine crackers or soup later, but he did not eat again until 5:30pm. ( a few bites of crackers and a little soup) He is taking 40mgs of morphine twice a day for pain. I just hate for him to have an empty stomach with all the medications. We called his doctor today and he is going to give him some fluids tomorrow so I hope it helps keep him hydrated. Thank you for your reply.
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MandMs
replied on April 11th, 2008
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You are welcome!
Most people don't have signs and symptoms in the early stages of liver cancer. Symptoms do appear, when it's quite advanced and usually include loss of appetite and weight, abdominal swelling (ascites)and nausea and vomiting.
Approximately 80% of patients with advanced-stage cancer have cancer anorexia-cachexia syndrome, in which one of the main manifestations is malnutrition. CACS is characterised by anorexia, decreased food intake, tissue wasting, and body weight loss. It is also associated with changes in lipid, protein, and carbohydrate metabolism, leading to a decrease in fat and muscle mass, which independently influence mortality in cancer patients.

Three major things may contribute for noticeable loss of weight:
-Chemotherapy has destroyed the lining of a person's digestive tract and nutrients are not absorbed by the body,
-The person simply cannot physically eat very much for a variety of reasons,
-Cancer cells steal nutrition from the normal cells.
Alternative treatments for this situation may involve a cesium chloride I.V. or a high dosage vitamin C I.V. Other treatments would be Hydrogen Peroxide (I.V.), HBOT and ozone treatments.
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1yearlater
replied on July 14th, 2008
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I will start with my history and then ask my question(s)

I am a 39 year old male who one year ago was diagnosed with metastatic colon cancer. I had 4 tumors in my liver. I started FOLFOX shortly after diagnosis, had 4 treatments and then had surgery. They removed about a foot of colon, about 40% of my liver and inserted a hepatic pump. I resumed chemo about 5 or 6 weeks after surgery. FUDR to the liver once a month and FOLFOX systemically twice a month. Due to neuropathy they stopped the oxaliplatic and due to side effects they reduced the FUDR and other meds from the FOLOFOX regimen. One tumor that remained after surgery which had been shrinking started growing when all the meds were reduced. I had ablation of the tumor and was started on Vectibix and Irinotecan about a month ago. I have not lost any weight yet and my apetite and energy are still fairly high. I continue to work 7 out of 10 days (the other three I work from home while on chemo).

My diet has changed a bit, more salads, flax and yogurt every morning.

Now my question...MandMs - you mention CsCl (cesium chloride), H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide), and other items in your message from April. Why would you suggest these items now as opposed to earlier in bluects' husband's treatment? Are you suggesting them to help with the side effects of the chemo or are you suggesting them to potentially assist in his treatment?

I ask because I am coming to a crossroads right now. I would like to try an alternative treatment in the hopes of stopping this disease before it progresses beyond the point of no return. CsCl and H2O2 are two of the items I have been considering.

Please let me know your thoughts.
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