yes its fine..its normal, everyone starts at a different age..have fun

what do you think about this do you have any opinion that is a concern.

thesorrow16, if you ask me to answer your question in one sentence this is how it will read: "Masturbation is yet to be proven as maedically harmful but morally it is a disgusting act".

how is it morally disgusting? you are taking care of your own urges...something thats morally disgusting is men who sleep around with MANY women and fullfill those urges that way...

if youhave an urge of your own to kill someone does that make it right. Our sexual organs & abilities were created & intended for the sole purpose of reproduction which involves a pleasureable sensation which is to encourage the involvement of sex, not to allow our uncontrollable urges to take over thats what we have a brain & a concience for.Does the urge of a paedophile & there actions against their victims make it right because it is an urge!Please, any sin in Gods eyes are all equal & because we are all sinners regardless how good we think we are not one of us is any better than the other, some people are just fortunate to be able to not allow themselves to be tempted by the sins that present to them. Those who are more fortunate should be helping those who are less fortunate to turn from wrong not push them deeper into it.

worrywart01, I am not sure if you have read my post titled "Never To Masturbate Again" in "Sexual Health Men" forum and "Never Masturbating Again" in "Men's Conditions" forum. If you read that you will get answer for "how is it morally disgusting?" Initially, I tried to take a polite approach to convince people on this issue but it seems we don't/don't want to understand something uless the truth is smashed on our face.

timeisshort, nice reply!!!

UHG.
Sex organs are much more than just pleasurable sensations...that is unless you urinate from your nose.
If sex were only intended for reproduction God wouldn't have made the female body eventually stop producing eggs to be fertilized. (menopause for those of you that need to look that up) Every time you have sex with your wife and aren't doing it to get her pregnant, your sinning. **Cue lightning**

Seriously, the "sins" you use as an example are atrocities against others. Masturbation is a solo act and cannot even be compared to crimes against others. The urge to kill or rape is an urge against someone else. Unless your penis or vagina is a separate entity from you, masturbation is not harming anyone else.

As far as the morale delima... I totally get it... filthy masturbators should be out hijacking airplanes and running them into large buildings so they can get to heaven and get their virgins in the name of god. Or does it not count as the name of god if they call him alah? BAH. (yes, thats sarcasm BTW)

Bible also says don't judge. I have yet to see a nonjudgemental bible thumper. A perfect example: "because we are all sinners regardless how good we think we are not one of us is any better than the other, some people are just fortunate to be able to not allow themselves to be tempted by the sins that present to them. Those who are more fortunate should be helping those who are less fortunate to turn from the wrong not push them deeper into it." translations IMO... See the phony smile I have for you while I tell you that I am no better than you but I have a club you can join that will make you think you are as you tell people you arent. I am trying to brainwash you into believing and thinking the same way I do then you can become a member of my club and be as secretly self absorbed as me while you tell people your not.

No wonder so many people are messed up about sex. Their body tells them one thing and their christian mothers and fathers tell them they are going to burn in hell for what god made their bodies do and feel naturally. Masturbation is not going to burn your palms or catch your penis on fire. It's perfectly natural and the urges start at varying ages. It is not harmful physically. It can actually be beneficial.

WOW...are you kidding??? you are bringing up something as serious as homicide and comparing it to masterbation?! ...umm...ok..thats a VERY strange comparison..homicide impacts another life..masterbation is something you do on your own..it doesn't affect anyone but yourself...sooo..i really really dont understand how you are comparing taking the life of another to whacking off also with bringing up the pedophiles..you are again dragging another person into this..i do not agree with harming another person..no..thats not what this is even about your comparisons make NO SENSE...at all!!! so far you have made absolutely NO case as to WHY masterbation is wrong...it is normal...and actually I disagree with why our sexual organs were made..the ONLY other animals I can think of that have sex for pleasure off the top of my head are a)dolphins and b)chimps...now...how many other animals are there out in the world?? and do THEY have problems reproducing...no..so your claim that sex was made enjoyable ONLY so that we will reproduce is false bc there are MANY other animals in the world who do not get pleasure from sex yet continue to reproduce bc its an instinct...our sexual organs are a gift..the fact that we get pleasure from this act is a gift that we can choose to share with ourselves(masterbation) or with another partner such as your husband/wife..its a way for partners to connect on a physical level and enjoy each other...masterbation is not a bad thing..how is your partner supposed to please you if you dont even know what YOU like so that you can tell him/her to do this! masterbation is self discovery...all of your claims are weak and really do not make any sense at all...comparing masterbation to homicide really?

Jinjer, One of the paragraphs of you reply reads "As far as the morale delima... I totally get it... filthy masturbators should be out hijacking airplanes and running them into large buildings so they can get to heaven and get their virgins in the name of god. Or does it not count as the name of god if they call him alah? BAH. (yes, thats sarcasm BTW)"

First of all, the word is NOT 'alah', it is Allah. Second, you are asking "does it not count as the name of god if they call him alah?". Did you know even Jesus also used the same word "Allah" at some point of his life. Reflect on the following verse of the Bible: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matthew 27:46).

Also see: "And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Mark 15:34).

Do you know Arabic and Hebrew are sister languages? More importantly, do you know if you translate the Hebrew verse "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani" into Arabic what it becomes? It becomes "Allah, Allah, Lima Tarakthani". Does that not sound similar? Yes, they sound similar because Arabic and Hebrew are sister languages. Well, you may not be believing me but go and ask someone expert in Hebrew and Arabic and I guess he will give you more or less the same answer. Still if you are not convinced, do you know what term the Arab Christians use when they refer to "God"? They use the word "Allah". Are you surprised? I am not joking, they really do that.

So there are 3 things you need to understand:

1. Allah is NOT a Muslim GOD (it is simply the Arabic name for God) neither God is a Christian Allah (It is rather an English translation of the Arabic name for God or it is the English name for Allah). God/Allah is the same God/Allah for everyone irrespective of whether you are a Muslim/Christian/Jew.


2. Christians use the term God because they read the Bible in English and Muslims use the term Allah because they read the Quran in Arabic. If the Christians read the Bible in Hebrew they probably might have used the term Jehovah or Allah and if the muslims read the Quran in English they would have probably used the term God.

3. Whether you call Him Allah/God/Jehovah....? He is not going to mind as long as it's not a bad name. He is going to judge you based on your deeds more than by what name you call him.

Now I also have something to say about the paragraph that I quoted above, especially the portion that reads ""As far as the morale delima... I totally get it... filthy masturbators should be out hijacking airplanes and running them into large buildings so they can get to heaven and get their virgins in the name of god." But I really don't understand what you are saying here. Who are the filthy masturbators and people that run aeroplanes into buildings to go to heaven? Could you please clarify? It is very ambiguous. Take care and God bless you.

uhoh...my fingers should be broke for missing an l on the keyboard.




That was my point. At the end of the day, no matter what you call him it's the same god. I really didn't need a lesson thanks. I am not surprised at all by any of your reply. I missed an l on the keyboard and you missed sarcasm. I already knew what I was talking about. Having said that though, I see and hear it all the time where different religious affiliations or christians will try and make the names sound unrelated when one of them start a war or kill in the name of allah or god or jehovah.



that whole paragraph was slathered in sarcasm. I was referring to what a martyr will do in the name of god and one reason behind it. As in...instead of sinning in masturbation go out and kill a few thousand people and yourself in the process and when you get to heaven your reward for your martyrdom will include a harem of virgins. I don't need the lecture about misinterpretations either. This is a general belief of many even if its not truly accurate in its interpretation.

First of all, I would like to make a sincere apology to you. I am deeply sorry if I was overly aggressive with you. You made a small mistake of typing and I made a BIG error of judgment. You say, "uhoh...my fingers should be broke for missing an l on the keyboard." No, I did not mean that. I don't have any intention of breaking your finger for such a small mistake, we all make them. Unfortunately, I made an error of thinking you were a blind faith person (By blind faith I am trying to indicate people who dislike people of other faith for no good reason).

Unfortunately, sometimes when I feel I am on the right track, I make an error of judgment. I just somehow got a feeling you are simply one of those people who are blindly attached to their own faith but dislike people of other religion for no good reason when I was reading your reply to timeisshort. That is the only reason why I provided a clarification regarding God/Allah. But then again in your last reply you clarified that you were actually trying to speak the same things that I said in my reply and I trust you now. I think you have unfortunately judged me only in negative manner. If you read my previous reply carefully, what impression does it give you? Does it indicate you that it would increase the rather unfortunate rivalry among the 3 Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam)? Of course not. I was actually trying to bring people of these religions closer rather than push them further even though you also intended do something similar and I misjudged you. My error of judgment was my mistake and I am only a human being and not an angel.

As far as the paragraph "As far as the morale delima... I totally get it... filthy masturbators should be out hijacking airplanes and running them into large buildings so they can get to heaven and get their virgins in the name of god. Or does it not count as the name of god if they call him alah? BAH. (yes, thats sarcasm BTW)." is concerned, I think you should be a little careful when you talk about these issues even if you tell it in sarcasm. It can raise a lot of debate and controversies. But then I again I believe your intentions were honest.

I hope I have been able to clear things up. God bless you.

who is it here that elected them selves as judge & juror,we are all sinners and not one of us has the sinnless right to judge the other but ultimately judgement will be passed on everyone of us & only we will be responsible for what we do. for those who have a hang up on this subject it's time to get a hobby or do something good for someone instead of us critisising one & other for our choices or trying to help make a change for the good of someone else.

i'm really confused here...since when did the topic go from masterbation to God....

also: to timeisshort...your above post says "who is it here that elected themselves as judge and juror we are all sinners...."....i believe it was you who was preaching that masterbation was wrong in the first place...in Gods eyes all sins are equal...we are all sinners..now i'm off to sin with my vibrator

omigosh....LOL!

i was kidding

Just my personal experience...

1) Can cause premature ejaculation with sex partner due to repeated practice of rapid climax during masturbation.

2) Loss of natural wet dream experience.

3) Weakening of penis structure through loss of intensity and frequency of spontaneous erections especially during REM sleep.

4) Loss of emotional sexual edge that is biologically detected by potential mates.

5) loss of or continual satisfaction of sex drive causes complacency in exercise, diet, grooming, and other personal mate attracting aspects of self improvement.

6) Depletion of testosterone in system.

7) Loss of self esteem.

Can promote an unhealthy interest in pornography which is also physiologically damaging to the psyche.

I hope this helps someone.

whether you believe in God or not God bless you!

what you do is your problem not anyone else's, look at where you have put your post & you will see that at the top of the page we have a fine young man looking for some guidance maybe we all should be thinking of him!