I am a 16 year old boy that masturbates
atleast 2 times a day per week and I would
like to say that I am a Christian but I
would be lying, because to be a Christian
is to be "Christ Like". Now Im not
interested in comments of perverts and
whoremongers here because they will all
have their part in the lake of
fire(Revelation 21:; but rather I would
like Christians to respond, and if you
think your'e Christian but believe
masterbation is okay you are not a
Christian.
I know that the Bible condemns
masterbation and I read the Bible
frequently, and know a lot, but I am one
of those kinds of people who worships God
with my lips but my heart heart is far
from him (see Isaiah 29:13 and James
1:23-24). Jesus condemened the lust in ur
mind, and called it adultrey which breaks
the 7th commandement and if you break 1
commandement you are guilty of all
according to the Bible (see James 2:12).
Not to mention that the Bible condemns
masterbation if u read here;
2 Timothy 2:22 "Flee also youthful lusts:
but follow righteousness, faith, charity,
peace, with them that call on the Lord out
of a pure heart."
Romans 13:14 "But put ye on the Lord Jesus
Christ, and make not provision for the
flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof."
Romans 6:12 "Let not sin therefore reign
in your mortal body, that ye should obey
it in the lusts thereof."
God is always right and if you aren't a
believer in Christ consider this of your
experiences with sin;
Proverbs 27:20 "Hell and destruction are
never full; so the eyes of man are never
satisfied."
How do I quit? its a filthy habit. The
love of sin is the problem, how do i stop
it?
thanks for reading.
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lele25
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Posted: 03-18-08 21:16pm
Masturbation is not a sin. It is
completely 100% natural and safe. By the
way...don't forget that the scriptures in
the Bible were edited, revised, cut,
pasted, and who knows what else, in order
to suite the needs of the (not so holy
men) at the time it was written. I'm sure
I'll get a lot of back-lash for that.....
Anyways, you have nothing to worry about
and there is no reason on earth, or in the
bible, as to why you should quit.
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musicdiva1331
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Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Posts: 21 Location: ,
Posted: 03-18-08 23:06pm
ummmm you're wrong. end of story. notice
in the bible it also says "all have sinned
and fallen short of the glory of God" and
that all sin is forgivable. And the only
requirement to be a Christian is to
believe in Christ. Because a Christian is
a follower of Christ, not a perfect
person. God knows everyone has sinned and
knows that we will all continue to sin.
Jesus is the ONLY person who has or ever
will live without sin.
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antigone
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Posted: 03-18-08 23:17pm
So, what is your point? You believe you
are sinning by masturbating. You need to
go to see a priest for confession and
absolution.
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MikeH90
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Posted: 03-19-08 11:29am
just because some book tells you not to do
something you do it? Are you a sheep? Who
cares what some old fart wrote, doesn't
make it true. Do you believe everything
you read?
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Georgia59
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Posted: 03-19-08 16:40pm
It's totally your personal decision.
It's also in the bible that men can have
multiple wives, slaves, etc. You have to
decide what you really believe.
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marvel
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Posted: 03-19-08 16:56pm
A pure mind would be a mind that is
confident enough to know the difference
between right and wrong regardless of the
many contradictions, exaggerations,
historical falsities found within an
archaic book.
If you find that masturbation is wrong,
that's fantastic... as long as you
yourself can back it up without A) judging
or hurting others or B) relying on other
people to tell you so (In my opinion,
that's not mental or spiritual purity).
If you think it's right, that's also
fantastic... again, as long as you don't
judge or hurt others or do it just because
someone told you so.
Be strong in your convictions. My advice
would be to not judge others for theirs,
though.
Me, personally, I'm ok with masturbation.
It's healthy, it doesn't hurt anyone and
it's enjoyable. Where's the amorality in
that?
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homerx
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Posted: 03-20-08 17:12pm
musicdiva1331
wrote:
ummmm you're wrong. end of
story. notice in the bible it also says
"all have sinned and fallen short of the
glory of God" and that all sin is
forgivable. And the only requirement to be
a Christian is to believe in Christ.
Because a Christian is a follower of
Christ, not a perfect person. God knows
everyone has sinned and knows that we will
all continue to sin. Jesus is the ONLY
person who has or ever will live without
sin.
and Jesus didn't judge or damn people, he
LOVED people..even those who
masturbated...so don't worry about it.
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MiseEire
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Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 170
Re: Masterbation IS A SIN? Posted: 03-21-08 07:48am
Dijon
wrote:
I am a 16 year old boy that
masturbates atleast 2 times a day per week
and I would like to say that I am a
Christian but I would be lying, because to
be a Christian is to be "Christ Like". Now
Im not interested in comments of perverts
and whoremongers here because they will
all have their part in the lake of
fire(Revelation 21:; but rather I would
like Christians to respond, and if you
think your'e Christian but believe
masterbation is okay you are not a
Christian.
I know that the Bible condemns
masterbation and I read the Bible
frequently, and know a lot, but I am one
of those kinds of people who worships God
with my lips but my heart heart is far
from him (see Isaiah 29:13 and James
1:23-24). Jesus condemened the lust in ur
mind, and called it adultrey which breaks
the 7th commandement and if you break 1
commandement you are guilty of all
according to the Bible (see James 2:12).
Not to mention that the Bible condemns
masterbation if u read here;
2 Timothy 2:22 "Flee also youthful lusts:
but follow righteousness, faith, charity,
peace, with them that call on the Lord out
of a pure heart."
Romans 13:14 "But put ye on the Lord Jesus
Christ, and make not provision for the
flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof."
Romans 6:12 "Let not sin therefore reign
in your mortal body, that ye should obey
it in the lusts thereof."
God is always right and if you aren't a
believer in Christ consider this of your
experiences with sin;
Proverbs 27:20 "Hell and destruction are
never full; so the eyes of man are never
satisfied."
How do I quit? its a filthy habit. The
love of sin is the problem, how do i stop
it?
thanks for
reading.
Denouncement of masturbation isn't a
pre-requisite to being a Christian. I was
baptised a Catholic (though I am now
atheist) and no longer does the mainstream
Catholic front even denounce masturbation
as sin. Only the creationist-believing
backwards churches still label normal
bodily functions as sin.
Every quote from the bible you have cited
is open to interpretation and none of them
directly reference masturbation. So it's
up to you. You can either (a) Interpret
the bible negatively, as so many so-called
Christ followers do, and struggle with
this dilemma that won't go away until
you're one day impotent or (b) Realise
that there is nothing sinful about normal
bodily functions.
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texascowboy1979
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 28 Location: , Texas
Posted: 03-21-08 22:44pm
lele25
wrote:
don't forget that the
scriptures in the Bible were edited,
revised, cut, pasted, and who knows what
else, in order to suite the needs of the
(not so holy men) at the time it was
written.
I belive in GOD, and in regards to the
Bible, I belive its the word of MEN at the
time to suite their views and Ideas of
GOD.
If a hard core raciest would have written
the bible, who knows what it would have
said, You can not take what you read
lightly. Every that you read is the ideas
and views of the men who wrote it. Never
forget that… don’t close your mind,
close your eyes and open your mind
instead.
If the US president and US House of Reps
used Drugs and beilived it was ok, they
would use the law to their advantage and
change the law to fit their needs...
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exodia69
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 33
Posted: 03-26-08 11:07am
its only a sin if you want it to be, be to
be truthful... i think that in this day
and age guys need to slow down big time,
like once every week, should be a good
goal, i was at a time in my life a year
ago where i masturbated 5 to 6 times daily
for a month straight... i was extremely
depressed and the only that kept me from
being bored was alot of pornography and
just sitting around masturbating, i still
cant hit once a week but at lease im at
twice daily now.
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texascowboy1979
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 28 Location: , Texas
Posted: 03-26-08 11:23am
well, I used to be 3 times a day, now i
have been able to get to once a day... I
dont think I can pass that.
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DDRob3107
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 17 Location: XOH, US o' A
Posted: 04-16-08 11:01am
Okay, if the bible said it's a sin, then
they need to say "...and God killed all
the masturbaters..." People interpret the
words in the bible as something they're
not. If it was sooooo bad, then why don't
priests say at the end of mass or whatever
it's called in Christinaity, "...and
remember, don't masturbate. It's a sin!"
They need to be more direct on it or just
leave the subject alone.
Besides I'm sure those priests go in the
back room and jack off after each sermon.
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PenguinsRus
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Posted: 04-16-08 11:43am
Mod(s), maybe this topic should be moved
to the debate forum.
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texascowboy1979
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 28 Location: , Texas
Diddo... Posted: 04-16-08 11:59am
This is supposed to be a support, health,
and help forum, not a preaching forum for
right and wrong...
Its gone off topic.
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Mikolas
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Posted: 04-16-08 17:12pm
Moved to debate forum as requested.
Silly topic from the start.
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homerx
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Posted: 04-16-08 17:19pm
amen
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Georgia59
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Posted: 04-16-08 18:24pm
Yes, it's a sin!! And you'll go blind!!!
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homerx
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Posted: 04-16-08 18:45pm
that
explains it...where did every one go?
Its SO dark...
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Georgia59
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Posted: 04-16-08 18:47pm
lol
I'm starting to see some stubble on my
palm...should I be concerned?
; but rather I would
like Christians to respond, and if you
think your'e Christian but believe
masterbation is okay you are not a
Christian.
