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Q: LVI neuromuscular dentist
asked by: caseydurgs on July 4th, 2008
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I have been suffering form severe TMJ/TMD issues for over 12 years after a car accident. I have seen 4 different specialists and have had over 7 different TMJ splints that have only made my pain worse. I go to Pysical therapy weekly and have tried accupunture, chiropractic care, message, pain clinics and so on............ Nothing helps and my pain and it is getting worse from day to day activity. Not only does my jay hurt constantly, but I also have such back neck problems, disk issues and back pain. My quality of life is dramatically affected. I have just recently seen a neuromusclular dentist who is LVI trained (LAs Vegas Institute). They seem to think they can get my jaw in balence with an orthotic and it will help all my other symtoms. The cost for Phase one is $4,225, not covered by insurance. Has anyone been treated by an LVI doctor? Is it a scam?
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TMJWorld
replied on July 5th, 2008
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ive been treated succesfully with a neuromuscular dentist--this is no scam. Its a little expensive--but so worth it. you will not regret doing this. any questions dont hesitate to ask. LVI is world renound and i will only recommend dentists that have been trained there.

you should also see a chiropractor
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scrappinmom
replied on July 6th, 2008
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what does a neuromuscular dentist do?
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TMJWorld
replied on July 6th, 2008
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a neuromuscular dentists realigns the bite in the proper place in conjunction with the muscles. THis is important--if you simply aligne the bite the muscles fight it and cause more problems
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NMDGRP
replied on August 18th, 2008
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"Neuromuscular Dentsitry" is a MARKETING TERM ONLY
If your dentist is advertising and/or claiming to be a Neuromuscular Dentist, please be advised that such terminology is for marketing purposes only. The ADA does not recognize any such dental specialty. If in fact your dentist claims to be a "graduate" and or have been to a school and trained in NMD I respectfully ask you to relay that information to the ADA and your state dental board. They would be interested in hearing about any NMD claims and or marketing material that lead you to believe the dentist is operating beyond the scope of a general dentist. In reality, many dentists attend Continuing Education Seminars wherein NMD is a featured seminar topic/subject. Many well regarded dental professionals express the opinion that NMD is based on unfounded science and is merely a means to increase dental practice profits. I hope this entry is useful and saves you the pain, heartache and financial loss endured by US, Canadian and Australian "NMD patients" who have been sold "NMD treatments" by "NMD dentists" claiming to be "graduates" of a dental school in a nonexistent dental speciality. PS - Note to "TMDDYAN" Your statement "LVI will only recommend dentists that have been trained there" is FALSE. LVI is not a dental school and it does not recommend dentists on it's website. Dentists that advertise on the LVI website pay a fee to LVI to advertise on that businesses website.
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TMJWorld
replied on August 18th, 2008
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that is not true----nmd is not a marketing term and lvi is a very real place--and no they do pay to be on that site but lvi checks it---all the people there are graduates of lvi---I work with lvi in what i do. you have to be careful with people that claim to be nmd and that arnt ive seen that before. I think that you need to check your resourses.
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TMJWorld
replied on August 18th, 2008
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oh and no that statement isnt false---that they recomend only dentist that have been trained there--its very true
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tmjpain
replied on August 18th, 2008
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I have been followed by a neuromuscular dentist and still am not having great results as far as decreasing the pain in the headaches I have. But I am still trying hard to get some results and hoping for success every day. I am open to hearing if anyone else has other options I can try.
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TMJWorld
replied on August 18th, 2008
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nmd is not for every one--there are other options i have sent you a pm. just because nmd isnt for evey one doesnt mean that its not real
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tmjpain
replied on August 18th, 2008
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Don't get me wrong. I am not saying that NMD is not real I believe in it. That is the orthodontist that has gotten me this far. It's just at this point I need some other options to try so I don't have this pain 24/7 if you know what I mean.
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NMDGRP
replied on August 18th, 2008
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Disclamer from the LVISmile.com website
TMDDYAN, In response to your false statement regarding LVI "recommendations" Perhaps you would like to review the Disclaimer located on the LVISmile.com website. It is as follows:

LVI makes no warranties or representations regarding any services provided by any professionals located through this site and is not responsible for the actions of its graduates or the treatment they provide in their private practices The names of graduates are not listed according to their levels of experience, competency, expertise, or qualifications, and LVI does not purport to make any representations regarding the level of experience, competency, expertise, or qualifications of the graduates listed herein.

However, LVI fails to disclose to consumers that dentist PAY to advertise on LVISMILE.COM. Equally important, consumers need to be aware that LVI is NOT a SCHOOL. Consumers need to be aware that dentists that have attended seminars at LVI pay for the right to advertise as "LVI Graduate" "LVI trained" "LVI Preferred" etc.. Each LVI designation SOLD to dentists reflects various dollar amounts PAID. There is not one LVI designation that reflects competency in dentistry.

Any dentist claiming to be a "Graduate" in NMD from LVI and does NOT in turn disclose to the patient that LVI sells continuing education seminars and is NOT a School is deceiving the patient. January 1, 2007, the State of Colorado was concerned enough with dentist advertising as "LVI Graduates" the State instituted a law making it a violation for Colorado dentists to advertise as an "LVI Graduate" and NOT include the fact that LVI is NOT an accredited institution.

I hope this entry helps highlight the danger patients face when they put their trust in a Dentist advertising as a "Neuromuscular Dentist." There is no such dental specialty. It is a Marketing term used to sell dental treatments.
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TMJWorld
replied on August 18th, 2008
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no that post was addressed to someone else --as for you --you need to give yourself time to heal as well--i do know what you mean and i understand. nmd was successful for me----I asked my doctor for some other options that you could use so hang in there.
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NMDGRP
replied on August 19th, 2008
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Consumers need to be aware that LVI is NOT a SCHOOL. LVI charges dentists a fee to advertise on the various LVI websites. More importantly, consumers need to be aware that dentist that have attended seminars at LVI pay for the right to advertise as "LVI Graduate" "LVI trained" "LVI Preferred" etc.. Each LVI designation SOLD to dentists reflects various dollar amounts PAID. There is not one LVI designation that reflects competency in dentistry.

Any dentist claiming to be a "Graduate" in NMD from LVI and does NOT in turn disclose to the patient that LVI sells continuing education seminars and is NOT a School is deceiving the patient. January 1, 2007, the State of Colorado was concerned enough with dentist advertising as "LVI Graduates" that the State instituted a law making it illegal for Colorado dentist to advertise as a "LVI Graduate" and NOT include the fact that LVI is NOT an accredited institution.

I hope this entry helps highlight the danger patients face when they put their trust in a Dentist advertising as a "Neuromuscular Dentist." There is not such dental specialty.
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highwaycc
replied on August 22nd, 2008
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Lvi dentists
This information is all a bit sobering. I have been undergoing treatment from an LVI dentist for a year now & am still in a great amount of pain. From what first seemed like a cure-all I am back at square one with something else supposedly wrong with me. I still have hope though. Without that, what is there?
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lovemyface
replied on January 27th, 2009
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LVI Neuromuscular Dentistry
SCAM! An expensive and painful lesson. Don't do it. Been there! It only leads to the dentist making money off of you by telling you that you need all kinds of cosmetic dentistry from crowns, veneers, orthodontics and even full mouth reconstruction so that you end up paying thousands of dollars more of your money just to keep your mouth in the new neuromuscular position (Phase II treatment). If you don't do it then your stuck wearing the repositioning orthotic permanantly or go through excrutiating face pain and let your muscles go back to their habitual state. Not only is it physical pain but also a real pain in the pocketbook at a tune of anywhere between $5000 to $6000 for Phase I treatment.
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NonNtt
replied on February 2nd, 2009
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NMD Is Very Expensive
$60-70k for full mouth restoration after phase 1 is completed. It works, but you'll have 100% veneering when it is all completed.
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ruminsondds
replied on February 4th, 2009
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LVI Dentist SCAM
This is not a scam, it is very real treatment and if done properly can give tremendous relief. No one needs teeth, there is no need to go on to further treatment and if you are having pain reverting to your habitual bite, it means that you had issues with your bite and TMJ originally. Yes and orthotic, even removable can cause permanent changes in the bite because bones and joints remodel and muscles have memory.
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lovemyface
replied on March 10th, 2009
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LVI neuromuscular dentistry
It's a marketing ploy to make the dentist wealthy by doing cosmetic dentistry. If the dentist who is doing the work is mainly a cosmetic makeover dentist then I would seriously think twice about the treatment. Once your bite has changed it means that you have to rebuild your entire mouth. Because I've been there and would like to share my experience with everyone, I would seriously suggest getting more than one opinion from reputable sources. I had numerous consultations, all of which did not think this was the correct route to travel. I did my homework as each and everyone of you should do before starting this treatment. If you have a TMJ issue then you should consult with a TMJ specialist who is a dentist and a physican. A good place to start is with an oral or maxiofacial surgeon. Good Luck!
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jb007
replied on March 18th, 2009
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TMJ and LVI
LVI is a post graduate dental education center, it is a school for post graduate education. LVI is recognized by the ADA CERP and the AGD for post graduate continuing education. There are 9000 LVI alumni, from many country (US, Canada, Australia, etc)
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ItsAllConnected
replied on March 18th, 2009
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LVI and CMCD
LVI is a post graduate education center. The course offered to staff and dentists run a wide gamet; from restorative care, to craniomandibular cervical disorders, to sleep breathing disorders, and on to basic sciences and functional orthodontics. With thousands of progressive dentists, LVI continues to measure and confirm data in an effort to verify theories and bring the science of dental care to a higher degree of accuracy and a better level of care for all patients.
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