I sympathize with your problem. I have been battling bad breath for years. It is something I had to catch on to after countless people rubbing their noses when I talk, backing away, and making hurtful jokes. This problem destroyed my self-esteem and confidence. I actually contemplated suicide because I felt I was punished with a plague. It is like being trapped inside of yourself. I've searched the internet endlessly because it is too embarrassing to talk to the few friends I do have. They've never approached me openly, but I know understand why everyone has always claimed to be hot and turned on the a/c full blast if I was riding in the car, or decided to purchase a new air freshner and hang it as soon as I sat in the front seat, and casually leave gum in the center console. It is a humiliating experience. I tried baking soda/sea-salt, and hydrogen peroxide gargles, grapefruit seed extract gargles, brushing with vegetable glycerine, brushing with acidolphilus pills and taking acidolphilus, brushing with baking soda and cayenne pepper, therabreath gargle and toothpaste, breath rx toothpaste and mouthwash, listerine toothpaste and mouthwash, Dr. Tichenor's toothpaste and mouthwash, oil pulling, Closys, Smartmouth, cepacol, peroxyl, peppermint oil gargles, peppermint tea, antibacterial gum, antifungals, gentian violet, brushing with ivory soap!!!!! You name it, I've tried it, and the wretched breath persisted! I am an attractive woman... I'm divorced, and I wonder whether my breath was a part of the reason my ex cheated on me? I don't know how long I've had this problem! I would like to meet a nice man, be able to talk to someone with confidence when I am approached. Now, I cower when a man flirts with me. It is horrifying to recall the many times I would talk to a guy in the past, before I knew of this problem. I could literally see their facial expressions change to disgust as soon as I began to talk when they approached me! I've quit good jobs because I couldn't bear being the brunt of jokes daily.. Co-workers would heckel and pass snide remarks in my present, making me feel so disgusting, nasty, and vile that my job performance was sub-par. It's hard to get promotions, even when you do your job well because no one wants to put a person with fecal mouth in the spotlight to represent a company. Especially when it entails communicating with high power clients. I've become a hermit because I feel absolutely powerless to this issue. I try a potential remedy in hopes of overcoming this misery, only to find it ineffective when I read the facial expression of others after I speak. I wish I had the guts to ask someone I trust, but I am too embarrassed. My problem is tonsil stones and a constantly white tongue! I have gotten the stones under control with a waterpik. I have become very familiar with the nooks and crannies in my tonsils. I know where they hide, I can feel them as well. I was horrified by the stench of these putrid little sh**balls when I first blasted them out. I learned of them by chance after searching the net for possible causes of yuck mouth. I looked at my tonsils to find that they have deep pockets and grooves. This is an ideal place for stank to grow. I could not see them from just looking, but when I lifted the folds of skin over my tonsils, OMG!!! Balls, and balls of what looked like a white cottage cheese substance! I started with picking them out with my fingers. The SMELL.. The best way to put it is the patoot of the devil! I knew that I had a serious problem, and I immediately understood why people would turn their heads, cover their noses, and just steer clear of me. I became obsessed with getting those buggers out! I came to find that they were not only on top of the folds, but I got a booklight and a q-tip... All of those nooks and crannies were stuffed with the stink bombs! Luckily I have literally no gag reflex, I got a waterpik, maneuvered it in everyway possible and got so much of the stinky crud out on the first time. The thing is that they come back, never as bad as the first time, but I think diet plays a role in them growing. One thing I learned to cut out immediately in research on the net is dairy. I am thinking alcohol might have a link to them as well because I used to drink a lot. Whenever I drank or ate dairy, my mouth would smell more like butt and I would have a host of new little friends in my tonsils. I noticed my tongue growing white in 2007, but I'm thinking that the breath was a problem before then for comments I'd received. This is when I started to become more aware of my mouth because I thought I had a great oral hygeine routine before then. I brushed and used mouthwash... I didn't floss everynight back then, but pretty regularly. My tongue went from a white carpet slowly growing at the back to absolutely completely white shag carpet. I thought it was thrush. I've had antifungals, antibiotics, and I've even stained everything with gential violet... The nasty tongue remained..... So, last night, I went back onto the net, desperate to find something new.. It seems that I've tried everything already online with exception to the mouthwashes prescribed for periodontal disease. I am scared to look into it because I've read so many posts from people who claim that it's altered their tastebuds permanently or made the problem worse. So, I'm thinking... The only way to kick this problem is to get to the root of the issue. When I first noticed the stank growing on my tongue, it was right after a miscarriage. Maybe the change in my hormones had accelerated what I think was a problem beforehand. I had braces during that time. My initial treatment period was to be 2 1/2 years. I'd finished paying for my braces before a huge tragedy which caused me to relocate. If I'd transferred my contract to a new orthodontist, I would have had to sign a new contract and pay another $5500.00. Since I had already completed my treatment, I remained with my existing orthodontist and visited him when I could for adjustments, but the braces were on for a total of 5 years because I could not see him as regularly as I should have for living out of state. I thought I was maintaining good oral hygeine at that time, I did not have any complaints for bad breath or comments from my dentist and orthodontist, but I think this time period was setting the stage for the misery I have experienced from the time I had my braces removed until now. I think bacteria was building up deep in my gums, tongue, and tonsils. The plaque and bacteria is probably what caused all of those tonsil stones. I was thinking my mouth was clean. Though I was spending money on all of these products, it was still smelly and nasty! Look at your tongue, if you still have tonsils, check them out! If you can take it, don't be afraid to take a light and a q-tip. Get close in the mirror, lift up those folds around the tonsils, lift up any nooks and crannies that you might have. Since my tongue went completely white, I concluded that I developed tongue plaque b/c of a bacterial overgrowth. My gums were changing as well. A couple of nights ago, I found an article on tongue plaque. Someone left a comment advising to scrape the tongue like you've never done before for about 30 mins straight, then brush the tongue in deep circles for about 20 mins. I can say that this is the first time I've seen my tongue pink in years! I was starting to think I had oral cancer b/c I used to smoke a lot. It seems that I have not been cleaning my tongue properly, even when I already owned 3 different tongue cleaners! You got to get down and dirty with that tongue! I wasn't afraid of hurting it because the stank breath has been hurting me! The gunk, mucus, uggh! After I scaped really good, I took a round tongue brush and went to work! I think this gets all of the bacteria from deep under the surface!I can't say it's a cure because I haven't tested... Ya know, the facial expressions of others, but my mouth feels and looks 500% cleaner. I will make this a part of my daily and nightly routine. Please try it and let me know if it helps. I hope it does. I am open to chat about this problem because I know how it feels! I've heard that pure tea tree oil and pure oregano oil diluted with water as a gargle is good too. I will try it and follow-up.